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A fascinating article in the Telgraph wot I read thoroughly this morning. I believe Hughie and it could be, as was said, someone stirring up the drugs issue, or an angry ex employee. Could possibly be a current member of staff. It is ridiculous that trainers stables are not kept secure.
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It's his responsibility though Slicer...
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shirley Jeremy Kyle could sort this one out
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whats the story
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think there's a load of doping in racing that's swept under the carpet
no idea if Hughie Morrison is guilty or not, he comes across on the TV as a good egg so based on that you'd say he's not guilty but who knows I'm very suspicious of some of the top trainers. There's a well known American trainer who sends these horses to Royal Ascot every year who look like muscle builders. the media fawn over him and until that changes there will continue to be rules broken in racing. |
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Sometimes people do things to keep up with the game(Sharapova),just saying.
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If there's a feeling everyone else is doing it,,, then it must get very tempting.
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i believe him but all others came clean and this one was pulled out for a routine test and tested positive first time?
something doesnt add up |
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Bus- yes- of course he must carry the can. J. Kyle couldn't sort out a bag of liquorice allsorts!
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For those wot don't make enough on hear to buy the Telegraph:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/racing/2017/05/17/top-trainer-hughie-morrison-offers-10000-clear-name-claims-foul/ |
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I think his Posh Accent might just save his Skin.
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Not exactly journalism at his finest from oily Marcus.
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slicer I was alluding to a lie detector test
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Let's face it none of us have a clue what the real truth is here.
You can't have a defence based merely on 'I know nothing, someone must have got to it'. |
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Which is why he has to go Striding...
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The BHA have let numerous trainers off with the defence of we don't know how it got into the system. Mostly £1k fines. Might be different with a steroid.
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This one is rather unusual. This was a 4yo 50's rated filly of virtually no account; he'd be hardly trying to win with her, and losing was likely/easy. There were no unusual betting patterns.
BHA seem to have reacted to the 14th January Wolverhampton post race positive test by quickly arranging a "dawn raid" on Morrison's yard on February 3rd, nearly THREE WEEKS later. Quick off the mark these BHA Chaps.  . Anyway all horses were "clean" including said filly. It was then that Morrison was informed of the Jan 14th positive test, although he was not informed of the banned substance. He found this out himself, with the help of an American toxicologist. Much more to come on this one, I think |
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Do you not think the 3 weeks later might have been deliberate? If a trainer was surprised by a random test he might have cleared the decks for an immediate visit. Leaving it 3 weeks... false sense of security?
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Also presumably post race tests take a while to come through, so once you haven't visited immediately it's all a bit academic when you do go.
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The horse finished last didn't it. Hardly an enhanced performance.
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He did not know the outcome of the Wolverhampton test until the Feb dawn raid. If they had an example of one of his horses testing positive, why not go in straight away to see if there were others. We know that by the time of the Feb visit the filly was clean and so presumably were any others, as evidenced by the 100% clean result.
For what it is worth I am pretty certain he is innocent, whether he will be found so, is another matter entirely. |
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Yes but if he had doped her he would know she'd test positive.
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and she (and others) would be more likely to test positive if the "dawn raid" had been earlier. It does not take three weeks to identify a positive sample and then arrange a dawn raid.
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I know that's why I said it might have been a deliberate move to let him think it hadn't failed a test. Anyway GL!
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I take your point Fear, but I am fearful that they are not that sophisticated
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Haha you could well be right.
Another thing for us to remember, I suppose, is this a spoon fed story from Morrison to Armatyge, so who knows if all the "facts" are correct? |
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Well, of course everything we have thus far emanates from Morrison himself, as the BHA are shtum on the subject, as is usual with theses cases.
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maybe the horse injected herself.
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Well i think H.Morrison aka 2nd Baron Margadale will get away with a light sentence due to "exceptional circumstances" (don't know what they are though)
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Mick Sturbs - Google is a dangerous thing when you are looking for facts. Had you been drinking?
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The whole issue stinks. And I don't think Morrison is guilty.
There's a hidden agenda here, and the BHA are coming across in a very bad light. |
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Effects of nandrolone phenylpropionate in the horse: (2) general effects in animals undergoing training.
Snow DH, Munro CD, Nimmo MA. Abstract The effect of 11 weekly injections of nandrolone phenylpropionate (400 mg) was investigated by a crossover trial (2 training periods) in 6 Thoroughbred geldings undergoing training. A decrease in body weight and flank measurement occurred only during the first training period and was not modified by the anabolic steroid. Urinary nitrogen excretion was lower in the anabolic treated animals only in the first training period. Neither training nor training plus nandrolone phenylpropionate administration caused any marked alteration in blood biochemistry or haematology. A significant decrease in plasma chloride and increase in haematocrit occurred independent of treatment in the latter, more extensive anaerobic training of both parts of the crossover. No change in urinary pH or specific gravity was found throughout the study. No evidence of improved racing performance due to nandrolone phenylpropionate administration was observed. Behavioural changes attributed to the drug could be detected for at least 6 weeks after the cessation of treatment. Strange.. |
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There's a hidden agenda here, and the BHA are coming across in a very bad light.
Enlighten us, whats the hidden agenda? |
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I don't particularly like HM as he can be very irascible however no way would he have knowingly doped one of his horses.
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To steroid a horse with no potential that finished last in a tinpot race on an All-Weather track beggars belief. I hope the £10k reward will wangle a "friend" of the person/s responsible for this immature and vindictive act to come forward.
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Goodnight.....
Says it all really. Darkness attracts the dark. Someone who judges another without making a mistake themselves. Typical of humanity. |
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The full article is paywalled, so I don't know how they came to determine that this steroid has no effect on "racing performance". Surely they didn't deliberately enter and run these doped-up horses in races?
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Racingqueen 18 May 17 22:55
There's a hidden agenda here, and the BHA are coming across in a very bad light. Enlighten us, whats the hidden agenda? Someone is out to defame the trainer. |
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 .......I Aint Buying That. |