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OliasOfSunhillow
23 Feb 17 17:18
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If you locked 100 chimpanzees in a room for infinity you would eventually get the perfectly designed racing web site. If on the other hand you pull them out after 10 minutes you get what the sporting life now call a racing site. Do the designers know anything about racing and form reading. I do not know where to start with the list of whats wrong with it compared to the old site. If you are not interested in the class of the race or if you want to check the runner comments on horse past profile by spending all day going through each individual race then this is the site for you.

They may have ambitions for charging but it will have to them who pay us. Why didn't they just ask for gods sake

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By:
onlooker
When: 23 Feb 17 18:36
It beggars belief.

The Racing game - in fact the country - is being ruined by KNOW NOTHING techy nerds who think that everybody - like themselves - lives all day long on a smartphone, with a pair of earphones welded to their lugholes.

I will have to stop at that - otherwise I would be typing out what is wrong until midnight. Cry
By:
Micky Finn
When: 23 Feb 17 18:42
Both comments absolutely spot on
By:
windsor knot
When: 23 Feb 17 20:34
i tend to use irishracing.com...free, no silly racing post members s.p. after 9am , quicker than them with full results ...and as virtually all the best horses running in both codes are in ireland , why not ?
By:
oneyallbeenwaiting4
When: 23 Feb 17 20:50
melodramatic onlooker

sportinglifes racecards were **** before today and they remain ****
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 23 Feb 17 20:51
rip video form, making it even harder for punters Cry
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 23 Feb 17 20:58
How do i find todays racecards ?
By:
northanlite
When: 24 Feb 17 08:27
where has all the useful stuff like going reports, NR's & the fixture list gone Sad
By:
dod
When: 24 Feb 17 09:08
Clearly they should have had a link to old site until new  one had problems sorted out this is either incompetence or deliberate take your pick
By:
xmoneyx
When: 24 Feb 17 11:44
racecard

can't see in one screenshot CryDevil
By:
corruptus in extremus
When: 24 Feb 17 11:50
What was a very good site to this crap.If i gave it a 1 out of 10 I'd be kind to it.Sack every one of their tech team
By:
Stow_judge
When: 24 Feb 17 12:25
My databases can no longer strip info from their website. Cry
By:
silverbuck
When: 24 Feb 17 12:48
chimps must have had a bash at the new Racing Post site - dreadful effort
By:
RozelKid
When: 24 Feb 17 12:54
http://www.sportinglive.co.uk/racing
By:
cardifffc
When: 24 Feb 17 12:55
competition between the s\life and the r\post to design the worst website........think its a draw
By:
GWiz
When: 24 Feb 17 13:24
The old website had its faults, but given its free access, was very good indeed with simple navigation, straightfoward layout of cards and a comprehensive database of form stretching back to the 1990s. What it lacked was an appealing homepage with decent photos of the racing action.

The old site remains - for now at least - at the address www.sportinglive.co.uk. A domain registered to Sky UK Limited.
By:
east end boy
When: 24 Feb 17 13:49
Its A disgrace. No click on owners No video form .No search.Not to mention several other loses. How can that be an improvement.Some Arty Farty Student with an art degree let loose no doubt .
By:
madasmcmadammcmad
When: 24 Feb 17 13:51
Which clever dick came up with this new Sporting Life site?It's absolutely terrible to read and use.No "at a glance" view with going past form,last run,who led etc etc.I need to find an alternative coz I can't use this new offering.
By:
saddo
When: 24 Feb 17 14:09
Go away for a few days and come back to this. All my notebook linked to sporting life entries. error error error Cry
By:
layem&payem
When: 24 Feb 17 14:11
The most un user friendly site of all time. Thanks to RoselKid for the old site's address.
By:
oneyallbeenwaiting4
When: 24 Feb 17 14:25
http://chucklawless.com/2015/11/older-people-and-change/
By:
bluff
When: 24 Feb 17 14:43
Agree with everything said on here. The trainer stats- hot trainers 7/14 days was most useful but that has gone. Maybe they will get round to adding some of those useful features but I wont bet on it !
By:
mokegibboni
When: 24 Feb 17 14:46
They've probably come up with a new site that will give them more advertising revenue. People weren't clicking on the adverts often enough, so the old site was probably losing too much money, so was becoming unsustainable to run.

I see some sort of prescription service coming soon (probably have to pay for the 'video form' facility soon).

So the reasons for the change are almost certainly financial.
By:
TiptheOdds
When: 24 Feb 17 15:25
subscription service...

you´re welcome.

...unless you mean a pharmacy, in which case you are perfectly correct.
By:
mokegibboni
When: 24 Feb 17 15:42
TiptheOdds - HAHA - what on earth was I thinking!!! Subscription of course! DOH! Probably was in my mind because I've just ordered my repeat PRESRIPTION on line to my local surgery!

Funny thing is that I went through the post carefully and checked it and still didn't pick the error up!

Deliberate mistake of course to see if you lot are awake! Happy
By:
Tant Pis
When: 24 Feb 17 15:43
Must have asked Fitzgerald and Turner for their input.
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 24 Feb 17 16:07
proscription service imo
By:
oneyallbeenwaiting4
When: 24 Feb 17 16:23
its got nothing to do with money, mobile overtook desktop about 3 years ago and its only going to keep growing, destop wont die obviously but the issue of catering to both has to be dealt with by everyone, not just racing related websites, and responsive designs is the widely accepted current best solution, its not viable for everyone to run 2 separate websites

I dont think sportinglife have done a particularly good job with the website or the way they dropped it on everyone, but im sure they will refine it

im astounded by the response to the racingpost new site, at least they went beta with a link to the old site, and compared to atr and sportinglife they have barely changed anything on the new site, it works great on mobile and its absoltuely fine on desktop

people just moaning for the sake of it, saying if it aint broke etc, well if you tried to use the old sites on mobile you would see that they were broke, even if you dont use mobile you should remember that you are now in the minority

I barely use mobile for anything more than checking results if im out, but I understand why the changes are happening, it has to be done whether you like it or not
By:
Rider
When: 24 Feb 17 16:38
1 site for mobile and 1 for computers, job done
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 24 Feb 17 17:14
Usually the debate is about aesthetics and yes one person delight is anothers horror but in this case we are talking about dreadful functionality. Important nay essential features removed and even when we have time to get down to the aesthetics we still think its a mess
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Feb 17 17:37
mobile overtook desktop about 3 years ago

In what respect?

For putting bets on or studying races?

Someone who works, might study the race on their PC the beforehand, then put their bets on using their mobile while they're away from their PC.

I couldn't imagine trying to study a race properly on a mobile.
Who does that?
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 24 Feb 17 17:43
I have to admit to being an oddity in our house. I am a 60 year old ex University lecturer in Computer Science who programs all my own automated betting procedures as well as bet analysis, so not exactly tech adverse and yet in all my 60 years I have never owned a mobile phone. I am considered something of a dinosaur in our house but I honestly dont feel the need for one.
By:
sparrow
When: 24 Feb 17 18:07
I noticed they have messed up the "Quick Results" page. You used to be able to get all the results from an individual meeting on this page but not anymore.
Mobiles and Tablet use have ruined this site as well it seems.
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 24 Feb 17 18:26
it's hardly moaning for the sake of it. if there's money involved, and bookies are getting an even bigger edge than they already enjoy because people can't study races properly, then that's unacceptable.

And as for mobile overtaking laptop, I'm pretty sure the majority of those who bet online still do via a desktop or laptop device
By:
oneyallbeenwaiting4
When: 24 Feb 17 18:26
In March of 2015, the number of mobile-only users overtook desktop users, according to ComScore. This is a trend that will only become more pronounced over the next 10 years, as both business and personal users shift away from being tethered to desks and instead choose to access the internet any time from anywhere.

Tech giant Intel (disclosure: client) recently announced that it was shifting its focus away from PCs and onto enterprise business needs (servers) and mobile-enabled technologies, or the Internet of Things (IoT). This doesn’t mean the death of PCs and laptops is upon us, but it does signify that for those creating online experiences, more thought needs to be put into the differences between the desktop and mobile experiences.
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 24 Feb 17 18:31
That is hardly a defence for the shambles of a provision they have just hatched at the new site
By:
Smar Tarse
When: 24 Feb 17 18:39
I don't know anyone who studies horse racing form on a mobile phone !

So there are more people using mobiles only, for the likes of twatter and facelook thingamajigs no doubt Crazy
By:
mokegibboni
When: 24 Feb 17 18:44
I DO use an iPAD, but I don't generally use apps on it, but instead use the full websites that I normally access from my desktop. In a lot of cases, the full internet websites are far superior to the sometimes limited info and facilities that you get with apps.
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 24 Feb 17 18:49
I would imagine the mobile market is the more impulsive market and lets face it this is the direction bookmaker sponsored web sites want to go
By:
oneyallbeenwaiting4
When: 24 Feb 17 19:02
im not defending their new site per se, just the decision to make it

I think the new site is pretty standard and fine bar the unnecessarily big racecards, but id never use sportinglife to study form anyway, their data isnt as accurate as racingposts and their formbook have never been as navigable

the graphs and projections do not look good for desktop, mobile is going to heavily dominate the web but big data, analysis, image/video editing etc will save it from dying completely

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