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who was the better jockey??
who was the better jockey??
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Moore couldn't lace their boots.
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You can't all be right.
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Lester, Eddery,Kinane, Murtagh, Cauthen, St.Martin are all better than the OP's three. And thats just from the top of my head.
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SOME JOCKS WERE GOOD ON SOME COURSES AND NOT SO GOOD O N OTHERS ..
Need to learn up and coming young Jocks better .. As some get some stick ON here .. ... Think the game ...???? .......makes jocks ...... BAD .. .. as is required .. ?? .. ALL HAVE RIDDEN SOME CRAP IN THE SADDLE .. .. also agree some had a sort of .... ? ..... BRAIN ..? .......but not too many .. //?? . far too much poor quality racing now .. 7 day week and on it goes .. |
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jamilla14
15 May 17 19:31 Joined: 07 Feb 03 | Topic/replies: 414 | Blogger: jamilla14's blog Theonlywayforward - Nash Rawiller ? Says on Wikipedia he rode in GB. I am guessing he rode in the Shergar Cup. Cannot recall him standing out. His record is there for all to see. But more important is when your stake is down and you need a winner you can rely on NASH to deliver. He is the best by a long way. |
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''He gave it a brilliant ride'' is a comment we often hear.
Yet what did the jockey do if not simply time his run, keep the horse balanced and encourage it to do it's best by whipping it? Which is exactly what the other jockeys in the race had done. That's apart from the ones who were simply out for the gallop or to specifically bring back some place money. They're likely to get labelled with giving the horse a poor ride. |
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Have the horse in the right place at the right time is your answer.
Easier said than done for sure. Look the jock cannot improve the horse but he can give it its best possible chance by being astute. |
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And often is the case where its poor position leaves one reeling .
Not the case with nash .Yes he does fk up but rarely. |
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Nash Rawiller in the same sentence as Kinane, Lester, Murtagh et al.?
You sound like a right mug. |
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Idiot of the highest order.
Get your stats You total balloon. |
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Probably too difficult for an idiot to actually do that.
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But we're not talking about stats, that's not the point of the thread. We're discussing grace, style, temperament and raw ability and you laughably try to justify Nash Rawiller's inclusion into this elite group.
The game's not for you son. |
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The litmus test of course would be to sample one hundred European racegoers and ask each who they would like jocked up (present or past) in a big race if it was their horse. Family Fortunes style.
Very clearly nobody would want Nash Rawiller anywhere near their beast and he'd draw a big fat zero (insert Family Fortunes' buzzing noise at this stage). |
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Well if stats dont account well the game is surly over .
You are taking rubbish as its all about who wins. Thus the stats. |
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Can't see ANY Aussie jockey being in the the top half a dozen or so let alone Rawiler. Surely he wouldn't be of the class of Scobie, Pat Glennon, George Moore or Ron Hutchinson?
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Moore will go down as the best of those 3. Been the best jockey riding in Europe for the last 10-12 years and still only 33. Dettori absolutely brilliant when at the top of his game so 2nd for him.
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Well you experience is noted As fkn useless.
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Have the horse in the right place at the right time is your answer.
Easier said than done for sure. Especially if the horse lacks the pace to do that, or you're drawn badly and other horses are there first. Which comes back to being on the best horse. |
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Look not spending time arguing a simple point .
If you want to win Back the best .And that is for sure Rawiller. |
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Agree, he can be guaranteed to Nash then all to bits
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George Moore was brilliant aboard Royal Palace. Scobie Breasley was Piggot's biggest adversary in the sixties. Hutchinson was an international star whilst Pat Glennon succeeded in Australia before riding for Vincent O'Brien in Ireland and getting the leg up on Sea Bird.
As for this Nash Rawiller, sorry, never heard of him. |
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After Lester(in this country).R.Cochrane,R.Hughes.
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Cockrane had lovely hands but better than Terwilliger? i'm not so sure
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Stats can be very useful if used in the right way. Take Celtic stats this season, not lost a game and chelsea have lost 5. Does this mean Celtic are five times a better team than Chelsea?
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in my time i would say the following - 70s piggot - 80s cauthan - 90s kinane - 20s dettori - last decade no one sticks out like the others did when at top pf their game
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frankie out of those three, excellent from the front and great hands
but i agree with those who say that murtagh and kinane were the best of recent times |
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Piggot 60s, Eddery 70s, Cauthen 80s, Fallon 90s, Dettori 00s, Moore 10s
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Next bests ; Breasley 60s, Carson 70s,Peslier 80s, Kinane 90s, Murtagh 00s, Hughes 10s.
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Hutchingson 60s, Eve St Marten 70s, Steve Caution 80s, Dettori 90s, Mutragh 00s, Nash Terwilliger 10s
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jamilla14 has it about right with both his first and second choices.
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