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Diff-rent
02 Jan 17 08:18
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Lovely bloke but what has gone wrong.
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Report cacique January 2, 2017 9:32 AM GMT
how many of those 52 were for the green and gold and are not meant to win?

could have an amazing strike rate if u take the non jiggers out
Report geoff m January 2, 2017 10:31 AM GMT
could have an amazing strike rate if u take the non jiggers out   1 out of 1  100%LaughLaughLaugh
Report xmoneyx January 2, 2017 11:28 AM GMT
that's why ITV did a feature New Year's Day Wink
Report iswearitsoath January 2, 2017 12:10 PM GMT
wouldn't worry - the stable often comes back into form around March timeCrazy
Report Ramruma January 2, 2017 12:25 PM GMT
how many of those 52 were for the green and gold and are not meant to win?

could have an amazing strike rate if u take the non jiggers out


Could he? Surely you'd still only have one winner. Unless you took 51 non-triers out.

That said, I'm not sure how much weight I'd put on the original statistic. In December as a whole, Jonjo had 11 winners from 102 runners.
Report Ramruma January 2, 2017 12:27 PM GMT
Apologies to geoff m for taking so long that I missed his 100% post.
Report cacique January 2, 2017 8:55 PM GMT
Was Ramruma the mare a natural blonde too?

Did she end up breeding for juddmonte? Seem to remember a filly out of her around 2002........
Report blackbarn January 2, 2017 9:32 PM GMT
Cacique - she was sold in 2003 by the Fahd Salman stud to John Magnier for 2.1m gns.  She was in foal to Machiavellian; the resultant foal was pretty useless on the racecourse, was sold for 80k and then threw a couple of winners. Her third (of four to race) foal was Flying Cross who won a couple of races and was third in the Irish Leger.
Report cacique January 2, 2017 9:47 PM GMT
The same lad fahd that owned generous and dies in 2001, knew I remembered a foal out of her but juddmonte  must have bought it,

first she seems to be 2003 which is roughly the correct time
Report blackbarn January 2, 2017 10:09 PM GMT
cacique - I only looked at the four that had raced.  Her first foal was Weather Report (2003) who was purchased by Kirsten Rausing Lanwades Stud but was unraced.  I can't find a record of Juddmonte purchasing any of her progeny.

One bit of related news is that a Chestnut Filly yearling out of her was sold on 27th September last year for Euros 225k. Her biggest priced foal.   Mind you, she's by FrankelWink
Report cacique January 2, 2017 10:20 PM GMT
Deffo remember a rat of ramruma in juddmonte then, could have been when fahd died in 01, god knows what happened.

On a lighter note, I hate chestnuts and poor Frankel throws a few, so based on that, I'm out!
Report moondan January 3, 2017 2:36 AM GMT
It happens every season but manages to keep his boss happy.
Report Reynard January 3, 2017 8:17 AM GMT
Never been a yard with a high % of winners / runners ratio
Report casemoney January 3, 2017 1:13 PM GMT
They need to get a few letters in the form lines before they start winning ..
Report duffy January 3, 2017 1:16 PM GMT
I'd be more worried about the stable if they were banging in the winners left right and centre, everything though is going exactly to plan it seems.
Report Diff-rent January 4, 2017 3:05 PM GMT
Very good post  (Duffy) !!!!

It's a real shame as I like Jonjo O'Neill but they just seem to be running very flat at present.
Report AFTERTHOUGHT January 4, 2017 3:17 PM GMT
Whether the stables in form or not you ain't sure how they are going to run (apart from march)
Report Slicer January 4, 2017 3:21 PM GMT
There are only 2 rules regarding gambolling. 1. Never bet on anything that breathes or is under the control of anything that breathes. 2. If you do ignore rule 1, never back or lay any horse from Jonjo's stable. I hope this is of assistance in clarifying the matter.
Report jmdc January 4, 2017 3:21 PM GMT
Spends half the season getting his horses back down the handicap.
Report Dr Crippen January 4, 2017 3:26 PM GMT
^Don't they all?
Report Diff-rent January 7, 2017 3:28 PM GMT
Short price favourite pulled up doesn't bed well for any stable backers. Just keep laying them until they start showing some  improved form would be my advice.
Report flukes January 8, 2017 4:10 PM GMT
Cobolobo pops up at Chepstow, RP forecast 6-1 but Betfair SP 28. A difficult yard to fathom......
Report mcmanus January 8, 2017 4:18 PM GMT
especially when you back a 40/1shot and he does you on the run in ;-(
Report mcmanus January 8, 2017 4:19 PM GMT
frustrating but thats racing
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