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first gold is mine.......I follow speed figures.............he clocked 186 which is higher than denman KS or SS did and he won easily..........then he won at Aintree clocked a rating of 182 but after he never produced anything even close to that after.......whose yours??
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daggers poxy dawn it was the horse that I had my biggest ever bet on
what did that guy on crimewatch say well I still do
cant stop of to look after the fobt and bingo addicts
have a good day
regards
ronnie
what did that guy on crimewatch say well I still do
cant stop of to look after the fobt and bingo addicts
have a good day
regards
ronnie
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Rhinestone Cowboy
Fantasy Island (flat)
Shibboleth (flat)
Rhinestone Cowboy
Fantasy Island (flat)
Shibboleth (flat)
Monsignor.
Alderbrook could probably have won more with different connections.
Alderbrook could probably have won more with different connections.
mighty moss unfortunately connections thought otherwise with jock on board , i would rode it better myself and i'm serious when i say that , this horse with proper jock would have stuffed istabraq but alas connections knew better
Desert Orchid could have been a good horse with a professional jockey. 
Remember a horse called Boss's Bank, same owner and trainer as Barton Bank. Won two bumpers and was sent off favourite for a novice hurdle but fell early on and was killed.
National Hunt
Red Brook.
Trained by Malcolm Jefferson. Was always well liked at home and won it's bumper by 4 lengths on debut. Followed that up with a hard earned win in it's next bumper. Came out the following season with high hopes and trotted up on it's hurdling debut on horrible ground by a distance. Was found to be injured after that run and never raced again. In such a short space of time, we followed it in all 3 wins having had info from the yard. Just a shame we never got to see how far it could go in the game.
Flat
Bint Allayl.
Beaten by the talented Pipalong on debut at York over 5f. Came back and slammed Speedy James in the National Stakes by 3 1/2 lengths. Then reversed placings with Pipalong in the Queen Mary at Ascot. And then ran in the Lowther at York, steadied in behind, Kinane took a pull and then cruised through to lead a furlong out and pushed it our for an impressive win beating Wannabee Grand by 2 lengths. Was already a star at the end of it's 2 year old career. Could have been anything at 3 years but broke down on the gallops and had to be put down. A sad day for racing and I laminated the front page of the RP the day they reported it had to be put down to put on my bedroom wall. :-(
Red Brook.
Trained by Malcolm Jefferson. Was always well liked at home and won it's bumper by 4 lengths on debut. Followed that up with a hard earned win in it's next bumper. Came out the following season with high hopes and trotted up on it's hurdling debut on horrible ground by a distance. Was found to be injured after that run and never raced again. In such a short space of time, we followed it in all 3 wins having had info from the yard. Just a shame we never got to see how far it could go in the game.
Flat
Bint Allayl.
Beaten by the talented Pipalong on debut at York over 5f. Came back and slammed Speedy James in the National Stakes by 3 1/2 lengths. Then reversed placings with Pipalong in the Queen Mary at Ascot. And then ran in the Lowther at York, steadied in behind, Kinane took a pull and then cruised through to lead a furlong out and pushed it our for an impressive win beating Wannabee Grand by 2 lengths. Was already a star at the end of it's 2 year old career. Could have been anything at 3 years but broke down on the gallops and had to be put down. A sad day for racing and I laminated the front page of the RP the day they reported it had to be put down to put on my bedroom wall. :-(
Shame we never got to see him jump a hurdle!!
Simply Dashing
Oscars Well
Crazy Horse (Len Lungo)
Oscars Well
Crazy Horse (Len Lungo)
Feb 27, 2017 -- 4:26PM, Twoboyz wrote:
Always thought Dato Star might win a champion hurdle
Would have done if it had come up heavy
Jacinth, Timeform stated she only had to turn up to win the 1973 1000 guineas
A two year old from last year, Godolphin's Silver Line, thought he was hugely impressive on his debut at Nottingham, and while expecting him to be a 'susperstar' might have been pushing it, let's just say I expected a couple of Group wins at the very least!
He did place in the Norfolk on his next start and was then 4th in the G2 July Stakes, but failed to win again, winding up rated 'only' 103.
He still holds an Irish Guineas entry, but he won't be going there cuz he's had the unkindest cut of all, but if the gelding op has made a man of him, there's still time for him to belatedly fulfil that early potential!
Editor's Note: Not sure he wants the ground on the quick side.
He did place in the Norfolk on his next start and was then 4th in the G2 July Stakes, but failed to win again, winding up rated 'only' 103.
He still holds an Irish Guineas entry, but he won't be going there cuz he's had the unkindest cut of all, but if the gelding op has made a man of him, there's still time for him to belatedly fulfil that early potential!
Editor's Note: Not sure he wants the ground on the quick side.
Carvills Hill, monster of a horse then went to pot after the infamous Golden Freeze debacle.
mr spock......watched CH this morning on youtube win over 2miles in Ireland as a novice.......tom morgan rode it
rogerthebutler: Excellent call on Crazy Horse. How the hell did even Lungo manage to get it beaten in its first two novices' hurdles?
The horse had everything - stamina, an unreal turn of foot and the ability to cruise clear. That day at the Grand National meeting when it won the 20f handicap hurdle easing down by 7l under top weight from 17 rivals it genuinely was a superstar.
Yet you then look at all the times it was a beaten favourite, or pulled up when A Dobbin got the ride, and you just wonder what might have been.
The horse had everything - stamina, an unreal turn of foot and the ability to cruise clear. That day at the Grand National meeting when it won the 20f handicap hurdle easing down by 7l under top weight from 17 rivals it genuinely was a superstar.
Yet you then look at all the times it was a beaten favourite, or pulled up when A Dobbin got the ride, and you just wonder what might have been.
Maylane, trained by the late, great Alec Stewart.
When he beat Dushyantor at Epson, I was convinced untold riches lay ahead by following him.
Unfortunately, it very quickly went awry !!
When he beat Dushyantor at Epson, I was convinced untold riches lay ahead by following him.
Unfortunately, it very quickly went awry !!
Valirimix on his way to winning The Champion Hurdle when breaking down on the flat.
Lothario A Cecil trained horse that I backed for the Derby but he never ever ran.
Lothario A Cecil trained horse that I backed for the Derby but he never ever ran.
Frankel. Found every weak race possible and was petrified to race beyond his own backyard. Sadly the most over-hyped horse in history.
Anyone remember RODMAN, a Fred Winter novice hurdler?
It won umpteen races in a streak which, needless to say, ended in the Daily Express Triumph Hurdle in the delayed final day of the 1978 Festival.
Can't remember what it may have done after that.
It won umpteen races in a streak which, needless to say, ended in the Daily Express Triumph Hurdle in the delayed final day of the 1978 Festival.
Can't remember what it may have done after that.
In Born Lucky Francome recounts the story of Winter casually enquiring whether he'd stopped Rodman in that Triumph Hurdle. Someone's dentist had told Winter that Francome had been offered 5 grand to stop it, and he felt he ought to ask.
Someone mentioned Arazi above and although it's not one that readily came to my mind he's got to be up there. I suppose you could argue that he was a superstar, as a 2yo, but his failure to train on just proves you cant take anything for granted between 2 and 3.
I would give a mention to Black Jack Ketchum who, although superstar might be stretching it, looked like he might dominate the staying hurdling scene for a few years and then went out like a light.
Crazy horse (again mentioned above) was never imo never going to be a superstar but he's right up there as one of my favourite horses, superb low head carriage and on his day could travel and quicken brilliantly.
I would give a mention to Black Jack Ketchum who, although superstar might be stretching it, looked like he might dominate the staying hurdling scene for a few years and then went out like a light.
Crazy horse (again mentioned above) was never imo never going to be a superstar but he's right up there as one of my favourite horses, superb low head carriage and on his day could travel and quicken brilliantly.
this list could go on for almost infinity
the history of racing is littered with broken dreams
far more don't make it then actually rise to the top
the history of racing is littered with broken dreams
far more don't make it then actually rise to the top
I'll just mention a few off the top of my head;
detroit city, made fav for the champion hurdle, runs like a drain and was never the same after that
tenby: small horse who didn't really train on and got trounced by his stablemate in the derby
forest tiger, hype horse trained by mohammed al-moubarak who got stuffed in his second start
john f kennedy, supposedly aiden's derby horse a couple of years back and turned into a carthorse
carobee; injuries curtailed this potential superstars career
sabrehill looked a potential superstar at the three furlong pole in the juddmonte but then got swallowed by ezzoud and disappeared after that
probably so many others I'm forgetting
detroit city, made fav for the champion hurdle, runs like a drain and was never the same after that
tenby: small horse who didn't really train on and got trounced by his stablemate in the derby
forest tiger, hype horse trained by mohammed al-moubarak who got stuffed in his second start
john f kennedy, supposedly aiden's derby horse a couple of years back and turned into a carthorse
carobee; injuries curtailed this potential superstars career
sabrehill looked a potential superstar at the three furlong pole in the juddmonte but then got swallowed by ezzoud and disappeared after that
probably so many others I'm forgetting
was one that started off in fairly low grade races and looked a world beater without winning , adventially ended up with John Gosden and think it ran in the Arc as a 5yo ,did not really stay 12f but travelled well ,cant rememeber the things name.
was a real eye catcher when it first ran ,looked a non as well and caught plenty attention ,was like a candle to a moth.
was a real eye catcher when it first ran ,looked a non as well and caught plenty attention ,was like a candle to a moth.
Killiney winning the Scilly Isles Chase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfNY7tNKh5g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfNY7tNKh5g
Feb 28, 2017 -- 10:51AM, ladycarla wrote:
Champagne FeverFlorida Pearl
Tough crowd!
Florida Pearl won a Champion Bumper, an RSA, a King George an numerous Irish Hennesys
Maybe harsh but if memory right FP didn't even achieve 50% strike rate of wins 
plus didn't do anything foe my Ante-post voucher for Gold cup 
Used to love see it run even though it frustrated the hell out of me!! Thought it would be a superstar.
plus didn't do anything foe my Ante-post voucher for Gold cup Used to love see it run even though it frustrated the hell out of me!! Thought it would be a superstar.
Kerrera, The Proclamation, Armada, Green Willow for starters....
some great old names on this list, i'l add another......Therealbandit (I even backed it for the Gold Cup one year!!)
Carraig Mor
Liberman
Up Ou That
A few who spring immediately to mind for me.
Liberman
Up Ou That
A few who spring immediately to mind for me.
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