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shergar007
12 Feb 16 12:42
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Will always be known as the Schweppes Gold Trophy to me - used to be known for its laid out coups especially by Ryan Price

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By:
ladycarla
When: 12 Feb 16 12:50
Will always be known as the Tote Gold trophy to me, Make a stand will probably be my best winner of it and I couldn't believe after the race I got 9/1 for champion hurdle. Happy daysCool
By:
blackbarn
When: 12 Feb 16 12:54
The good Captain won four out of the first five runnings.  Got warned off for Rosyth's second winWink
By:
blackbarn
When: 12 Feb 16 12:58
here you go ladycarla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IfqMW-mrBI
By:
portmanpark
When: 12 Feb 16 13:11
schweppes
By:
duffy
When: 12 Feb 16 13:16
tote gold trophy here too
By:
loper
When: 12 Feb 16 13:19
Schweppes
By:
Facts
When: 12 Feb 16 13:19
Schweppes - for those of us who have been in the game longer Happy
By:
TheFear
When: 12 Feb 16 13:20
Betfair Hurdle. Have to respect the sponsors.
By:
lead on
When: 12 Feb 16 13:23
Still think of it as The Schweppes...still feel the pain thinking of Major Thompson
By:
dunlaying
When: 12 Feb 16 13:24
Schweppes and they have had their value out of the advertising campaign.
By:
The Headmaster
When: 12 Feb 16 13:31
Sshhh....
By:
Go to War
When: 12 Feb 16 13:34
Schweppes for me and it will always be the the Whitbread at Sandown. Then there's the Mackeson and the Massey Fergusson at Cheltenham. . . . . . sorry must be getting old!
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 12 Feb 16 13:36
imagine stick ryan price would get on bf forum
By:
ged
When: 12 Feb 16 13:50
The first Schweppes Hurdle was run at Aintree on the Thursday of the Grand National meeting. There were 41 runners. Rosyth was a 5yo, carrying 10-0, having his 5th run over hurdles. Ryan Price was something else.

Salmon Spray was also in the race, also a 5yo, and carried 10-5. He won the Champion Hurdle 3 years later.
By:
duffy
When: 12 Feb 16 13:55
Schweppes golden mile
By:
blackbarn
When: 12 Feb 16 14:02
Good stuff, only run at Aintree for the first year.  I dont have the data for that initial year but the following year the value to the winner was £7639 which doesn't seem a lot these days but the Champion Hurdle and the Gold Cup were only £8161 and £8004 respectively.
No wonder those big sponsored handicaps were competitive.
By:
geoff m
When: 12 Feb 16 14:04
Schweppes 4 me.
Memories Ekbalco(top weight) scything thro the field on the bit (a bit like Rooster Booster many years later)before being run out of it by Donegal Prince and i think Johnny Francome.
That years shock Champion Hurdle winner For Auction was down the field probably receiving a stone or more from Ekbalco.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 12 Feb 16 14:04
The Schweppes for me too, remember Rodeo Star getting turned over by a grey jonjo horse i think.
By:
ged
When: 12 Feb 16 14:07
Value to the winner in 1963 was £7825 2s 6d (less £200 if ridden by an amateur).


(The redoubtable Spring Cabbage made his racecourse debut in the opening race on the card, the £400 Croxteth Plate for 2yos).
By:
ged
When: 12 Feb 16 14:19
In 1968, there were 34 down to run. 5yo Persian War set a weight-carrying record for the winner, with 11-13. He won 3 Champion Hurdles - but he wasn't even top weight. There were 3 above him - Sempervivum on 12-2, Hill House on 12-1, and Black Justice on 12-0. Further down were Major Rose, Kirriemuir (another Champion Hurdle winner) on 11-8, Even Keel, Supermaster, Celtic Gold, 5yo Spanish Steps, Indamelia, Specify, and Sir Thopas.
By:
ged
When: 12 Feb 16 14:32
Sempervivum was probably the smallest horse in the race, but finished 3rd as a 10yo under his 12-2 behind Persian War and Major Rose. As a 3yo, he'd run in the St Leger when trained in France.
By:
geoff m
When: 12 Feb 16 14:33
Persian War
Salmon Spray
Kirremuir
For Auction
Rooster Booster
any other champiuon hurdlers run in the race?
Cant recall but no doubt Beech Road probably had a run or 2
By:
ged
When: 12 Feb 16 14:53
Another Flash (1960), Magic Court (1964), and Salmon Spray (1966) all ran in the 1964 Schweppes.
By:
dunlaying
When: 12 Feb 16 14:54
Royal Derbi was a hot favourite one year and ran down the field, along with Flakey Dove.
Michael's horse ran second to Royal Gait? in The Champion and Flakey Dove won one I believe.
By:
ged
When: 12 Feb 16 14:57
Anzio (1962) carried top weight of 12-7 in the first running in 1963. (Some chance with a Price horse on 10-0 !).
By:
The Headmaster
When: 12 Feb 16 14:59
Large Action beat Oh So Risky and Flakey Dove at Newbury.

At Cheltenham a month later in the Champion Flakey Dove beat Oh So Risky and Large Action.

So not a bad renewal...
By:
The Headmaster
When: 12 Feb 16 15:04
Also...Thumbs Up finished fourth who was travelling when being brought down in the Arkle two start later and Land Afar was fifth who was also going fine when falling two out in the Champion on his next start.
By:
The Headmaster
When: 12 Feb 16 15:05
One of my faves was watching Neblin get stuffed.

Was a big fan of Toby Balding's but the way that horse was campaigned was rather naughty.
By:
ged
When: 12 Feb 16 15:07
Also in the first running was 13yo Merry Deal, carrying 11-5, who'd won the Champion Hurdle in 1957.

The big money came a bit late for him I guess - though he did win more than £6000 in 1957. He was owned and trained by farmer Arthur Jones, in Oswestry.
By:
salmon spray
When: 12 Feb 16 15:16
Merry Deal was running in sellers by the following season,though I rather think he won a novice chase as well.
No silly sentimentality in those days.
By:
onlooker
When: 12 Feb 16 16:02
Schweppes -

- and can we have the Irish Sweeps Hurdle back, too - as opposed to the Ladbroke, or Coral.ie Hurdle.
By:
ladycarla
When: 12 Feb 16 16:06
Thanks blackburn thats how to destroy a major handicap race Excited
By:
geoff m
When: 12 Feb 16 16:26
I dont think any of the 3 dual winners Night Nurse Sea Pigeon or Monksfield ran in the race altho i recall Night Nurse in the Irish Sweeps,Scottish Champion(with Sea Pigeon) and Royal Doulton (with Sea Pigeon and Monksfield)
By:
ged
When: 12 Feb 16 17:00
I don't know if he actually ran, but reigning champion hurdler Lanzarote was down to carry top weight of 12-5 in the 1975 Schweppes in a field of 29. 2nd top weight was Flash Imp on 11-8. 5yo Birds Nest was on 10-7. 7 of the top 9 in the weights were c/d winners, including Indianapolis on 11-2, who'd won the race in 1973. (It was abandoned in 1974).

The paper betting was 4-1 Maddenstown, 5-1 Lanzarote, 15-2 Birds Nest and Flash Imp.

(Flash Imp went on to run 2nd in the Champion Hurdle the following month to Comedy Of Errors, who by-passd the Schweppes and warmed up in the Champion Hurdle Trial at Wolverhampton on the Monday 2 days later).
By:
onlooker
When: 12 Feb 16 17:16
Some fabulous Hurdler names there - ged.

Far better than all these flamin' French names, nowadays. Cry

LANZAROTTE did run - ridden by Richard Pitman - weakened into midfield - 9/2 FAV from 6s

Tammuz Won - 7-10-13 - W 'Bill' Smith - by half a length - at the unusual odds of 18/1

Trained by Fulke Walwyn - Owned by the Queen Mother - bred by  her daughter, The Queen.
By:
clacton
When: 12 Feb 16 17:21
Schweppes. What happened to the Stones Ginger Wine.Not seen it lately.
By:
ged
When: 12 Feb 16 17:24
Thanks onlooker.

Top of the 1976 weights were Tree Tangle and Flash Imp, the placed horses in the previous year's Champion Hurdle, but the field as a whole is looking distinctly lower quality than a decade earlier.

In 1977, the top weight was 11-4, and again the field is looking more ordinary.

As a historical (perhaps) point of interest, the day before the 1977 Schweppes, the Jockey Club dished out their first bans to  2 trainers for using steroids, and banned 4 horses for the rest of the season. The trainers were Davids Morley and Gandolfo.
By:
ged
When: 12 Feb 16 17:29
...should be *fines to trainers.
By:
alun2005
When: 12 Feb 16 17:37
Schweppes every time for me. And for William Franklyn too I imagine.  (One for the other oldies there).
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