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.... said that the best trial for the Derby is the 2000 Guineas.
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I will have nothing said against him ....
Try as he might even he could not do anything with my delicate front legs .....
Try as he might even he could not do anything with my delicate front legs .....
Standing next to him one day and he was talking about not liking having his horse plastered all over the front page of the life.
If I remember right I think it got beat as well
Magic Flute was the horse.
If I remember right I think it got beat as well
Magic Flute was the horse.
Magic Flute seaside,could that have been the day when the Murless second string Altesse Royale won the 1000 Guineas?
Copied and pasted but a decent little read
"Crepello, foaled in 1954, by Donatello out of Crepuscule, Harsh Thakor"
An extremely handsome though distinctly top-heavy, chestnut colt by Donatello out of Crepuscule. He was bred and owned by Sir Victor Sassoon and trained by Noel Murless at Warren Place, Newmarket. His breeding represented some of the best of Italian, English and French blood. Lester Piggott rated him amongst the top five horse he had ridden.
The tragedy of Crepello was that he had to be taken out of training before he could realise his true potential, but a measure of his greatness can be inferred from the fact that all three of his major triumphs were achieved when circumstances were against him. He was basically bred for stamina but proved to be a very versatile horse. His breeding suggested he would be a two mile stayer rather than a Derby winner.
Training him was, in most respects, easy, but in one respect difficult. There was always the suspicion that one of the tendons in his foreleg would give away, which would end his racing career. Throughout his career Crepello wore bandages on his forelegs, however he always worked well in the morning gallops.
Crepello made his debut as a 2 year old in the Windsor Castle Stakes at Royal Ascot. Here he was just beaten by Fulfer. Lester admitted that he did not press the horse too hard as Noel had told him to be easy with him. This was to save his energy for the more important races.
In the Middle Park Stakes in September, Crepello was beaten into 4th place by high class opposition. The race was won by Pipe and Peace.
Crepello made amends for his previous defeats with a hard won win in the Dewhurst Stakes from Queen's Doutelle. The margin of victory was ¾ of a length.
"He was always a bit lazy", Lester said, "When he got to the front, he never did more than he had to."
For the winter Noel Murless put Crepello away, concentrating on keeping his suspect legs strong.
The following season, Crepello was meticulously trained for the classics. He was given hard gallops on the heath. In these gallops, he raced against top class opponents including two top class 4 year olds. They included Arctic Explorer, who later that year won the King Edward VII Stakes and the Eclipse Stakes.
The colt was deliberately not raced before the 2,000 Guineas. Crepello had the worst draw of all in the 2,000 Guineas,at no.15. At Newmarket horses running the straight Rowley Mile come by preference down what is technically the outer rail of the track. Crepello, drawn furthest away from the stands rails was at a great disadvantage. There were also two delays before the start of the race. One horse bolted on the canter down and three jockeys later were unseated by colliding with the starting tapes.
In the race, Piggott tucked Crepello near the rear of the field.He remained there till the Bushes at which point Lester pushed him. The colt accelerated beautifully but went a bit lazy on hitting the front. In the end he managed to hold off the fast finishing Quorum by half a length. Pipe of Peace finished 3rd, a short head behind Quorum. Lester had solved the problem of the bad draw by coming over to the stands rail. Crepello showed the racing world his guts by staving of such a strong challenge from Pipe of Peace.
Crepello became a scorching hot favourite for the Epsom Derby. Lester rode him in his usual manner tucking him into eighth place. At Tattenham corner, the colt was tucked behind a cluster of horses including Brioche, Chevastrid and Eudaemon. Only 2 furlongs from home, Lester urge him and the colt responded like a truly great horse passing the rest of the field to win by a length and a half.
Crepello had displayed his tremendous acceleration powers. Crepello's timing was 2:35.4 secs, only 1 3/5 of a second behind Mahmoud's record time in 1936.
Ballymoss, who finished second went on to win the Irish Derby, the Eclipse Stakes, the King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Diamond Stakes and the Prix del l'Arc de Triomphe.This was a testimony to Crepello's greatness.
Crepello could well have become a superstar comparing with the likes of Mill Reef and Nijinsky but for his tendon problem. Despite of racing in bandages he put up such a great performance.
Crepello became a strong ante-post favourite for thr King George. He continued to work well at home. However trainer Murless withdrew him from the big race as the going was too heavy. The heavy ground would have adversely affected the great horse whose suspect tendons would not withstand the conditions. This caused immense disappointment to racing fans.
While preparing for the St. Leger Crepello went lame. His tendon had stretched ominously. If stressed, it would have torn. It was a sad end to a great racing career. Crepello was given a handicap of 106 by David Swannel, which placed him on par with Brigadier Gerard and Mill Reef (106). Lester felt the colt would have been unbeaten if it had gone on to race.
Crepello was retired to the Beech House Stud at Cheveley. He sired Busted (winner of the 1967 Eclipse Stakes), and the classic winner filly, Mysterious (1973 Oaks and 1,000 Guineas). Further down the pedigree Crepello was grandsire of Altesse Royale (1971 Oaks and 1,000 Guineas), Ginerva (1972 Oaks), Bustino (1974 St.Leger and 1975 Coronation Cup), and Opace (1984 Irish St.Leger). Crepello's impressive lineage continues into a fourth generation with Pebbles (the 1984 1,000 Guineas and the 1985 Eclipse Stakes winner), and Celeric (winner of the 1997 Gold Cup). He was a powerful influence on the Donatella branch of the Blandford male line.
"Crepello, foaled in 1954, by Donatello out of Crepuscule, Harsh Thakor"
An extremely handsome though distinctly top-heavy, chestnut colt by Donatello out of Crepuscule. He was bred and owned by Sir Victor Sassoon and trained by Noel Murless at Warren Place, Newmarket. His breeding represented some of the best of Italian, English and French blood. Lester Piggott rated him amongst the top five horse he had ridden.
The tragedy of Crepello was that he had to be taken out of training before he could realise his true potential, but a measure of his greatness can be inferred from the fact that all three of his major triumphs were achieved when circumstances were against him. He was basically bred for stamina but proved to be a very versatile horse. His breeding suggested he would be a two mile stayer rather than a Derby winner.
Training him was, in most respects, easy, but in one respect difficult. There was always the suspicion that one of the tendons in his foreleg would give away, which would end his racing career. Throughout his career Crepello wore bandages on his forelegs, however he always worked well in the morning gallops.
Crepello made his debut as a 2 year old in the Windsor Castle Stakes at Royal Ascot. Here he was just beaten by Fulfer. Lester admitted that he did not press the horse too hard as Noel had told him to be easy with him. This was to save his energy for the more important races.
In the Middle Park Stakes in September, Crepello was beaten into 4th place by high class opposition. The race was won by Pipe and Peace.
Crepello made amends for his previous defeats with a hard won win in the Dewhurst Stakes from Queen's Doutelle. The margin of victory was ¾ of a length.
"He was always a bit lazy", Lester said, "When he got to the front, he never did more than he had to."
For the winter Noel Murless put Crepello away, concentrating on keeping his suspect legs strong.
The following season, Crepello was meticulously trained for the classics. He was given hard gallops on the heath. In these gallops, he raced against top class opponents including two top class 4 year olds. They included Arctic Explorer, who later that year won the King Edward VII Stakes and the Eclipse Stakes.
The colt was deliberately not raced before the 2,000 Guineas. Crepello had the worst draw of all in the 2,000 Guineas,at no.15. At Newmarket horses running the straight Rowley Mile come by preference down what is technically the outer rail of the track. Crepello, drawn furthest away from the stands rails was at a great disadvantage. There were also two delays before the start of the race. One horse bolted on the canter down and three jockeys later were unseated by colliding with the starting tapes.
In the race, Piggott tucked Crepello near the rear of the field.He remained there till the Bushes at which point Lester pushed him. The colt accelerated beautifully but went a bit lazy on hitting the front. In the end he managed to hold off the fast finishing Quorum by half a length. Pipe of Peace finished 3rd, a short head behind Quorum. Lester had solved the problem of the bad draw by coming over to the stands rail. Crepello showed the racing world his guts by staving of such a strong challenge from Pipe of Peace.
Crepello became a scorching hot favourite for the Epsom Derby. Lester rode him in his usual manner tucking him into eighth place. At Tattenham corner, the colt was tucked behind a cluster of horses including Brioche, Chevastrid and Eudaemon. Only 2 furlongs from home, Lester urge him and the colt responded like a truly great horse passing the rest of the field to win by a length and a half.
Crepello had displayed his tremendous acceleration powers. Crepello's timing was 2:35.4 secs, only 1 3/5 of a second behind Mahmoud's record time in 1936.
Ballymoss, who finished second went on to win the Irish Derby, the Eclipse Stakes, the King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Diamond Stakes and the Prix del l'Arc de Triomphe.This was a testimony to Crepello's greatness.
Crepello could well have become a superstar comparing with the likes of Mill Reef and Nijinsky but for his tendon problem. Despite of racing in bandages he put up such a great performance.
Crepello became a strong ante-post favourite for thr King George. He continued to work well at home. However trainer Murless withdrew him from the big race as the going was too heavy. The heavy ground would have adversely affected the great horse whose suspect tendons would not withstand the conditions. This caused immense disappointment to racing fans.
While preparing for the St. Leger Crepello went lame. His tendon had stretched ominously. If stressed, it would have torn. It was a sad end to a great racing career. Crepello was given a handicap of 106 by David Swannel, which placed him on par with Brigadier Gerard and Mill Reef (106). Lester felt the colt would have been unbeaten if it had gone on to race.
Crepello was retired to the Beech House Stud at Cheveley. He sired Busted (winner of the 1967 Eclipse Stakes), and the classic winner filly, Mysterious (1973 Oaks and 1,000 Guineas). Further down the pedigree Crepello was grandsire of Altesse Royale (1971 Oaks and 1,000 Guineas), Ginerva (1972 Oaks), Bustino (1974 St.Leger and 1975 Coronation Cup), and Opace (1984 Irish St.Leger). Crepello's impressive lineage continues into a fourth generation with Pebbles (the 1984 1,000 Guineas and the 1985 Eclipse Stakes winner), and Celeric (winner of the 1997 Gold Cup). He was a powerful influence on the Donatella branch of the Blandford male line.
Nice to read about Crepello - his sire and dam both bred winners of both the 1000 Guineas and Ascot Gold Cup, so not totally surprising that he should have that magic blend of speed and stamina. He went off 6/4 fav for the Derby in a field of 22 with the 2nd fav 10/1, and won easily. He was withdrawn overnight from the KG&QE, and was odds-on in the morning papers on the day of the race, which was considered a formality for him.
The piece above was presumably c-and-p'd from the jockeysite.com website, and they appear to have got their info from Robin Oakley's book - 'Britain and Ireland's top 100 racehorses of all time'. They have therefore copied the error that Arctic Explorer was one of the 4yos that was used to test Crepello during his classic year. Well he can't have been, as he was the same age as Crepello.
The piece above was presumably c-and-p'd from the jockeysite.com website, and they appear to have got their info from Robin Oakley's book - 'Britain and Ireland's top 100 racehorses of all time'. They have therefore copied the error that Arctic Explorer was one of the 4yos that was used to test Crepello during his classic year. Well he can't have been, as he was the same age as Crepello.
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Yes it was wow how can you remember that ?
I did my money that day if I remember right
Yes it was wow how can you remember that ?
I did my money that day if I remember right
My dear old father in law had a tremendous treble up that day, Altesse Royale,Winden I think trained by Bill Marshall and Apollo Sixteen all at big prices.
Seem to recall something of a 'talking horse' called Yaroslav in the early 70's. Roberto's Derby?
Just dug out an interesting little snippet on Altesse Royale ... again courtesy of C&P
Altesse Royale was slow to mature, and Murless ran her only once. In October she won a maiden race over six furlongs at Lingfield Park.
On her three-year-old debut, Altesse Royale was moved up to Group Three class for the Nell Gwyn Stakes, a recognised trial race for the 1000 Guineas run over seven furlongs at Newmarket. She finished second to Super Honey, carrying four pounds less than the winner. She was not regarded as a leading contender for the Classic at Newmarket, and Murless's stable jockey, Geoff Lewis, elected to ride the Cheveley Park Stakes winner Magic Flute.Ridden by the leading French jockey Yves Saint-Martin, Altesse Royale started at 25/1 in a field of ten fillies. She took the lead from the start and was never seriously challenged,winning by one and a half lengths from Super Honey with Catherine Wheel third and Magic Flute fourth. Her win gave Murless a fifth success in the race, setting a 20th-century record
Geoff Lewis reclaimed the ride on Altesse Royale when she ran in the Epsom Oaks a month later. She started 6/4 favourite despite some doubts about her stamina: her sister Royal Saint had apparently failed to stay one and a half miles when she was the beaten favourite for the race in 1967.Lewis sent Altesse Royale past her stable companion Maina to take the lead in the straight and the filly drew clear to win by three lengths. the win gave Lewis a notable double, as he had won the Derby on Mill Reef three days earlier.In July she was sent to Ireland to contest the Irish Oaks at the Curragh. She won, but was not impressive in beating the French-trained filly Vincennes by half a length.
Altesse Royale was being prepared for a run in the Prix Vermeille at Longchamp in September when she sustained an injury in training and was retired to stud.
Altesse Royale was slow to mature, and Murless ran her only once. In October she won a maiden race over six furlongs at Lingfield Park.
On her three-year-old debut, Altesse Royale was moved up to Group Three class for the Nell Gwyn Stakes, a recognised trial race for the 1000 Guineas run over seven furlongs at Newmarket. She finished second to Super Honey, carrying four pounds less than the winner. She was not regarded as a leading contender for the Classic at Newmarket, and Murless's stable jockey, Geoff Lewis, elected to ride the Cheveley Park Stakes winner Magic Flute.Ridden by the leading French jockey Yves Saint-Martin, Altesse Royale started at 25/1 in a field of ten fillies. She took the lead from the start and was never seriously challenged,winning by one and a half lengths from Super Honey with Catherine Wheel third and Magic Flute fourth. Her win gave Murless a fifth success in the race, setting a 20th-century record
Geoff Lewis reclaimed the ride on Altesse Royale when she ran in the Epsom Oaks a month later. She started 6/4 favourite despite some doubts about her stamina: her sister Royal Saint had apparently failed to stay one and a half miles when she was the beaten favourite for the race in 1967.Lewis sent Altesse Royale past her stable companion Maina to take the lead in the straight and the filly drew clear to win by three lengths. the win gave Lewis a notable double, as he had won the Derby on Mill Reef three days earlier.In July she was sent to Ireland to contest the Irish Oaks at the Curragh. She won, but was not impressive in beating the French-trained filly Vincennes by half a length.
Altesse Royale was being prepared for a run in the Prix Vermeille at Longchamp in September when she sustained an injury in training and was retired to stud.
Altesse Royale visited the likes of Brigadier Gerard and Mill Reef in her early years at stud but didn't produce anything of note.
The Atlesse Royale mating produced Magnitude, who was owned by Col Hue Williams and went into training with P T Walwyn. Made his debut in the 1977 Acombe on my first visit to York. Tartan Pimpernel won the race, and Julio Mariner also made his debut in the event.If I remember rightly Magnitude was forecast fav in the Life but drifted on the day and finished unplaced. Turned out to be next to useless.
It was victory for the Brigadier in that private battle because I think Imperial Guard actually won a race.
Have to correct jockeysite.com again. Royal Saint was a full sister to Altesse Royale, but she didn't even run in the Oaks. Murless had 3 fillies in the race that year - Fleet, the fav, Pink Gem, and Autumn Melody. Before the race, Murless and George Moore had won all 3 classics, and looked to be on course to win all 5, and there were plenty of big bet running up. But the Murless fillies finished 4th, 7th and 10th, the Oaks went north, and the bets went south.
I'm not sure Yaroslav was all that much of a talking horse, but no doubt a fair amount was expected of him, as he was a half-brother to these 2 sisters. He did win the Washington Singer and Royal Lodge as a 2yo, and chased home Sparkler in the Lockinge as a 4yo, so he wasn't a complete failure, but probably 'just' a Group 2 horse.
Murless's ultimate talking horse was probably Pinturischio, who was favourite for both the 2000 Guineas and Derby before he ever ran. He won the Wood Ditton at 2/5 first time out, but then got nobbled, twice, and never fulfilled the high hopes held for him.
I'm not sure Yaroslav was all that much of a talking horse, but no doubt a fair amount was expected of him, as he was a half-brother to these 2 sisters. He did win the Washington Singer and Royal Lodge as a 2yo, and chased home Sparkler in the Lockinge as a 4yo, so he wasn't a complete failure, but probably 'just' a Group 2 horse.
Murless's ultimate talking horse was probably Pinturischio, who was favourite for both the 2000 Guineas and Derby before he ever ran. He won the Wood Ditton at 2/5 first time out, but then got nobbled, twice, and never fulfilled the high hopes held for him.
No elise, but I'd like to. My dad was a great fan of Noel Murless. My dad was 'just' a betting shop punter, and I remember saying to him as a kid 'why don't you just back all Murless's horses' - but I suppose that would have taken the 'fun' out of it. I don't know what Murless's LSP would have been - I don't think such things were written about in the press then, but it can't have been too shabby.
there are some 2nd hand copies on amazon at about a tenner,it's a bit dearer on ebay
Morning chaps. There is a copy of The Guv'nor currently for sale on EBAY - Buy it now price of £9. Well worth a read by the way.
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