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holywell
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Bristol De Mai - 9/2 - 1.30 Cheltenham
Leave At Dawn - 7/1 (guaranteed price) - 2.10 Cheltenham
John's Spirit - 6/1 - 4.10 Cheltenham
Doctor Harper - 11/2 - 5.30 Cheltenham

Triple the odds one winner, non-runner goes on favourite.

Good luck all.
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Report cardifffc March 17, 2016 11:22 AM GMT
holywell......I know you like a lucky 15 but personally think its a mugs bet ....I am not knocking you but do you do placepots..........think its a better bet to win big money
Report holywell March 17, 2016 11:35 AM GMT
The lucky 15's are a fun bet for me, triple the odds one winner is a bonus. I have had a number of 'four figure' returns over the years.

I also back and lay on the exchange.

I only ever do placepots when I go racing.

Good luck with your placepots today.
Report xmoneyx March 17, 2016 11:37 AM GMT
130-garde la victoire@7/2
210-artpeg dalene@16/1
250-valseur lido@10/1
410-empire of dirt@16/1
530-upswing@8/1

lucky31 mug bet WinkExcited
Report ashleigh March 17, 2016 11:48 AM GMT
our kaempfer 12/1 2-10 
valseur lido 9/1 2-50 
smart talk 13/2 4-50 
doctor harper 6/1 5-30 

missed approach 10/1 2-10 
thistlecrack 11/8 3-30 
johns spirit 6/1 4-10
the giant bolster 10/1 5-30 
 
e/w all 1/4 a place 
guaranteed odds all races 
 
good luck all.
Report playthegameboy March 17, 2016 11:59 AM GMT
1.30 Garde La Victoire
2.10 Arpege D'Alene
4.10 Johns Spirit
5.30 The Giant Bolster

Good Luck Mugs!! Laugh
Report topshot March 17, 2016 11:59 AM GMT
Another mug bet

1.30...Bristol De Mai...5/1
3.30...Martello Tower...22/1
4.10..Salubrious ...18/1
5.30..Cause of Causes..6/1



Good luck everyone
Report ashleigh March 17, 2016 12:07 PM GMT
cardifffc, don't agree with you on being a mug bet, for many years it's been a loss leader for bookmakers, most have stopped the treble odds 1 winner because they couldn't win on the bet. 
yesterday had 3 lucky 15's each with a winner in each at odds of 12/1, 7/1,7/1, which returned a profit. [shame i didn't get the 3 together]

not keen on the lucky 31 that xmoneyx does as 16 bets lost when 1 down.
Report xmoneyx March 17, 2016 12:16 PM GMT
Sad
Report xmoneyx March 17, 2016 12:17 PM GMT
Excited
Report croaks March 17, 2016 12:23 PM GMT
Three musketeers 12s
If in doubt 11s
Cole harden 7s
Salubrious 20s

Good Luck Gents
Report WEB March 17, 2016 12:25 PM GMT
Thistlecrack 13/8
Limini 4/5
Vautour Evs
SA to beat England 8/11

want the 15% bonus as well at 365
Report hollyday March 17, 2016 12:33 PM GMT
Three Musketeers
All Hell Let Loose
Village Vic
Bloody Mary
ew
GL ALL
Report xmoneyx March 17, 2016 12:35 PM GMT
I need barstool as my lawyer Wink
Report RozelKid March 17, 2016 12:44 PM GMT
EW - 4x odds 1 WINNER -BOG

3.15 Hex - Joseph Mercer 9/1

3.05 Towc- Follow the Tracks 12/1

3.55 Hex-  Bolton Blue 16/1

4.35 Hex- Nosey Box 12/1


cheltenham

2.10 Rolling Maul 50/1

1.30 Three Muskateers 11/1

4.10 Tanguy DE Jeuilly 40/1

5.30 Indian Castle  16/1 NAP

gL ALL
Report PedroPete12 March 17, 2016 12:57 PM GMT
Garde la Victoire 1-30
Our Kaempfer 2-10
Salubrious 4-10
Knock House 5-30

Good luck guys
Report nellie1970 March 17, 2016 12:59 PM GMT
all chelt

2.10 if in doubt
2.50 josses hill
4.10 stilleto
5.30 lost legend

ew lucky

gl all
Report onthehoy March 17, 2016 1:09 PM GMT
1:30  bristol de mai
2:50  road to riches
3:30  cole harden
4:50  tara flow

ew L15
Report Mr Eboue March 17, 2016 1:15 PM GMT
Chelt:
1:30 - Zabana 10/1
2:10 - Leave at Dawn 8/1
2:50 - Vautour - 11/10
5:30 - Upswing - 8/1
Report cardifffc March 17, 2016 1:26 PM GMT
Ashleigh.............if the bookies have 10 or 15% on every race.....multiply by 11 bets...........surely better working out the bet.........doing singles on betfair.........would be easy to work each bet..........zero percentage
Report nellie1970 March 17, 2016 2:21 PM GMT
CryCrystopped about 121 times oh dickieSad
Report holywell March 17, 2016 4:59 PM GMT
Good luck with your last leg WEB.
Report WEB March 17, 2016 5:06 PM GMT
Thank you. Will be trading that in running tomorrow!
Report s.kenbo March 17, 2016 6:37 PM GMT
Give me a Lucky 15 over a placepot any day of the week. You can get five winners and an unplaced horse and you win fook all.
Report cardifffc March 17, 2016 6:39 PM GMT
you can also have no winners and have a 20k placepot........works both ways
Report cardifffc March 17, 2016 6:41 PM GMT
when I used to go to the betting 8 out of 10 people had their biggest  win from a placepot and the other 2 had never done a placepot in their life
Report cardifffc March 17, 2016 6:45 PM GMT
apart from the guy with 3 short priced winners the others are not a good advert for a lucky 15
Report jon b March 17, 2016 6:46 PM GMT
Cardiffc , what about the mug who stuck 2 quid on all 7 winners on Tuesday , 203k back its reported , each to their own but its worth remembering if all punters had the game by the balls then bookies would be out of business and the pro,s couldn,t get a bet on anywhere . Some of us betting is a buz , stakes small and winning is the bonus part .
Report s.kenbo March 17, 2016 6:47 PM GMT
Very true about it working both ways.

£20k placepots are a freak occurrence though.

I don't agree with putting shorties in a lucky 15.
Report cardifffc March 17, 2016 6:47 PM GMT
did he do a lucky 15???????????
Report s.kenbo March 17, 2016 6:50 PM GMT
I presume he did.
Report cardifffc March 17, 2016 6:54 PM GMT
jon b..........you try to pick 4 winners.........you will probably land one in a couple of years..........good placepots occur all the time.......I almost only do irish placepots during the winter...........ive only done 2 this year...........1100 one...........I did 28.80.......had it for 40p..........and about 3 weeks I had a pot over 1700..........I had over 700 for 32 quid.......try pick 4 winners and get that much back.........I would have a beard down to my feet before I landed one
Report s.kenbo March 17, 2016 7:02 PM GMT
You get less than 35/1 for your money, and less than 25/1 on the other. Any decent lucky 15 will piss all over that.
Report cardifffc March 17, 2016 7:09 PM GMT
picking 4 winners is a lot more difficult than picking places where you have multiple selections............ive done only 4 placepots this jump season...........2 before xmas..........lost half my stake.........almost all my stake on the other one........and the other 2...........I know what bet I prefer
Report cardifffc March 17, 2016 7:16 PM GMT
the day I had the 1700 pot I was a bit unlucky has I had the horse that was disq for carrying 13ibs less........that wasn't the unlucky part ........I had a choice between him and the promoted horse so it was a double whammy........missing places like that costs you fortunes in placepots
Report s.kenbo March 17, 2016 7:19 PM GMT
When you're doing big perms it's pretty hard not to land the placepot, making a profit is a bit tougher.

I do them both as a fun bet,(the pro's on here will tell you that there's no such thing) but you can outlay the price of a few beers and have a chance to make life changing money. The odds are definitely against you on a lucky 15, but that just makes it even more appealing to me.
Report cardifffc March 17, 2016 7:28 PM GMT
you are right...........I kind of work on the theory that the one big one will carry the pots that wont make you money......the first 2 ive done this season didn't make money but the 2 good ones means I can afford a few money backs or losing a few quid
Report cardifffc March 17, 2016 7:30 PM GMT
I don't mind failing or having your money back when its small .......that's going to happen..............I think you can have a good feel if a pot is going to be any good...........but sometimes ive been badly wrong
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