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gerard
29 Jan 16 13:31
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Completely useless here, which was a surprise.....
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Report Darlo Bantam January 30, 2016 12:35 PM GMT
Paused at least three times then. Anyone else?
Report jamesdean January 30, 2016 12:36 PM GMT
Was fine here
Report Biscar Two from a mile back January 30, 2016 12:36 PM GMT
desperate darlo
we need to get together and do something because until we do we will have to put up with this sheight
Report Biscar Two from a mile back January 30, 2016 12:37 PM GMT
james what isp and browser please ?
Report bilbobaggins January 30, 2016 12:37 PM GMT
Lots of pausing
Report Princes Purple Guitar January 30, 2016 12:38 PM GMT
couple of pauses but relatively good for me - did not seem to lose time (Sky)
Report jamesdean January 30, 2016 12:39 PM GMT
Bt and Google chrome. Was fine all race for a change
Report Biscar Two from a mile back January 30, 2016 12:39 PM GMT
ok ty
Report Oceanfinance January 30, 2016 12:40 PM GMT
Stopped completely for me just before the last
Report Deltâ January 30, 2016 12:40 PM GMT
bt - firefox

spot on here
Report tomhunt January 30, 2016 12:40 PM GMT
bt- chrome

no problems
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 30, 2016 12:41 PM GMT
Cheltenham no good
Report Darlo Bantam January 30, 2016 12:41 PM GMT
Same at Cheltenham now.
Report Darlo Bantam January 30, 2016 12:42 PM GMT

Jan 30, 2016 -- 12:40PM, Oceanfinance wrote:


Stopped completely for me just before the last


Yep. Same here.

Report Biscar Two from a mile back January 30, 2016 12:48 PM GMT
Snap !!
Report jamesdean January 30, 2016 1:02 PM GMT
Terrible this race Cry
Report Biscar Two from a mile back January 30, 2016 1:02 PM GMT
yup i switched to firefox and its no good, pot luck it seems
Report Princes Purple Guitar January 30, 2016 1:05 PM GMT
smooth as a Pinto Grigio in the evening...and i had the winner oi oi
Report jamesdean January 30, 2016 1:05 PM GMT
I don't think it's a isp or browser issue due to sometimes it's fine for others will sh1te for me using same set up.

It's a problem a Betfair's end, either from ATR or their own servers

They need to get it sorted pronto
Report thebootman January 30, 2016 1:05 PM GMT
Didn't see first but that was a nightmare. Also tried on my neighbours wifi (they know) which is sky compared to my Virgin broadband and both paused.
Report broadsword January 30, 2016 1:05 PM GMT
RANCID  service
Report jamesdean January 30, 2016 1:05 PM GMT
while
Report Oceanfinance January 30, 2016 1:05 PM GMT
Hopeless. Tried internet explorer and Mozilla.Cry
Report Oceanfinance January 30, 2016 1:07 PM GMT
If it's internet or ISP related how comes it only seems to happen one meeting at a time?
Report Rollo Tomasi January 30, 2016 1:07 PM GMT
Useless on BT using IE

That's ADSL not Fibre Optic.
Also running Gruss BA
Report Darlo Bantam January 30, 2016 1:07 PM GMT
Started fine. Then spluttered for middle mile probably and finished fine.
Report dustybin January 30, 2016 1:08 PM GMT
that lost 14 seconds during that last race
abysmal offering from bf again
Report pablo-fanque January 30, 2016 1:08 PM GMT
it seems to always be the same users that have a problem

must be something that you lot have either on your computer or area

it's not you ISP or browsers

could it be :

anti virus software
version of windows

?
Report dustybin January 30, 2016 1:09 PM GMT
software that affects certain tracks?
lingfield was ok yesterday
Report Rider January 30, 2016 1:09 PM GMT
have had some problems previous weeks but everything fine at donny last 2 days
Report Oceanfinance January 30, 2016 1:09 PM GMT
it seems to always be the same PROVIDERS that have a problem (ATR & SIS!!!)
Report pablo-fanque January 30, 2016 1:09 PM GMT
not sure dusty , but a common denominator needs to be found
Report jamesdean January 30, 2016 1:12 PM GMT
It's fine at other tracks though pablo.  Lingfield was fine yesterday. If it was an individual problem with virus software , windows or isp etc
all tracks would be sh1t.

It's Betfair no opening enough servers imo. They can fix it as they usually do once they get on the job. Usually with 1 race left

They need someone on the job before and during each meeting. Too much to ask though
Report Darlo Bantam January 30, 2016 1:13 PM GMT

Jan 30, 2016 -- 1:09PM, dustybin wrote:


software that affects certain tracks?lingfield was ok yesterday


No problems with the first at Fairyhouse, no problems with Meydan here. So, it's more than just a software/hardware/ISP issue.

Report dustybin January 30, 2016 1:13 PM GMT
LV was dead level with channel 4 feed at start of race.
was 14 seconds behind by the end
how can the start be same level, it will mean next race must be at least 14 seconds behind to start, but it wont be Im guessing because each race is a fresh stream and simply gets worse the longer its open
Report grey shark January 30, 2016 1:13 PM GMT
It's fine at other tracks though pablo.  Lingfield was fine yesterday. If it was an individual problem with virus software , windows or isp etc
all tracks would be sh1t.


correct , chrome and bt here
Report pablo-fanque January 30, 2016 1:14 PM GMT
I see JD .

could it be something to do with that CMD thingy , where you send packets to betfairs servers and it shows you the delay ( or something like that )
Report dustybin January 30, 2016 1:15 PM GMT
you mean pathping going through hops
Report Rollo Tomasi January 30, 2016 1:15 PM GMT
OK copy and paste then delete as appropriate

Broadband : ADSL/Fibre Optic/Cable
ISP : BT/Talk Talk/Sky etc
Windows 10/7/XP or other
Betting programs : What else are you running that refreshes prices etc ot using normal website interface
Browser : IE version, Firefox
Sole internet user at location : Yes/No
Picture speed : Great, useless etc
Report nuthouse January 30, 2016 1:22 PM GMT
no lag at Cheltenham so just playing up at doncaster
Report pablo-fanque January 30, 2016 1:23 PM GMT
yes dusty , when there was a problem with betfair price refreshes , we had to do that hops pathping thing , it showed that some pings were so much slower than what it should have been and I think betfair fixed it .

could it also be the same for live video ?
Report Biscar Two from a mile back January 30, 2016 1:24 PM GMT
Fairyhouse pausing now
Report gerard January 30, 2016 1:26 PM GMT
Broadband : ADSL
ISP : BT
Windows /XP or
Betting programs : Gruss (on different computer)
Browser : Firefox
Sole internet user at location : Yes/
Picture speed : Only using for Doncaster - fine in the first, useless the second.  Useless all day yesterday.
Report jamesdean January 30, 2016 1:30 PM GMT
Fine pre race here (as per)
Report Rollo Tomasi January 30, 2016 1:30 PM GMT
Broadband : ADSL
ISP : BT
Windows 7
Betting programs : Gruss BA
Browser : IE 9
Sole internet user at location : Yes
Picture speed : Useless now but used to be OK
Report dustybin January 30, 2016 1:30 PM GMT
was fine its lot a second already
Report jamesdean January 30, 2016 1:31 PM GMT
and sh1t during race (as per)
Report Darlo Bantam January 30, 2016 1:32 PM GMT
Woeful
Report duncan idaho January 30, 2016 1:34 PM GMT
Cry
Report werbie January 30, 2016 1:34 PM GMT
LV in reverse here Cry
Report bilbobaggins January 30, 2016 1:35 PM GMT
This is pathetic - why the hell can't they sort it.
Report dustybin January 30, 2016 1:35 PM GMT
that race lost 21 seconds
I counted easy 20 seconds but it was hard to tell as you couldnt see the horse cross the line as it was frozen
Report Oceanfinance January 30, 2016 1:36 PM GMT
at least mine was behind pre race there so i knew to not bet Cry
Report Princes Purple Guitar January 30, 2016 1:36 PM GMT
something strange as i was fine again throughout that race
Report dustybin January 30, 2016 1:39 PM GMT
its definitely the route it takes to some getting slowed
bf do the bare minimum it seems to rectify this
Report duffy January 30, 2016 1:44 PM GMT
Broadband : ADSL
ISP : Sky 
Windows 10
Betting programs :Gruss
Browser : IE 10 (I think)
Sole internet user at location : Yes
Picture speed : Great

No probs.
Report dustybin January 30, 2016 1:44 PM GMT
ling also a bag of 5hit
Report gerard January 30, 2016 1:44 PM GMT
First at Lingfield fine - did have pausing but, crucially, speeded up to correct time.
Report Darlo Bantam January 30, 2016 1:44 PM GMT
Absolute no problems with Lingfield for me.
Report dustybin January 30, 2016 1:45 PM GMT
its the pathping people should be posting imo, not software
its where you are in the country
Report jamesdean January 30, 2016 1:45 PM GMT
Lingfield was fine here
Report tomhunt January 30, 2016 1:46 PM GMT
donny and ling crap here,can't wait for uttox to get the treble up
Report bilbobaggins January 30, 2016 1:46 PM GMT
Lingfield rubbish. Was 3.5 secs ahead of ATR at beginning but 2 secs behind at end.
Report duffy January 30, 2016 1:46 PM GMT
I'm in south west
Report grey shark January 30, 2016 1:47 PM GMT
^^
SW here to , Lingfield good there
Report duffy January 30, 2016 1:48 PM GMT
where to grey? Cornwall here
Report dustybin January 30, 2016 1:48 PM GMT
We're currently liaising with ATR to get this rectified and checking internal servers

blimey, perhaps they do read our comments, now what are they gunna do about it?
Report DMS January 30, 2016 1:52 PM GMT
I'm in Bristol. Donny (especially, same as yesterday) & Lingers poor, Fairy & Uttox absolutely fine
Report Rollo Tomasi January 30, 2016 1:59 PM GMT
Is Ireland always OK?
Report duncan idaho January 30, 2016 2:00 PM GMT
bilbobaggins
30 Jan 16 13:46

Lingfield rubbish. Was 3.5 secs ahead of ATR at beginning but 2 secs behind at end.




Pretty much the same here
Report grey shark January 30, 2016 2:04 PM GMT
Duffy

bournemouth , fairyhouse good there
Report duffy January 30, 2016 2:07 PM GMT
they ain't SW, cornwall mate, that's SW,WinkWink
Report bilbobaggins January 30, 2016 2:10 PM GMT
Donny fine then.
Report dustybin January 30, 2016 2:11 PM GMT
well that donny race lost no time at all against the feed
if its true what bf just said about talking with atr about internal servers then that might have done it
why the hell is it the customers who have to regulate the product ffs?
Report gerard January 30, 2016 2:12 PM GMT
Also better here.
Report dustybin January 30, 2016 2:12 PM GMT
it obviously stinks if atr/bf only act when pushed as that is open to abuse
Report Insanity Later January 30, 2016 2:13 PM GMT
Yeah that one ok.
Report Darlo Bantam January 30, 2016 2:13 PM GMT
Finally fixed fully for that race. Amazing that you can get the same problem every day, yet always takes an hour or so and dozens of complaints for the fix to come.
Report jamesdean January 30, 2016 2:15 PM GMT
jamesdean
jamesdean 30 Jan 16 13:12 Joined: 15 Sep 05 | Topic/replies: 8,358 | Blogger: jamesdean's blog
It's fine at other tracks though pablo.  Lingfield was fine yesterday. If it was an individual problem with virus software , windows or isp etc
all tracks would be sh1t.

It's Betfair no opening enough servers imo. They can fix it as they usually do once they get on the job. Usually with 1 race left

They need someone on the job before and during each meeting. Too much to ask though



This!  As has just been proved with doncaster fixed and betfairs explanation
Report dustybin January 30, 2016 2:17 PM GMT
I believe its a question for regulators
'who's responsibility is it to protect gamblers from potential abuse?'
Report Darlo Bantam January 30, 2016 2:18 PM GMT
Now Lingfield spluttering after first was fine.
Report Rollo Tomasi January 30, 2016 2:18 PM GMT
If Betfair are talking to ATR why don't they ask them why the TV pictures are so slow? If they were like the old ATR Extra we wouldn't need Live Video.
Report grey shark January 30, 2016 2:19 PM GMT
they ain't SW, cornwall mate, that's SW

Duffy
Dorset is the gateway to the S/W

ling and donny better here to
Report tomhunt January 30, 2016 2:20 PM GMT
exactly rolo it could all be remedied if they just sent the pics through normally to sky et al,alas too much money to be made in selling the product to all the bookmakers
Report Rollo Tomasi January 30, 2016 2:23 PM GMT
ATR proved in the past they could supply fast pictures, they just don't want to. Hence we have at least twice seen horses running backwards during a "live" race as someone presumably pressed the rewind button on their rancid tape delayed broadcast.
Report Darlo Bantam January 30, 2016 3:16 PM GMT
Camera needs a bit of a wipe now!
Report jamesdean January 30, 2016 3:53 PM GMT
Back to pausville at Doncaster
Report duncan idaho January 30, 2016 3:55 PM GMT
garbage
Report grey shark January 30, 2016 3:58 PM GMT
crap here , nearly 10 seconds behind at the finish .....
Report tomhunt January 30, 2016 3:58 PM GMT
yep
Report jamesdean January 30, 2016 4:02 PM GMT
Lingfield pausing late on too
Report Oceanfinance January 30, 2016 4:03 PM GMT
What an appalling service. Especially when people are risking money.
Report tomhunt January 30, 2016 4:03 PM GMT
home bend...kaput
Report jamesdean January 30, 2016 4:04 PM GMT
So how did they manage to fix it for a couple of hours?

Would like to know what they done and why it went back to playing up after a few races...
Report Oceanfinance January 30, 2016 4:04 PM GMT
Me too james Sad
Report Rollo Tomasi January 30, 2016 4:07 PM GMT
The Betfair have fixed it bubble has just burst.
Report grey shark January 30, 2016 4:14 PM GMT
uttox , one second behind atr there
Report jamesdean January 30, 2016 4:29 PM GMT
Doncaster fine until just before the home bend then kaput....funny that....
Report broadsword January 30, 2016 4:31 PM GMT
stitch up tv innit
Report TheFear January 30, 2016 6:17 PM GMT
When there's a problem is it not replicated on purple? Suggesting the problem is with ATR and not BF?
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