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factmachine
20 Jun 17 06:54
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IF RUMORS ARE TO BE BELIEVED,THE FRB REPRESENTATIVES IN THE FORTHCOMING COURT CASE WITH THE JOCKEY CLUB ARE "CONSIDERING" AN OUT OF COURT SETTLEMENT WITH JOCKEY CLUB RACECOURSES DESPITE HAVING THEM WELL AND TRULY BENT OVER A BARREL,ONCE AGAIN SELF INTEREST SEEMS TO BE AT THE FORE,HOPE THE RUMORS ARE WRONG BUT SOME HOW I DOUBT IT!

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By:
lumponlarge
When: 20 Jun 17 07:01
nobody cares ... have a look in the newpapers ... there are worse things happening.
By:
factmachine
When: 20 Jun 17 07:08
AGREED BUT TRUST ME,THEY DO! Sad
By:
adge
When: 20 Jun 17 11:43
been known for three months , factmachine.  just from me alone i have contributed £1200 towards this too., without my agreed permission i might add.
By:
democrat
When: 20 Jun 17 13:10
Did the US Open cover it adge ? Wink
By:
adge
When: 20 Jun 17 13:18
ye, democrat , and next years too
By:
democrat
When: 20 Jun 17 13:31
My goodness I trust you sent Brooks something to show your appreciation !!! 'And next year' ???? Are these court cases going to be an annual event then ? Aaaagh !! Any news on the S&F front ? Don't be late Sunday !!!
By:
adge
When: 20 Jun 17 14:20
you don't think it's all in one year surely
S/F moving slowly ...but moving.....at least roger lumped on pakistan in the cricket at 18
By:
democrat
When: 20 Jun 17 14:50
Crumbs that must've been when W G Grace was still playing !! How old is Roger now ? LaughLaugh
By:
adge
When: 20 Jun 17 23:28
if factmachines sources are remotely correct where does that leave the credibility of the FRB.?
By:
adge
When: 21 Jun 17 09:04
and now i hear that as well as spending 36k of our data money per annum on their own salaries they have employed a consultant mouthpiece at a rumoured 100k per year.
putting two and two together this maybe the source / reason for this change in direction [ rumoured climb down ].
it may all end as just rumour but the continuous spending of OUR funds is not appreciated by the majority i'm sure.
By:
democrat
When: 21 Jun 17 12:28
What does the FRB constitution say adge ?
By:
factmachine
When: 21 Jun 17 12:30
ADGE,I FIND IT AMAZING THAT YOUR COMPLAINING ABOUT "OUR FUNDS" BEING SPENT ON LEGAL ACTION AGAINST A GROUP OF GREEDY SELF INTERESTED BAND OF "BOOKMAKERS" THAT YOU AND THE NORTHERN ARE BACKING LaughLaughLaugh(YOU COULDNT MAKE THIS STUFF UP) ALL THE ORGANISATIONS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING THE INTERESTS OF ALL ONCOURSE BOOKMAKERS REPRESENT THE TOP TEN PERCENT(FACT),IF THE FRB DONT GO AFTER JC AND THE COURTYARD MOB IN COURT AND INDIVIDUALLY,THEIR LEGITIMACY HAS TO BE CHALLENGED!
By:
Trusty
When: 21 Jun 17 12:37
Sooner oncourse bookmakers go, the better imo. No money laundering, no security risks, no ridiculous over-rounds, none of this whinging, no over charging by ATMs at the course for CASH. All courses should have strong free public wifi and we can all bet on the machine on our phones ........ easy really. More room in the enclosures for paying customers then rather than parasites.
By:
democrat
When: 21 Jun 17 12:38
And what form would 'the challenge' take FACT ?
By:
factmachine
When: 21 Jun 17 12:44
WHATEVER IT TAKES,THE SELF INTEREST HAS NOW BEYOND A JOKE! TRUSTY ITS QUITE OBVIOUS YOUVE NEVER SET FOOT ON A RACECOURSE!
By:
democrat
When: 21 Jun 17 12:49
Trusty failed to mention 'closure of the Tote' as part of his model Crazy. Sorry FACT 'whatever it takes' does not fit the bill !
By:
factmachine
When: 21 Jun 17 12:50
WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST DEM ??????????
By:
Trusty
When: 21 Jun 17 12:54
Yep, I can see fully automated betting which you can place on touch screens using a personal dongle. Tote could also automate or be done away with. Frankly the oncourse bookmaker hasn't taken any decent bets for years, the markets are now fully mature hours before race-time and instead of the course looking to mix it up, they meekly go with the already formed pricing. Then all the agents who take 8/1 bets and lay off at 11/1 etc etc are just vermin.

Please explain to me what value oncourse bookmakers add?
By:
democrat
When: 21 Jun 17 12:56
It's your idea/recommendation FACT hence the original question.
By:
factmachine
When: 21 Jun 17 13:02
DEMOCRAT DO YOU EVER GET OFF THAT FENCE????? TRUSTY "THE MARKETS ARE NOW FULLY MATURE HOURS BEFORE RACE TIME"LaughLaughLaughLaugh TRY PUTTING £100 ON ANYTHING AT UTTOXETER TO WIN ON THIS SITE NOW,OR TRY AND GET A £20 PLACE BET ON ANYTHING,GOOD LUCK,LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
factmachine
When: 21 Jun 17 13:06
DEMOCRAT,CAN YOU NAME ONE ONCOURSE BOOKMAKING ORGANISATION THAT REPRESENTS ALL ITS MEMBERS?????? GO ON BE A DEVIL Shocked
By:
factmachine
When: 21 Jun 17 13:11
IF THE RUMORS ARE TRUE REGARDING THE FRB BETRAYAL OF ITS MEMBERS IT WILL BE A CLOSE SECOND TO THE NORTHERNS BACKING OF THE COURTYARD SEVEN!
By:
democrat
When: 21 Jun 17 13:19
The good news is FACT you seem to be fully restored to your 'provocative best' as proved by this thread. Welcome back. Bookmaking organisations represent all their members but perhaps not in the way ALL would want ! On obvious, significant issues especially those involving the use of members' money there should/must be a preceding process of consultation to ascertain the majority view before action is taken  - but we've been here before !!!!
By:
adge
When: 21 Jun 17 13:19
to be clear here , in what way are the BRBA backing the courtyard seven ?
By:
factmachine
When: 21 Jun 17 13:33
LETS START WITH ALLOWING THEM MEMBERSHIP!
By:
factmachine
When: 21 Jun 17 13:36
DEMOCRAT "BOOKMAKING ORGANISATION REPRESENT ALL THEIR MEMBERS"Crazy SERIOUSLY!!!!!
By:
adge
When: 21 Jun 17 13:38
equally
By:
democrat
When: 21 Jun 17 13:53
Read post in entirety FACT - phrases taken out of context can have a distorted meaning !! You definitely are back to your old self !!Whoops
By:
factmachine
When: 21 Jun 17 14:42
AS ARE YOU DEMOCRAT,AS STATED BEFORE YOU MIST YOUR VOCATION AS A POLITICIAN,WHEN YOU DO GET OFF THE FENCE DONT FORGET TO REMOVE THE SPLINTERSWink
By:
adge
When: 21 Jun 17 14:57
don't forget that you are also a member of the BRBA , fact.
now , back to your opening post...if what you say is correct , should all directors of the FRB tender their resignation ?
By:
democrat
When: 21 Jun 17 15:33
'Mist your vocation' ??? I haven't the foggiest what you are on about FACT Confused
By:
factmachine
When: 21 Jun 17 18:00
I AM ADGE AND LIKE THE MAJORITY ITS FOR THE INSURANCE Shocked ,AS FOR THE FRB IF THE RUMORS COME TO FRUITION THEN JUST LIKE THE DIRECTORS OF THE NORTHERN,A MASS CLEAR OUT IS NEEDED IMO.DRAIN THE SWAMP!
By:
factmachine
When: 21 Jun 17 18:02
A QUESTION FOR YOU ADGE,DO YOU CONDONE WHAT THE COURTYARD SEVEN HAVE DONE? ALSO WHY AND HOW ARE THEY STILL MEMBERS OF THE NORTHERN OR WHATEVER YOU CALL YOURSELF NOW?????
By:
adge
When: 21 Jun 17 23:55
sorry , been to ripon.
I don't condone what two , possibly three  did on the quiet at the very beginning with under the counter agreements with JCR. I feel the other four were swept along by the tide.
should they be members of the then NBPA...in this world they are innocent until found guilty , not for the association to pre judge , bar or expel.
and yes I have always said that a legal challenge had to go to court but not with totally unlimited funding
By:
factmachine
When: 22 Jun 17 12:14
INTERESTING USE OF WORDS "SWEPT ALONG BY THE TIDE"LaughLaughLaugh NOTHING TO DO WITH GREED OR TOTAL DISREGARD FOR FELLOW ONCOURSE BOOKMAKERS REGARDING THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR ACTIONS THEN! YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO THAT IF THIS GOES TO COURT THEY WILL BE FOUND OUT,WILL YOU PLEASE GIVE ASSURANCES TO MEMBERS OF ALL BOOKMAKING ORGANISATIONS THAT IF THEY ARE FOUND GUILTY THEY WILL BE REMOVED FROM OUR ORGANISATION?
By:
factmachine
When: 22 Jun 17 14:26
MIND YOU,YOU WONT BE IN A POSITION TO REMOVE THEM AS THE WHOLE BOARD OF OUR ORGANISATION WILL SURELY HAVE BEEN REMOVED OR HANDED IN THEIR RESIGNATION!ShockedHappy
By:
factmachine
When: 22 Jun 17 18:50
LIKEWISE THE FRB IF THEY DO THE DIRTY!
By:
factmachine
When: 25 Jun 17 20:09
JOCKEY CLUB RACECOURSES CAN NOT WIN THIS COURT CASE,ONLY THE FRB CAN SNATCH DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY THROUGH THE GREED OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT REPRESENTING THEIR MEMBERS INTERESTS BUT THEIR OWN!
By:
adge
When: 26 Jun 17 12:44
with £560,000 plus of OUR data money going down the plug hole !!!
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