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02 Jan 17 08:18
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Lovely bloke but what has gone wrong.

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By:
cacique
When: 02 Jan 17 09:32
how many of those 52 were for the green and gold and are not meant to win?

could have an amazing strike rate if u take the non jiggers out
By:
geoff m
When: 02 Jan 17 10:31
could have an amazing strike rate if u take the non jiggers out   1 out of 1  100%LaughLaughLaugh
By:
xmoneyx
When: 02 Jan 17 11:28
that's why ITV did a feature New Year's Day Wink
By:
iswearitsoath
When: 02 Jan 17 12:10
wouldn't worry - the stable often comes back into form around March timeCrazy
By:
Ramruma
When: 02 Jan 17 12:25
how many of those 52 were for the green and gold and are not meant to win?

could have an amazing strike rate if u take the non jiggers out


Could he? Surely you'd still only have one winner. Unless you took 51 non-triers out.

That said, I'm not sure how much weight I'd put on the original statistic. In December as a whole, Jonjo had 11 winners from 102 runners.
By:
Ramruma
When: 02 Jan 17 12:27
Apologies to geoff m for taking so long that I missed his 100% post.
By:
cacique
When: 02 Jan 17 20:55
Was Ramruma the mare a natural blonde too?

Did she end up breeding for juddmonte? Seem to remember a filly out of her around 2002........
By:
blackbarn
When: 02 Jan 17 21:32
Cacique - she was sold in 2003 by the Fahd Salman stud to John Magnier for 2.1m gns.  She was in foal to Machiavellian; the resultant foal was pretty useless on the racecourse, was sold for 80k and then threw a couple of winners. Her third (of four to race) foal was Flying Cross who won a couple of races and was third in the Irish Leger.
By:
cacique
When: 02 Jan 17 21:47
The same lad fahd that owned generous and dies in 2001, knew I remembered a foal out of her but juddmonte  must have bought it,

first she seems to be 2003 which is roughly the correct time
By:
blackbarn
When: 02 Jan 17 22:09
cacique - I only looked at the four that had raced.  Her first foal was Weather Report (2003) who was purchased by Kirsten Rausing Lanwades Stud but was unraced.  I can't find a record of Juddmonte purchasing any of her progeny.

One bit of related news is that a Chestnut Filly yearling out of her was sold on 27th September last year for Euros 225k. Her biggest priced foal.   Mind you, she's by FrankelWink
By:
cacique
When: 02 Jan 17 22:20
Deffo remember a rat of ramruma in juddmonte then, could have been when fahd died in 01, god knows what happened.

On a lighter note, I hate chestnuts and poor Frankel throws a few, so based on that, I'm out!
By:
moondan
When: 03 Jan 17 02:36
It happens every season but manages to keep his boss happy.
By:
Reynard
When: 03 Jan 17 08:17
Never been a yard with a high % of winners / runners ratio
By:
casemoney
When: 03 Jan 17 13:13
They need to get a few letters in the form lines before they start winning ..
By:
duffy
When: 03 Jan 17 13:16
I'd be more worried about the stable if they were banging in the winners left right and centre, everything though is going exactly to plan it seems.
By:
Diff-rent
When: 04 Jan 17 15:05
Very good post  (Duffy) !!!!

It's a real shame as I like Jonjo O'Neill but they just seem to be running very flat at present.
By:
AFTERTHOUGHT
When: 04 Jan 17 15:17
Whether the stables in form or not you ain't sure how they are going to run (apart from march)
By:
Slicer
When: 04 Jan 17 15:21
There are only 2 rules regarding gambolling. 1. Never bet on anything that breathes or is under the control of anything that breathes. 2. If you do ignore rule 1, never back or lay any horse from Jonjo's stable. I hope this is of assistance in clarifying the matter.
By:
jmdc
When: 04 Jan 17 15:21
Spends half the season getting his horses back down the handicap.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 04 Jan 17 15:26
^Don't they all?
By:
Diff-rent
When: 07 Jan 17 15:28
Short price favourite pulled up doesn't bed well for any stable backers. Just keep laying them until they start showing some  improved form would be my advice.
By:
flukes
When: 08 Jan 17 16:10
Cobolobo pops up at Chepstow, RP forecast 6-1 but Betfair SP 28. A difficult yard to fathom......
By:
mcmanus
When: 08 Jan 17 16:18
especially when you back a 40/1shot and he does you on the run in ;-(
By:
mcmanus
When: 08 Jan 17 16:19
frustrating but thats racing
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