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By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 02 Apr 16 13:53
It's important for people to be proactive here. There may be a few hundred to few thousand directly affected now but a petition like this won't gain momentum with just the hard core. The essential issue is for people who do support something like this to get family, friends and aquaintances to sign up.

Who knows what may happen then?
By:
Lee Ho Fooks
When: 02 Apr 16 13:55
I'm on with that EE, will be on it at work too
By:
kenny mann
When: 02 Apr 16 14:33
signed, paddy power referred a £10 bet today on a 5/2 shot!
By:
kenny mann
When: 02 Apr 16 14:38
From "The Mathematician".





#1 - Petition For More Honourable Bookmakers

I noted this Houses of Parliament petition the other day
that is seeking more honourable behaviour from our
bookmaker friends.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/125456

Most of them work on the principle of
discrimination against individuals like you.
Show any sign of winning and they will
limit stakes on your individual account but
treat others very differently.

Picture going into a supermarket
to buy a loaf of bread but getting told at the till
that you personally because you are you are only
permitted to buy one slice.
The bloke in the queue after you they sell the whole loaf to.

Pure persecution and discrimination against individuals.

Even if they are not persecuting you today
they may want to in future.

I would not be in 100% agreement with the precise
wording of this petition. If setting it up myself
I may have phrased it around bookies accepting
a minimum liability as opposed to a minimum stake.

In New South Wales in Australia for example
bookmakers are indeed forced to accept
decent bets of 2500 Aussie dollars if memory serves me right
after punters there said bookie past behaviour was "not fair dinkum".
It was most of the uk brands who are also over there that got the most criticism.
The racing authorities there introduced rules to reduce individual
punter perpetuation behaviour.

But despite me not agreeing 100% with the exact wording of this one
I have signed it anyhow. At his stage it is more so about
raising awareness of the general issue in the Houses of Parliament.

It will take you a mere 30 seconds or so to complete.
Who knows in a years time you may be able to claim
that you yourself helped change the world for the better
for many punting years to come.

The Aussies didn't want a shafting so stood up for themselves and won.
What are you Uk  punters going to do?
Lube yourself up, bend over and touch your toes singing Dancing Queen
or do you have it in you to put up a bit more resistance than that?

[No offence intended to those of you who may find that
an attratctive idea ]

Here is the link again.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/125456

Use your own vote then pass on the link
to any punter friends or webmasters you may be in contact with.
By:
hong kong fooey
When: 02 Apr 16 14:39
Signed
By:
cribbage king
When: 02 Apr 16 14:56
signed
By:
kenny mann
When: 02 Apr 16 15:05
1320 signatures so far

come on lads and lasses, takes 30 secs

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/125456
By:
homefortea
When: 02 Apr 16 19:20
Eeternaloptimist 02 Apr 16 13:53 Joined: 28 Jun 10 | Topic/replies: 37,158 | Blogger: Eeternaloptimist's blog
It's important for people to be proactive here. There may be a few hundred to few thousand directly affected now but a petition like this won't gain momentum with just the hard core. The essential issue is for people who do support something like this to get family, friends and aquaintances to sign up.

Are you a feckin idiot...

Hundreds of thousands even millions of accounts have been closed.

Tens of millions world wide have been restricted.
By:
willsford
When: 02 Apr 16 19:29
Well done good work.. signed
By:
Lee Ho Fooks
When: 02 Apr 16 19:51
1399 signedShocked
When I checked earlier there were 58 and I got 5 of those.

It's gathering momentum, keep referring.
By:
homefortea
When: 02 Apr 16 20:17
According to the eternaloptomist that is it then...

The complete number of punters that have been restricted has been reached...
By:
Lee Ho Fooks
When: 02 Apr 16 20:22
You signed then hft?
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 02 Apr 16 20:53
homefortea

Are you a feckin idiot...

Hundreds of thousands even millions of accounts have been closed.


Do you have any evidence for this? Any at all?

You see unlike yourself I don't tend to make comments without a reasonable idea that I'm not talking rubbish. There's roughly 45 million adults in this country. Around 16% of those when surveyed admit to having a bet on the horses. That would be about 7 million. The vast majority of those will be your few times a year punter who bet on the National, Gold Cup, Derby etc. At a generous estimate you are probably talking about a hardcore race enthusiastic group of horse racing punters of around a million. Which is probably around where the combined totals of Racinguk, Channel Four and live racecourse betters comes to. Out of those a significant number will be your older 50 pence yankee or a few doubles and a treble type old timers. You see where I am taking you here? It's called the deep end and you haven't got your arm bands on. Out of the rest will be a significant number of regular and long term losers like yourself. Bookies still want to do business with that kind of person. No we are getting to the numbers I'm talking about. A few thousand maybe.

So you tell me gobshiite where are these millions of accounts which have been closed? Fantasy Island? Or did you open them all you high roller you? Laugh

Here's some free advice son. Put down the crack pipe. Have a good wash, a shave and put on some clean clothes instead of those rancid urine stained track suit bottoms. Go and peer outside your bedsit. Even better mix with some real people. It's amazing the things someone as clueless as yourself could pick up just mixing with more intelligent people than you are and let's face it that won't be difficult will it? I'd imagine the contents of a nappy would be evens against you on Mastermind.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 02 Apr 16 20:54
Sorry about that. Where's my manners? Enjoy the rest of your evening.
By:
homefortea
When: 02 Apr 16 21:07
eternaloptomist..

Read my post again you loser...

You have spent hours posting **** e..

The millions that I have referred to are Worldwide...

I have personally had hundreds of accounts closed down and I am sure many more have..

You must be the village idiot.
By:
homefortea
When: 02 Apr 16 21:09
"A few thousand punters in the UK cannot get a bet on..."

eternalw anker you should be reported for offences against the Mental Health Act...
By:
homefortea
When: 02 Apr 16 21:15
No we are getting to the numbers I'm talking about. A few thousand maybe.


Is this fella for real....LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
lmfao
When: 02 Apr 16 21:17
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/126319/sponsors/jTQaz3xBgrDkXvYCVxCi



above is the correct link- please sign and pass round
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 02 Apr 16 22:46
homefortea

The millions that I have referred to are Worldwide...


Erm. No. If the rest of us have to read your shiit the least you can do is read it yourself. There it is a few posts up. You were talking about tens of millions world wide so when you were talking about hundreds of thousands even millions you were clearly talking about this country you turnip.

Hundreds of thousands even millions of accounts have been closed.

Tens of millions world wide have been restricted.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 02 Apr 16 22:47
Apologies lmfao for sidetracking a very honourable attempt to address an iniquity.
By:
patrick starr
When: 02 Apr 16 23:58
it was worth it simply for the line that referred to hft as the contents of a nappy! LaughLaughLaugh

signed and good luck Happy
By:
foxy
When: 03 Apr 16 10:12
cant really understand what all the fuss is about everybody on this thread must have a  betfair account and as it is always bigger on this exchange and you can have as much on as you like why worry about the high street bookmakers ?
By:
YOMOMMA
When: 03 Apr 16 10:18
Once you reach PC betfair is useless and plus there is no liquidity.
By:
YOMOMMA
When: 03 Apr 16 10:19
and it's filled with bots.
By:
YOMOMMA
When: 03 Apr 16 10:20
and the website is horrifically bad.
By:
YOMOMMA
When: 03 Apr 16 10:21
etc.
By:
foxy
When: 03 Apr 16 10:21
really i was led to believe betfair was the best invention of the last 100 years.
By:
YOMOMMA
When: 03 Apr 16 10:23
The best invention of the last 100 years was the mp3 player.
By:
foxy
When: 03 Apr 16 10:40
what are they ?
By:
Fatlad 1981
When: 03 Apr 16 10:45
Are any of you lads pushing this on social media twitter/facebook,if it's been mentioned on the thread earlier I apologise
By:
YOMOMMA
When: 03 Apr 16 10:48
MP3 player is an electronic device that can play digital audio music files. Portable MP3 players are super such as the iPod.
By:
foxy
When: 03 Apr 16 10:50
glad you enjoy them
By:
ima_mazed66
When: 03 Apr 16 13:15
You have to laugh at homefortea seemingly thinking that our parliament can set laws for the rest of the world lol.

It's totally irrelevant if millions worldwide have been restricted or had accounts closed if the clue is the petition website is for the UK Government and Parliament.
By:
lmfao
When: 03 Apr 16 13:42
Gentlemen:

Click this link to sign the petition:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/126319/sponsors/jTQaz3xBgrDkXvYCVxCi


Please spread the word on social media - can everyone please commit to get a few more signees please- and ask them to do the same?
Thanks
By:
Lee Ho Fooks
When: 03 Apr 16 13:46
I also signed the one that Kennyman mentioned, we all might as well sign both eh?

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/125456
By:
pablo-fanque
When: 03 Apr 16 13:50
one link has 64 signatures
one has over 1000

I think you need to clarify which to sign , kennys or lmfao
By:
lmfao
When: 03 Apr 16 13:57
sign both!
i was unaware of the earlier one- when i put this one up

imo the other one is flawed and that we have more chance of a result if the NSW Australia argument is pressed re minimum liability per customer - rather than 'up to £25 stake'

Its just an opinion - lease sign both/ ask others  and spread the word. I know at least one MP is interested- we could do with journalists onside - anyone got a contact?

cheers
By:
zipper
When: 03 Apr 16 14:00
foxy post   10.12 is the real answer re bookies
By:
ima_mazed66
When: 03 Apr 16 14:22
It's also a very one dimensional way of looking at it too and you need to see the bigger picture.

There are several reasons why sometimes using a bookie can be better than using an exchange.
By:
IDKW
When: 03 Apr 16 14:29
zipper clearly doesn't get "irony"
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