yorkhill

Needs a steering wheel imo

ruby to the stewards room!!

I didn't play but jeez what a d1ckhead that horse is

Almost did it despite it all.

Think he wouldve won if he'd jumped straighter.

massive engine but does not want to know about horse racing

tried to run out at the last

At least we now know it'll get the Gold Cup trip.

why run him there ? mullins probably had others who could have run and won.

ruby knew he would jump right,why oh why have him at the right hand side of the jump,jockey error cost him the race

ermmm he was jumping to the left

oh and stop taking sh1te as well

next years champion hurdler, ditch the chasing IMO.

Was allowed to drift left at every obstacle without any attempt to correct it.

You mean left

I sayed left innit.

some sh1te being talked here

ted is talking some bsh1t,

Horse has demonstrated on many occassions hes ill @ ease going right handed. Probably seeing if hes up to a King George  but will be shocked if he ever runs him left handed again. leoparstown and Cheltenham from now on

Ruby should have put the race to bed earlier what a ****

dyslexia.com?!!?!  left is left not right!!

was hanging left at aintree (left handed) over hurdles as well under townend

a lot of excuses being put forward for this horse, its got a ton of ability but its a total nutjob that does not want a bar of horse racing imo

I'm interested to know (As I don't) In this situation can a jockey do anything to encourage the horse to jump straight (Stronger handling, adjusting jumping position, a push, a slap, anything?)
As Ruby was a passenger on that and did zero...
Serious question...

Apr 16, 2017 -- 4:16PM, EL11 wrote:

I'm interested to know (As I don't) In this situation can a jockey do anything to encourage the horse to jump straight (Stronger handling, adjusting jumping position, a push, a slap, anything?)As Ruby was a passenger on that and did zero...Serious question...

he has a whip!!!

I agree with Dan Hardcore, think he might have won if he jumped straight.

final fence
Yorkhill makes mistake
Yorkhill nearly ran into the wing
Road To Respect making headway
Road To Respect leads
Yorkhill battling back
Road To Respect all out
Yorkhill making up the ground
Road To Respect digging deep
Yorkhill here he comes....
Yorkhill no - misses out
Road To Respect holds on for a narrow win
Yorkhill good grief
Yorkhill only second

close

is it just me who thinks Ruby could do very little about it? The horse did what he liked, including carting himself to the front early in the piece.

Ruby is a genius and strong but it was like watching Anthony Joshua versus Graham Norton

He could have tried giving it a crack with the whip. That's of course presuming that Rupert could find it..

A difficult ride but why have him so far left, should have angled him in more towards the rail so at least when they jump left its to the middle not the outside of the track.

dan hardcore    16 Apr 17 16:06 
Think he wouldve won if he'd jumped straighter.

think dan has a point here.

Just goes to show how we all see things differently.. For me Ruby wasn't to blame.

Denman (same sire) did something very similar at Punchestown one year with McCoy up...

dan hardcore makes the most sense here   he reckons it might have won if it jumped straighter..  id say not many here think that but a good point all the same..

Looking at it again, going to the last I got the impression the horse thought the race was over and was gonna be eased down as Ruby seemed to go easy on it. Hindsight and all buit if the horse was ridden out at that stage I doubt it would of tried to duck out.

Shud of wipped it.

Yorkhill v Might Bite in a match would be a good watch...

might bite is a saint in comparison with yorkhill

I'm pretty sure Ruby mentioned something about him being a future Gold Cup horse. Would be interesting to hear what he thinks now.

Apr 16, 2017 -- 4:35PM, Diff-rent wrote:

I'm pretty sure Ruby mentioned something about him being a future Gold Cup horse. Would be interesting to hear what he thinks now.

Listening to Geraghty afterwards he thinks that was a better performance than the win at Cheltenham

for ruby to have it in the pozzy he did for the last fence was absolutely pathetic

I'm interested to know (As I don't) In this situation can a jockey do anything to encourage the horse to jump straight (Stronger handling, adjusting jumping position, a push, a slap, anything?)


Simple answer, No.

horses have dif constitutions , think this horse is pretty talented but cant take a lot of racing !

it done the same last year ran in two good races then came unstuck at punch !

26Apr16    Pun NvHG1 44K    2m    Gd/Y    11-12    4/6 btn 12½L Don't Touch It 11-12    4/9F    R Walsh    154    84    136
09Apr16    Ain C1NvHG1 42K    2m4f    Sft    11-4    1/6 by 2¼L Le Prezien 11-4    30/100F    P Townend    156    77    149
16Mar16    Chl C1NvHG1 68K    2m5f    Gd    11-7    1/11 by 1¾L Yanworth 11-7   


same this year     
16Apr17    Fai NvChG1 51K    2m4f    Gd/Y    11-10    2/6 btn nk Road To Respect 11-10    4/7F    R Walsh    164    —    165
16Mar17    Chl C1NvChG1 89K    2m4f    Gd    11-4    1/8 by 1L Top Notch 11-4    6/4F    R Walsh    155    138    164
22Jan17    Leo NvChG3 23K    2m3f    Gd    11-1    1/5 by 1¼L Jett 11-1    exact same as last year won
graded races them each time it has run middle of April back home ,  its game unstuck ! over the top ! needs a rest !

One thing's for sure, he isn't anywhere near as good as the believers think he is. Bookmakers laughing at punters lining up on the cliff edge.

i had one a few weeks ago jumping left,i was wondering if the jocks have some kind of unwritten etiquette,why not put it on the inside rail,with horses on his outside if nothing else your going to inconvenience  the other horses,not talkng about yorkhill in particular or this race

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I'm interested to know (As I don't) In this situation can a jockey do anything to encourage the horse to jump straight (Stronger handling, adjusting jumping position, a push, a slap, anything?)


Simple answer, No.


Simple answer, Yes.

Left to their own devices horses will always run down a fence in order to jump in their stride.

A jockey can adjust a horse's stride length which will help the horse to jump straighter. Doesn't always work.

However, Ruby only sits on horses and is incapable of strong handling. Unfortunately he was brought up driving Rolls Royces and never had a proper apprenticeship riding dogs and pigs. Generally, if a horse doesn't cruise then Ruby is lost and will allow the beast to pull up.

Next time I have to school one you can come & ride loper, Show the other pad jockeys what they're doing wrong then.

paid*

No problem, Gutfeeling.

Good stuff, I assume you'll bring your own saddle, Can provide one if needed, I'll PM you when you're required.

There is still hope yet for him in the Gold Cup at Cheltenham (not King George) as the course is left handle - he won the JLT handsomely, and jumped well apart from the odd one or two. However, I do think there is truth in that he does not take to racing too often kindly - his head needs tweaking.

Sold all my gear.

All Ive got left is my whip!

Did Ruby have one?

Long tongue is it

Don't worry have a nice whip you can use, Pieced 3 old ones together so works like a proper whip not these new air whips so you'll be noticed when using it.

Loper......best comment on Rubys riding style that I have read on here, of course the problem is that Ruby eases all these good horses up at fences instead of riding the horse into them. Just watch McCoy launch and fire his horses at the fences, especially when in with a winning chance, exactly the opposite of Ruby which is why Ruby causes the horses to fall so often. Couldnt possibly agree with your comments more than I do, you are 100% correct. Ruby doesnt throw himself of these horses deliberately, he is just incompetent, but nonetheless it is Rubys laid back riding and his presentation of horses at fences that causes many of these unexpected falls. I doff my cap to you Loper, you are a true purist who understands horses and jockeyship.

Apr 17, 2017 -- 5:09PM, loper wrote:

Joined: 18 Jul 06| Topic/replies: 4,529 | Blogger: gutfeeling's blogI'm interested to know (As I don't) In this situation can a jockey do anything to encourage the horse to jump straight (Stronger handling, adjusting jumping position, a push, a slap, anything?)Simple answer, No.Simple answer, Yes.Left to their own devices horses will always run down a fence in order to jump in their stride.A jockey can adjust a horse's stride length which will help the horse to jump straighter. Doesn't always work.However, Ruby only sits on horses and is incapable of strong handling. Unfortunately he was brought up driving Rolls Royces and never had a proper apprenticeship riding dogs and pigs. Generally, if a horse doesn't cruise then Ruby is lost and will allow the beast to pull up.

so true

remember him riding for j oxx and dundalk racing club ..... thinking........ how do he get these rides.......? Was then told that daddy got him the rides and bollixed him for every one he made a balls off.

Yes very true what Loper stated. I can never remember Ruby carrying a horse over a finishing line with brute strength.