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Diff-rent
31 Jan 16 08:40
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Is he too over confident ??
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Report Ibrahima Sonko January 31, 2016 8:57 AM GMT
British people hate winners.

They like losers.
Report TheFear January 31, 2016 9:12 AM GMT
I like Nicholls. I think he forced a few other trainers to be more open.
Report FOYLESWAR January 31, 2016 9:49 AM GMT
reg he probably thought you were gonna buy the last half dozen steak and kidney pies mate ! no wonder he got the hump !
Report MJK January 31, 2016 9:55 AM GMT
I think the more we see of people like him the more we try to find fault. Particularly in racing when you start seeing the same people over and over it becomes annoying ala Fitzgerald. Nicholls is on the Morning Line very often, interviewed a lot etc.
Report FOYLESWAR January 31, 2016 10:04 AM GMT
he is a winner  like him or not he may not be having such a good season by his own standards but he has set the bar high and will be back ...........i like his openness on most of his horses
Report penzance January 31, 2016 10:08 AM GMT
people get jealous of others,
who do well in life.
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 31, 2016 10:11 AM GMT
You can tell a lot about someone when they speak about someones weight/size
Report aberdonia January 31, 2016 10:19 AM GMT
Paul riding Playschool to victory in the 87 Welsh national

https://youtu.be/mbVX_V_5kKk
Report Meat Loaf January 31, 2016 10:24 AM GMT
He reminds me of Alex Ferguson from a personality perspective. He is driven to be the best and that makes his character a bit spikey.

He is having a "terrible" season and he will still be the leading English trainer - not bad really.
Report 6troytown January 31, 2016 10:26 AM GMT
Yery open about his horses as an old timer I could not imagine ryan price doing that ! Remember hill house anyone!
Report Swardean January 31, 2016 10:49 AM GMT
Shot put Reg? Wink
Report FOYLESWAR January 31, 2016 10:51 AM GMT
probably aimed at me reg but it was said in jest and no malice intended ! as said earlier I like him !
Report dunlaying January 31, 2016 11:34 AM GMT
Probably because he is successful.
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 31, 2016 11:45 AM GMT
Wasnt aimed at you reg, just a general opinion, when someone talks about a leading trainer but uses terms that have nothing to do with their ability/personality it is rather juvenile.
Report 1st time poster January 31, 2016 11:55 AM GMT
because he doesnt believe in what he,s doing himself,wont let himself believe a horse hasnt performed,had a bad day etc,sends them up and down in trip , switching from hurdles to chases and back again , breathing ops,changing tactics soon as they dont win a race
Report brendrew January 31, 2016 12:17 PM GMT
successful +can be abrasive but mans a winner.good on him.
Report differentdrum January 31, 2016 12:28 PM GMT
Strikes me as the sort of person who is fine until you disagree with him.
Report parispike January 31, 2016 12:30 PM GMT
Saw him in the Toat shop at Stratford a few years ago urging a rival horse to fall when clear of one his at an away meeting.

Also at Stratford, having a pop at Jimmy Frost for the ride Jimmy's daughter gave one in a hunter chase (trained by Rose Loxton (?) - a relative)

A thoroughly dislikeable person. Or maybe it's the Stratford air.
Report lead on January 31, 2016 12:37 PM GMT
When Neptune Collonges won the National his first comments to the camera were something like "that's blown Nicky out of the water now"...regarding the Trainer's Championship.Just seemed out of place and lacking class...certainly don't miss the interviews these last few Saturdays.
Report bruno100 January 31, 2016 12:41 PM GMT
Maybe it's because he's a cunnttttt has put a lot of owners away
Report lead on January 31, 2016 1:15 PM GMT
Can't see too many of his getting near a photo this yearHappy
Report thelatarps January 31, 2016 2:05 PM GMT
I dunno
I do remember being gutted when azertyuiop got turned over by Well chief at sandown in 2005 to guarantee Pipe the trainers championship
Pipe was a dodgy blighter
PFN seemed a breath of fresh air
Running his best horses in the conditions races while Pipe was always trying to land some handicap plunge
Then Nicholls got a bit grouchy over Kauto Star who I think was always a bit over rated
I mean that Kempton handicap mark of 190,
Best since Mill HOuse always seemed a load of old hype to me and a bit of a treat given to PFN to keep him happy
Keeping all those owners happy cant be easy
Maybe he wore his heart on his sleeve over Kauto
the subsequent problems with Smith has probably scared a few owners off
Anyway its quite impossible in this day and age to compete with Giggy and Ricci
Mullins will get first crack on any decent Irish PTP horse and any thing which appears on Equidia TV
Interesting to see how WPM keeps all his owners happy.
He seems quite a circumspect individual not given to emotion or hyperbole
Which is probably for the best as he cant be seen to be giving favour to any side.
Either way
Pipe, Nicholls, Mullins have all advanced their sport by their dedication and professional attitude
Bet most of us wish we could say the same about our punting
Report Eeternaloptimist January 31, 2016 2:12 PM GMT
You have to divorce personal views from views about his training ability. He's been a great trainer and has been at the top a long time and you have to respect that. As a person he sometimes comes across as very ungracious and prickly.
Report tilted January 31, 2016 3:09 PM GMT
Whereas Philip Hobbs is thoroughly likeable, and loyal to his wife Sarah and Richard Johnson, Paul Nicholls has had several stable jockeys and two or three wives.
He has annoyed one or two photographers and uniquely 'lost' several major owners _ Harry Findlay, Clive Smith and Jim Lewis (THREE Gold Cup winning owners).
Not on particularly good terms any more with Highflyer Bloodstock and now primarily uses Tom Malone to buy his horses.
I've not asked them but it would be interesting to know what Isaac Souede and Simon Munir think of him.
They have horses with Nicky H, Nigel TD, David Pipe, Gordon Elliott, Alan King, WPM, Oliver Sherwood and Harry Fry but NOT Paul Nicholls.
Report xmoneyx January 31, 2016 3:20 PM GMT
You have to dedicate your life as a trainer

no trainer is the same(good/bad faults)

training is never a given

when he started out,I don't think he could of dreamed of the success he's had
Report ThirdTimeLucky January 31, 2016 4:09 PM GMT
Not sure how much losing two, or even all three of those owners is that bad a thing.
Must admit, met him a few times, and doesn't seem to be the most likable of people, but then sometimes people at the top of their chosen professions aren't

Was low class though how he decided to retire in the paddock straight after More of Thats world hurdle, it was like..I'm not in the limelight, and it's all about me, me, me.
Report ThirdTimeLucky January 31, 2016 4:12 PM GMT
Thats retire Big Buck's not himself of course
Report halcyon days January 31, 2016 7:42 PM GMT
... Harry was always going ''to the dogs'' Homme !   Wink
Report homefortea January 31, 2016 7:46 PM GMT
As a music lover halcyon you saw my post about Wayne Rooneys children.One of my best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7YOCoSq9_U
Report Diff-rent January 31, 2016 8:50 PM GMT
It seems the people who have actually met him do not speak highly of him , that in itself is interesting to hear.
Meat loaf - that's a good point about Sir Alex Ferguson. Most people couldn't stand him but he was a winner that's for sure.
Report homefortea January 31, 2016 8:54 PM GMT
Who could not stand Fergie you half-wit...

I hate his politics but he was the finest Manager EVER...
Report Diff-rent January 31, 2016 8:59 PM GMT
Loads of people fell out with Fergie , players , rival managers , press , footy fans and even upset his own employers over the breeding rights of one of their champion Irish race horse??
Report Diff-rent January 31, 2016 9:00 PM GMT
Even Golden balls !!!! Beckham
Report expensive hobby January 31, 2016 9:13 PM GMT
The question is why is he disliked on the forum. My answer is that no one has spent any real time with him ( please forgive me those who have spent time in line for a cup of tea with him ) and forumites are extrapolating from snippets of him they see in the media.

At the end of the day he and other trainers feed horse hay and gallop them up a hill and enter them in races. who give a fcuk
Report xmoneyx January 31, 2016 11:33 PM GMT
feed horse hay


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