SOUTH AFRICAN RACING ATR GUEST JOE

this greyville racing getting on my nerves and yes his tipping is awful

can, could just be me, however I find Greyville a horrid track, and seems and only seems a great track to lay Favs
under the flodlights there.

he puts all the field sometimes in placepot.............must cost him a fortune.................he reckons he makes money ............if he does theres hope for anyone

suppose it is possible, you get a lot of odds pokes beaten over there, however you would need nerves of steel,
and a big funding pot.

doesn't like criticism

So the 1st thing YOU need to know is that SA / HK and Aus is light years ahead when it comes to pool betting. In SA we have % betting, this means that you could work out a Scoop 6 for £12 342 and go to the window and bet £ 10 ands it will print a ticket with your numbers and the % you have of the pool. To some this might appear ludicrous but at that precise moment 2 things occur:

1: the small punter has a chance of catching the Scoop6 and getting a return relative to his lifestyle/spend
2: much more money goes into the pools.

If i begged any of you to do is to just for 1 week boycott bookmaker bets in the UK. Then start betting the tote.

Alien

So the way i process betting is as follows and that is why even when they run 2nd or 3rd i collect.

1: Most bets i take are 80/20 with 80 going to the PLACE market. this i would do with horses mostly 5/1 and under. 
2: If i fancy a horse at lets say 7/1 instead of £500 each way i rather do the following (lets say its number 1):
2:1 £400 wins
2:2 trifecta 1 x f x f (a few times) Float 1 x Field ( a few times) This means it can run 2nd or 3rd
2:3 quartet (1st 4 home in order) 1 x f x f x f
2:4 exactas 1 x f 30 times
2:5 exactas fx 1 10 times
2:6 Trifecta 1 x 2 or 3 choices x field loads of times.

now sometimes believe it or not i win HUGE by catching my "cover" exactas because sometimes they run 50/1 - 7/1 and the exacta pays 400 and i collect 4000 plus the floating trifectas.

not long ago in a race at Flamingo Park i spent R2300 on stuff like above and collected R487 000 now i know the rand is weak compared to our POUND but the return in the form of a unit is astounding.

thanks for the explanation joe

I would say your method would work better in Ireland than in the u.k. as the exactas in the u.k. can be pretty poor even with big price horses .

YES they poor because the pools are small BECAUSE none bets into them because they have been brainwashed by

lucky 15
Yankee and other rubbish bets

Hi Joe,

thanks for your replies and appreciate you always explain that you prefer to bet exotics, where as over here we do not. However what has often
confused me, like a lot of tipsters when they first come on they have a plethora of winners and then they start to dry up.
However, and please believe me when I say I think you are genuine about what you say, just wonder about your contacts. Last year particular,
comes to mind, 2 shorties, looked pretty certain, around 2.5 on the exchange, you gave the words you heard, horse backed into 2.1 then suddenly
you get all the money you wanted on and it continued to drift, I wonder about the contacts.
It reminds me of a time I had a very small share in a horse, I am told the horse was very novicey and would need a few runs. Saw a guy place £50
on it at 10s and 8s, as the race started I looked out for him and mentioned the names horse, he said trainer told him it would win. It came 6/15.
Information can be a dodgy thing.
Anway Joe, as a person I trust you, think you are a good guy to front up here and genuinely hope you have a good punting career. Whatever my comments
are, they maybe right/wrong, never done with my malice. And if you need to chill out, put you tube on, and listen to the music from my username. :).

s.e.m done a runner

didn't think joe was obese.........I am a couple of stone over weight myself........joe likes good food like me...........frankie and bennies is my downfall......joes is probably the savoy

royal academy...........tipping on the tv is a results business and I can tell you joe is no tipster..............gets it wrong most of the time........like most of them do..............don't get me wrong he seems a nice enough person but like all on tv doesn't appreciate criticism

You are an ambassador for a tipping site ( your twitter) are the results to be believed. And how is Leoboana ( apologies if spelt wrong ),
remember after its turf defeat you fancied it next time on the AW, I backed it that day place only, nice return, not sure if I would have
been happy with the ride for a win.

I had 2 bets today. 1 lost however backed Intisara and up for the day, it ran unplaced behind Oklahoma Sky, they ran in the same race the other day,
both came out today and won. I thought Oklahoma seemed a tidy sort, and very quickly turned out from 1st run. Now to the point. Intisara beat Forest Lawn,
who had not run for 452 days, could this horse Forest Lawn be a winner in waiting.

I am NOT an ambassador for a tipping site.

ipuntratings.com is like
timeform.com
racingpost.com
drf.com

it uses over 80 rules to produce ratings in every race. It then chucks out the TOP rated horse every day. There is ZERO human intervention sometimes i agree and sometimes i disagree with the ratings BUT overall i liked the product so i got myself associated.

Lebeoana is well he runs next Monday and should win. His turf start was the correct thing bu his off fore shoe came partially off and bent under his hoof. had it come off he would have run better but in this case he ran with 1 high heel and 3 flat shoes. He was slightly lame after the race.


I backed Oklahoma Sky and now in the 13h55 Bonfire Heart

joe........do you do british placepots??