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By:
Fatlad 1981
When: 04 May 16 10:02
Ask Paul Struthers Devil
By:
longbridge
When: 04 May 16 11:57
Jockeys are banned from betting on horseracing only as far as I'm aware.  There are also rules about them not entering the betting areas of racecourses, I think.
By:
TheFear
When: 04 May 16 12:06
Didn't Graham Bradley go and strike a bet with his silks still on? WAFDCLaugh
By:
rayman
When: 04 May 16 13:29
Does that include trotting and virtual?
By:
geoff m
When: 04 May 16 13:35
Think Bradley got caught red handed @ cartmel.
By:
Oldgit1
When: 04 May 16 17:37
Longbridge:
'Jockeys are banned from betting on horseracing only as far as I'm aware.  There are also rules about them not entering the betting areas of racecourses, I think'

Can they enter Tatts on their days off? I remember seeing one with a group of his friends and giving them advice.
By:
arrested development
When: 04 May 16 18:37
Anyone have a link to the BHA rules on jockeys, trainers, staff and owners rules with regards to betting?
By:
longbridge
When: 05 May 16 12:19
@arrested: PJA guide to the rules for jocks is here. 

http://www.thepja.co.uk/members-info/regulatory/integrity/

I'd be interested to know how far - if at all - they extend to amateur riders.

The authority ought to be the BHA Rules of Racing

http://rules.britishhorseracing.com/Home

but they're not obviously there and I'm not inclined to go digging.

@oldgit: The PJA link above has "A jockey cannot go into the betting during a race meeting."  (there's clearly a word or two missing).  No indication that it only applies if he's riding at that meeting.
By:
ThirdTimeLucky
When: 05 May 16 16:34
I'd be interested to know if (at all) it extends to amateur riders , as I saw one have a bet at the Cheltenham festival this year.
By:
ThirdTimeLucky
When: 05 May 16 16:50
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/feb/21/john-mathias-amateur-jockeys-betting-ban

This answers my own question.
By:
The Headmaster
When: 05 May 16 17:20
PART 5 - GENERAL DUTIES OF RIDERS - (D)30 to (D)57

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53. Betting and betting contacts: professional riders
53.1 This Rule applies to Professional Riders only.
53.2 A Professional Rider must not


53.2.1 bet or lay a horse to lose any race with a Betting Organisation,
53.2.2 instruct another Person to do so, or
53.2.3 receive the whole or part of any proceeds of such a bet or lay.

53.3 A Professional Rider must not


53.3.1 associate on Racecourse Property with a Betting Organisation (or its representative), or
53.3.2 communicate directly or indirectly from such property with such an organisation (or its representative).

53.4 Paragraph 53.3 does not apply to any association or communication by the Professional Rider with the organisation (or representative) which


53.4.1 is part of the normal running of a race meeting (such as prize-giving and meeting sponsors),
53.4.2 is made with the owner of a horse for whom the Professional Rider is declared to ride, or
53.4.3 is expressly contemplated by Schedule (A)5 (information regarded as in the public domain).

53.5 A Professional Rider must not be present in the betting ring during a race meeting unless he can satisfy the Authority or the Stewards that he had good reason to be there.


PART 5 - GENERAL DUTIES OF RIDERS - (D)30 to (D)57

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54. Betting: amateur riders
54.1 This Rule applies to Amateur Riders only.
54.2 An Amateur Rider must not


54.2.1 bet or lay a horse to lose a race with a Betting Organisation in which the Amateur Rider is riding,
54.2.2 instruct another Person to do so, or
54.2.3 receive the whole or part of any proceeds of such a bet or lay.
By:
themightymac
When: 05 May 16 18:23
They don`t gamble, they invest Crazy
By:
cardifffc
When: 05 May 16 18:36
when I used to have info about a sprinter owned by the son of the owner.. he told me the horse is so certain even the jockey is having 500 on it.....it won 7\1...........I put a fiver on itSadSad.......the jockey was one of the top 3 at the time
By:
cardifffc
When: 05 May 16 18:40
it was 9\1 not 7\1........just looked on the r\post
By:
themightymac
When: 05 May 16 19:05
I don`t see why they are not allowed to bet on races they are not riding in.
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