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put £50 on found yesterday and wrote pmu on slip and got paid £320. Shop said the price was 6.4. Where can i check.
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On the PMU's own site (it's in English):
http://horseraces.pmu.fr/results/race/29595 |
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Win dividend 10.60
http://horseraces.pmu.fr/results/date/2016-10-02 |
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You certainly have!
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phoned coral customer care and got told it has been settled correctly. They confirm the pmu price as 6.4. That came from their team leader. have to go to ibas now.
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robbing bas***ds
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Did you ask them to look at the PMU website ?
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iceman,
Sincerely, Good Luck! |
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You're welcome, iceman.
Think nothing of it. |
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asked them to look at pmu but they refused.
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just looked at a few bookmakers results sites - seem to give the SP as 6/1
not sure what the rules say these days - does the fact that you put PMU on the slip entitle you to claim those odds? |
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Sporting Life website......
Betting Breakdown Tote Win €6.40 Tote Place €2.90,€6.00,€2.90 Straight Forecast €126.32 Exacta €136.90 |
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1st (12) 10 Found (IRE) A P O'Brien 4 9-2 R L Moore 6/1
2nd (11) 1¾ 4 Highland Reel (IRE) A P O'Brien 4 9-5 J A Heffernan 20/1 3rd (16) 1½ 8 Order Of St George (IRE) A P O'Brien 4 9-5 L Dettori 14/1 |
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The win dividend of £6.40 was the one paid by the UK Tote, who ran a win and place pool on the Arc. It's also the tote return shown on various sites, such as SportingLife and RacingUK.
The correct PMU return is shown on the Racing Post site. So the issue may be whether Corals rules allow PMU bets, whether Corals employees know the difference (very unlikely), or whether this is just an error caused by the existence of two different Tote pools. I'd suggest you contact the Post news desk and raise it with them, as it's likely to affect more than just one punter. |
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Hi Iceman,
just been reading the rules for Corals, it contains the following extract. "In France, the tote pool betting is known as the Pari Mutuel. For this weekend's Arc meeting, which is being held at Chantilly instead of Longchamp this year, we will not be accepting any PMU bets from Chantilly either online, via mobile, Telephone betting or in shops. However, the UK Tote will be operating the following pools betting for Chantilly on Sunday:" The UK Tote covers the Arc, can't find results on the UK Tote win on the race, but Sporting Life indicates the Tote paid 6.4, thats where Coral may be settling from. UK Tote rather than the PMU. |
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PMU
Simple for €1.00 No Gagnant Placé 10 €10.60 €3.60 04 €7.60 08 €4.80 |
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looking at that I think it should have been settled at SP not UK Tote
in that the rules say no PMU bets |
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corals were betting pmu from france yesterday
trust your uncle ronnie |
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funny how they always settle at the lowest amount in any dispute. I asked an experienced shop manager if i could have pmu prices before placing bet. surely they should honour it if the shop manager accepted the bet?
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if you bet with betfair what are you doing going into a betting shop . was there a market on betfair
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i took the 7-1 at lads,betfair price drifted at the off to about the pmu price
how the sp was 6-1 is beyond me |
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iceman
go back to the shop ask the staff to look at the message on the shops pc regarding pmu then tell them to get on the dog for you regards ronnie |
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ronnie can you explain why you decided to ignore this post and insist on knowing better ?
"In France, the tote pool betting is known as the Pari Mutuel. For this weekend's Arc meeting, which is being held at Chantilly instead of Longchamp this year, we will not be accepting any PMU bets from Chantilly either online, via mobile, Telephone betting or in shops. |
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The quality of betting shop staff is at an all time low. 80% of them, mostly women, haven`t got a clue about betting or sports in general. Glorified till assistants.
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About 5 years ago, (have to admit the name escapes me), a horse was running in Ireland in the next race, basically a trial if it should run
in the next years guineas, the manager did not have a clue of the horse, and took a few mins to find the guineas prices. |
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I tried to get a bet on the Arlington Million. Woman asked me where it was run. "Erm, Arlington"!
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If they don't accept pmu bets he should think himself lucky he has been paid tote odds.They could have said bet taken in error and voided it
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Another won settled my mixed sports accum as a loser when my NFL team (-3) won by 3. Took me half an hour to get through to her that it was a "Push" and rest of bet was up. She phoned head office and came back, "Oh I didn`t know that if it was a draw on handicap bet was void".
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You want to see the palaver in joes when your golfer ties for fourth/fifth place with a few others. Usually not settled by the Wed night and the staff havn't got a clue how to.
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is this an aftertime fred iyo?
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I put bet on in Boyles shop as they have always previously taken French PM bets. I wrote my stake at French PM on docket. The girls in shop could not find payment when I went to collect yesterday. I called their telebetting office who told me dividend was 6.40 which was then confirmed when I collected my winnings which equates to less than 11/2. I thought it was low as was expecting around 10/1 or 11/1 or thereabouts. Out of interest I checked what French PM was in the press today. The RP reported that it was 10.60 or 96/10. ATR website showed that it was 10.60 while the Irish Independent was also 96/10 which is what the French PM was. As already mentioned this 6.40 is a British Tote price NOT the French PM. I rang Boyles about this and initially they said that the RP was wrong. I told informed them that it was not just the RP reporting this price. Anyways they basically said I can take it up with IBAS and that the payout of 6.40 was a trading decision that they would not be changing. There seems to be industry wide skulduggery at play here cutting punters short. Need to get Matt Chapman on the case.
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Need to get proper journalists who actually report all of the fraud that the bookies are running, because that is all it is.
The sad thing is I doubt anyone is surprised anymore with their practices - but whatever you do don't bet anything at 5s that goes off at 4s as you are then treated like a thief. |
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I detest bookmakers but if you dont check the rules then thats not skullduggery.
It is obvious that they dont want wide variations in prices hence the choice of using uk based totes, however if this was stated in their rules there is nothing to see here.Punters requiring PMU should have shopped around to find a firm offering it. |
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Biscar - but as RR says "they were taking bets on the French PMU" and he works for them. So is it just a case of win win for them? If it's a bigger price payout the UK Tote, if it's smaller give the punter his PMU price as requested. Seems like skullduggery to me.
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Boyles were offering French PM. I asked them at the counter and they confirmed. I have previously bet with Boyles at French PM before so certainly not a Johnny come lately chancing my arm. The reason I put bet on there was because PP and local independents including Bar One do not offer odds at French PM. I confirmed with friend who works for Hills that they take French PM but customer must ask for it yet there are reports that they too are paying out at 6.40 not the actual French PM.
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received from central ops yesterday
customers may place PMU-French tote bets on plain slips for todays arc meeting, PMU or French tote must be clearly written on slips otherwise bets will be settled at industry sp's, only win and place bets will be accepted |
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seems like bookmakers a ripping punters off over the pmu payout, looks like a case for paul haigh total respect.
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what is the matter with these companies
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Boyles are fairly disgusting shower of chancers -how can it be a trading decision to pay out at a lower price -I would say what they are trying to do is basically theft.
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WD ronnie, that should sort it. Shame staff can't find this info themselves when a customer first questions a payout tho.
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