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Shocked surely not?

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By:
Magic__Daps
When: 26 Feb 17 18:53
Another scan tomorrow as injury not as bad as first thought apparently
By:
Trusty
When: 26 Feb 17 18:56
But they were talking about being lucky to get him back for next years race,so surely impossible to be back in 2 weeks time?
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 26 Feb 17 18:56
Colin Tizzard plans to have Thistlecrack scanned again on Tuesday following the injury setback that has curtailed his season.

So dominant in the staying hurdle division last term, the nine-year-old has translated that form to fences, winning the King George VI Chase at Kempton on Boxing Day.

He was beaten by the ill-fated Many Clouds in the Cotswold Chase at Cheltenham, but remained at the head of the Gold Cup betting until suffering a torn tendon.

Tizzard said: "After 36 hours of feeling gutted, I thought 'We'd better move on from this'. It won't be the last one, but we found it early and that's the main thing.

"We are going to scan him again on Tuesday. There was a little tear there, but there is no heat or swelling there now.

"We just want to check again, just to please ourselves really. It is not like he is walking around with his leg in a bandage."

Betfair Exchange report that having been matched at odds of 990.0 following news of his setback, Thistlecrack was trading at 10.0 (9/1) on Sunday evening.

He had been favourite prior to the news and was in fact odds-on between winning the King George and suffering defeat at Cheltenham in January.
By:
Trusty
When: 26 Feb 17 18:57
...and why even risk it at his age?
By:
penzance
When: 26 Feb 17 19:01
990/17 on here.Layed.
8s now!
By:
oneyallbeenwaiting4
When: 26 Feb 17 19:04
some worried layers
By:
1st time poster
When: 26 Feb 17 19:06
his age, the reason for going for gold this season was because he was considered to old to stay in novice company
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 26 Feb 17 19:07
I bet it at 500 to free up liabilities on it, would be amazed if they ran it now though with it being so close to the race especially if it has missed work etc?
By:
maxheadroom
When: 26 Feb 17 19:07
kicking king all over again.
By:
Mr Spock
When: 26 Feb 17 19:09
Might explain the drift on Native River over the last few days.
By:
1st time poster
When: 26 Feb 17 19:14
hope you arnt suggesting this whiter than white stable arnt messing about with the market, Wink
By:
1st time poster
When: 26 Feb 17 19:14
imagine the uproar if this was mullins ,richi etc
By:
Mr Spock
When: 26 Feb 17 19:15
Cant see Tizzard doing that, maybe they just were too pessimistic about it and its no where near as bad as first thought.
By:
Mr Spock
When: 26 Feb 17 19:16
Then again who really knows....
By:
penzance
When: 26 Feb 17 19:21
surely the books must have an idea,
no prices on Odds CH
By:
Magic__Daps
When: 26 Feb 17 19:30
Books have no prices because it was taken out of the market. When Tizzard was asked about it the day after, all he basically said was what the vet told him, he couldn't really say a lot more than what he did (imo).
By:
TheFear
When: 26 Feb 17 20:02
Doesn't this complicate the whole "people are stealing money with injured horses" issue?

Very, very poor from Tizzard in my opinion,,,
By:
KiddyKid
When: 26 Feb 17 20:07
If the first statement of a slight tendon tear is true and is not a misdiagnosis then Thistlecrack will be at home Gold cup day ...they can scan him everyday between now and March 17th it wont make a jot of difference.
By:
The Headmaster
When: 26 Feb 17 20:10
Yeah this isn't a Kicking King or Binocular situation where there was nothing structurally wrong with them.  Horses shouldn't be recovering from tendon issues this quick, if he runs someone has some explaining to do.
By:
spyker
When: 26 Feb 17 20:12
Very, very poor from Tizzard in my opinion,,,

What should he have done then?
By:
TheFear
When: 26 Feb 17 20:14
If you're going to say the gold cup favourite is out make sure you have your story straight, spyker. The Guardian story says there was heat. If it had heat it would be madness to run in the Gold Cup imo. Lay lay lay. 7/2 place if anyone wants it?
By:
KiddyKid
When: 26 Feb 17 20:19
My view is Tizzard is just saying we will scan again on Tuesday to check on progress of the tear...
Not to determine if he can run or not.
I would say Thislecrack hasn't even had a saddle on him since.
By:
dambuster
When: 26 Feb 17 20:24
Surely they won't risk him if he isn't 100%, imagine he runs and he injures himself again.Cry
By:
The Headmaster
When: 26 Feb 17 20:24
Think I agree with you KK..although this bit needs expanding on

"We just want to check again, just to please ourselves really. It is not like he is walking around with his leg in a bandage." Please ourselves about what?

I wish we had some better journalists covering our sport.
By:
dambuster
When: 26 Feb 17 20:31
I don't believe the rumours that he obliterated Cue Card in a gallop this morning, surely that's  b0ll0x
By:
1st time poster
When: 26 Feb 17 20:33
but as to the general public the horse was out one would assume the markets have moved with money from the yard,not on a newspaper report
By:
TheFear
When: 26 Feb 17 20:33
Exactly headmaster. Sunday night or not there should be some clarification.
By:
KiddyKid
When: 26 Feb 17 20:35
Even if its a slight tear/strain of a tendon Thistlecrack will 100% not run.
dambuster= if that were true theres no need for another scan and he would be 6/4 again!
By:
TheFear
When: 26 Feb 17 20:39
Thistlecrack was found to have some heat in a leg on Monday night and Tizzard’s vet confirmed a small tear to a tendon after taking a scan on Tuesday morning. The trainer sounded confident of the nine-year-old recovering in time to race next season but added: “It won’t be ’til Christmas, will it? It’s not as if he’s broken down; it’s just a little tear. But I suppose it’s like being a little bit pregnant.

Unequivocal imo. Is he going to say now there was no heat and the scan was wrong ffs
By:
dambuster
When: 26 Feb 17 20:39
Thats what i mean Kiddy... I still don't think it'll run TBH, No win situation for Tizzard imo
By:
dambuster
When: 26 Feb 17 20:41
Must have missed a few days work already, so couldn't be a 100% on the day
By:
KiddyKid
When: 26 Feb 17 20:42
I think people are reading too much into the follow up scan on Tuesday .
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 26 Feb 17 20:43
Maybe he is a quick healer.
By:
KiddyKid
When: 26 Feb 17 20:43
Tendons... No chance.
By:
TheFear
When: 26 Feb 17 20:47
5/1 to place if anyone wants it Silly


could be 3/1 to win on Tuesday morning
By:
spyker
When: 26 Feb 17 20:47
but as to the general public the horse was out one would assume the markets have moved with money from the yard,not on a newspaper report


Funny thing is I always assume the complete opposite! A few people hear a rumour, stick a couple of quid on at big prices and as more people read the emerging story they put 2+2 together and come up with 17 and the price crumbles. As has been said if the injury is anything like described there is zero chance - even forgetting the missed work and probably changed feed schedule and poss drug use etc - if it does then there should be a very in depth enquiry into the Tizzards!
By:
KiddyKid
When: 26 Feb 17 20:48
Thefear-If the statement is true that you have just listed above Thistlecrack is not running!!
No quick fix fellas for tendons... its rest only!
By:
the bloob
When: 26 Feb 17 21:08
do you think the vet may be the rogue here?
By:
TheFear
When: 26 Feb 17 21:09
kiddykid,,, could drugs mask this injury for a race or not? Hypothetical question.
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