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koikeeper
03 Feb 17 17:24
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ARDEA.... In the form of its life, decent jock, ground no problem....If it gets around i expect it to beat these....
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Report houseofpain February 3, 2017 5:35 PM GMT
which bookies bet on these koi night before.
Report koikeeper February 3, 2017 6:27 PM GMT
All of them!
Report Barton Bank February 3, 2017 6:29 PM GMT
Of course, whether they will lay you a bet is another matter entirely.
Report ko2 February 3, 2017 6:50 PM GMT
if you can get on the nigt before, the bookies think your a mug
Report ko2 February 3, 2017 6:51 PM GMT
if you van get on the night before basically the bookies think your a mug
Report ko2 February 3, 2017 6:51 PM GMT
if you van get on the night before bookies think your a fool
Report ko2 February 3, 2017 6:53 PM GMT
sorry about multiple post and poor spelling , , computer playing up
Report saddo February 3, 2017 8:49 PM GMT
“Ill deeds is doubled with an evil word.”


GL, koi.
Report edingle February 3, 2017 9:36 PM GMT
Won't need any luck with this one. 9/4 going and will go off 6/4 imo
Report mmmalushka February 4, 2017 12:47 AM GMT
Anybody know what the best price this was pre 17.54 ?
Report koikeeper February 4, 2017 7:45 AM GMT
9/4 was the best price i saw..
Report koikeeper February 4, 2017 7:46 AM GMT
whoops, I'm sure skybet went 5/2, sorry
Report koikeeper February 4, 2017 4:04 PM GMT
Disappointed with the ride on Ardea...
Report mark9 February 4, 2017 4:04 PM GMT
another tipped fav beat..great stuff..anymore Confused
Report 1st time poster February 4, 2017 4:06 PM GMT
another moaning post by koi, always someone elses fault moan,moan,moan,never anything positive to say
Report slip5 February 4, 2017 4:06 PM GMT
pillock should have never let galway jack have a easy lead
Report slip5 February 4, 2017 4:07 PM GMT

Feb 4, 2017 -- 4:06PM, 1st time poster wrote:


another moaning post by koi, always someone elses fault moan,moan,moan,never anything positive to say


it was the jockeys fault

Report 1st time poster February 4, 2017 4:07 PM GMT
must be saturday,or hunterchase day koi moaning about jockeys rides
Report liberator of the oppressed February 4, 2017 4:07 PM GMT
Disappointed Koi it was rubbish.
Report koikeeper February 4, 2017 4:08 PM GMT
Laugh....I said I would see you on this thread, so predictable lol
Report koikeeper February 4, 2017 4:08 PM GMT
1st time poster..... very rarely do I blame jocks, never mind, always another day Wink
Report 1st time poster February 4, 2017 4:09 PM GMT
moan
moan
moan
moan
Report koikeeper February 4, 2017 4:09 PM GMT
mark9

you will grasp it one day Wink
Report mark9 February 4, 2017 4:11 PM GMT
if were sh!t ride you must have laid it in running?
Report Magic__Daps February 4, 2017 4:15 PM GMT
1st time poster - clueless stalker (NAP), mark9 - clueless gimp (NB)
Report liberator of the oppressed February 4, 2017 4:16 PM GMT
Both fruities and chums Magic probably didn't see the actual race.
Report holywell February 4, 2017 4:19 PM GMT
Magic,

Mark isn't clueless he's just taking the p1ss.
Report mark9 February 4, 2017 4:20 PM GMT
Wink
Report 1st time poster February 4, 2017 4:27 PM GMT
and if magic took his head out of koi,s arse he,d realise my posts refer to koi,s input on an earlier thread of mine,banter doesnt seem a strong point of magic,koi,etc which is a serious flaw in those taking part in forums, imo ofcourse
Report the dealer February 4, 2017 4:28 PM GMT
' not ,
Report jmdc February 4, 2017 4:32 PM GMT
What koi has failed to grasp is that the NH veterans who spend the last two years of their career in this game are still better than what the ptp field has to offer.  He will always tip an improving pointer to beat these old warriors but nowadays there is not much coming through, bar the Wincanton winner on Thursday.  Where his weakness lies is trying to beat the NH horses who do not incur any penalties and consequently carry the minimum weight.  I believe that Galway Jack was the rightful winner.
Report koikeeper February 4, 2017 4:37 PM GMT
I believe galway jack was a p2per/ hunter...

jmdc  nice to see your input before the race as always Wink
Report Magic__Daps February 4, 2017 4:38 PM GMT
1st time poster 04 Feb 17 16:27
and if magic took his head out of koi,s arse he,d realise my posts refer to koi,s input on an earlier thread of mine,banter doesnt seem a strong point of magic,koi,etc which is a serious flaw in those taking part in forums, imo ofcourse


I know what you are referring to, the point is you never seem to comment on any of his winning selections yet always manage to be one of the first ones on the threads straight after a loser with a sly dig. You are just one sad bitter stalking moaning bellend. Why not just ignore his posts/threads if you detest them so much???

HTH
Report holywell February 4, 2017 4:39 PM GMT
jmdc,

I think koi has shown over the years that there's no one better (that post on this forum) on putting up Hunter Chase winners.
Report GLASGOWCALLING February 4, 2017 4:39 PM GMT
.... talking about AFTERTIMING .... wheres SEETHINGmad. ???   Mischief
Report Magic__Daps February 4, 2017 4:41 PM GMT
... talking about AFTERTIMING .... wheres SEETHINGmad. ???


After a posted loser by koi maybe pillow biting?
Report Barton Bank February 4, 2017 4:44 PM GMT
Am not in any way knocking the bet but I disgree with the criticism of the ride. Ardea is normally held up and the leaders in the Hunter were setting a faster pace than was set in the Towton earlier on the card where better horses finished knackered. I think Joe Wright wasn't to blame and just got beaten by a better horse at the weights. I didn't back Galway Jack but I thought he won on merit.
Report koikeeper February 4, 2017 4:52 PM GMT
Barton, it has been held up and raced up with them in points, but thought today it was far too far back, especially in that ground.
Report Barton Bank February 4, 2017 5:01 PM GMT
Ok, in view of how hard the leaders went will have to agree to disagree. I think if the horse had been as good as the winner he had a perfect set up. He is generally held up nowadays, isn't he. Haven't seen the last two points but taken the running notes in the formbook at face value he has been held up (fair play if that's wrong) and was dropped out for both his Hunter wins. I took it as read he would be held up today.
Report equine flew February 4, 2017 5:56 PM GMT
For a horse that had fallen in its previous races, the winner never missed a beat today and ultimately the good jumping just meant those behind couldn't get to it.  I backed the second, and in hindsight I guess it could have been closer, but they did look to go hard up front.
Report koikeeper February 4, 2017 8:59 PM GMT
Apparently Ardea  was not 100% today and wont run again until they are happy with it, so in hind sight it was a cracking run.
Report metro john February 5, 2017 10:08 AM GMT
Was given a poor tactical ride, the stayer in the race should have closer earlier.
Report koikeeper February 5, 2017 10:14 AM GMT
The horse had been below par all day, ( not himself) but they still decided to run it... I dont think that will happen again.
Report 1st time poster February 5, 2017 10:31 AM GMT
walofs,connections coming out after the race letting it be known they ran a fav on a saturday that had been under the weather all day,and wouldnt run its race, FFS
Report mincer11 February 5, 2017 10:32 AM GMT
The best horse won and he'd beat him every time he met him at those terms.
Classic pointing men syndrome , when fav is beat, its either jockey error or the horse wasnt right. Its never that they picked the wrong one.
The jockey gave it every chance as well, it was within 4 lengths at the 5th last and never ever was the lead unasailable
Report metro john February 5, 2017 10:36 AM GMT
The horse did underperform, and the tactics were wrong, he was not unlucky, just given the wrong ride must have been 10-15 lengths off the pace against suspect non-stayers?
Report mincer11 February 5, 2017 10:39 AM GMT
Its ridden like that every day it runs, what way did you think it was going to be ridden ?
Who says it underperformed ?
Report metro john February 5, 2017 10:50 AM GMT
Here is the video from the third last - https://goo.gl/tw4A19 , rider not heavy with the whip? obviously believing he can pick it up(over-belief) stumbles on landing second last(probably cost a length and half, and again last fence another length or so cost? but this video does not show the easy ride it was given early and the amount of ground a stout stayer was given to make up.I take nothing off the winner, nor do I wish to ridicule the jockey, I have seen much worse.
Report Magic__Daps February 5, 2017 11:14 AM GMT
I really don't know where anyone would get the idea that 1st time poster is a bit of a stalker/obsessed with koi, logs on today and the only thread he posts on is this one and then logs off.


On a note of this race, although it does seem the winner went off pretty quick and the second may have been too far back I think the jock on the winner deserves some credit. He gave the horse a nice breather coming around the turn before the 4th last and then went on again.
Report 1st time poster February 5, 2017 11:19 AM GMT
anymore examples   of connections of a saturday fav coming out post race saying we new it wasnt right was off colour all day but we ran it anyway,ffs
Report koikeeper February 5, 2017 11:20 AM GMT
1st time poster 05 Feb 17 10:31
walofs,connections coming out after the race letting it be known they ran a fav on a saturday that had been under the weather all day,and wouldnt run its race, FFS


They didnt know it wouldnt run its race, but ran it anyway....it wont happen again..no lies, all the truth... you need to grow up!!
Report Magic__Daps February 5, 2017 11:28 AM GMT
Here stalky, stalky, stalky, stalky.....

OBSESSED
Report Barton Bank February 5, 2017 12:51 PM GMT
I still think the horse ran his race yesterday, if he proves to be much better than that in the future then fair play.
Report koikeeper February 5, 2017 12:54 PM GMT
barton, they said he is much better than that run...I think they were gutted it was beat.
Report Barton Bank February 5, 2017 1:04 PM GMT
I take the point but maybe they underestimated the winner or over rated their own horse? Aren't most connections gutted when they have a strong favourite that doesn't win? Not really knocking Ardea, he is a likeable horse and clearly very good in point to point terms. I think he will win another hunter chase on the form he showed last year and on yesterdays form as well. But I wonder if they are clutching at straws to a degree.
Report jmdc February 5, 2017 1:27 PM GMT
Bill Farnsworth just endorsed my point that Wonderful Charm's win was against the spirit of running top class veterans in Hunter Chases.
Report Barton Bank February 5, 2017 1:30 PM GMT
Wonderful Charm isn't even a veteran. He is nine! I think Nicholls has a policy now of getting good horses qualified once they get a bit sour or high in the handicap by simply not running them for a year or two when there isn't anything wrong with them just so they can make the qualifying requirement of not winning too much prize money. But if that is the rule, can you really blame him for doing his best for his owners?
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