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these swapped jockeys aboard cradle mountain today ,but id anything had a negative affect in my view
he slow the horse up at the 2nd last and last , loosing all momentum , if he does this at chelt instead of pushing the horse into the hurdle , he will get beat every time ! must have easily lost over a length at the last , never had a bet but . very poor ride imo !
he slow the horse up at the 2nd last and last , loosing all momentum , if he does this at chelt instead of pushing the horse into the hurdle , he will get beat every time ! must have easily lost over a length at the last , never had a bet but . very poor ride imo !
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Alright mart
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yes fine just been looking at races pre chelt think confidence is a big thing before chelt
fortune favors the brave , think he will have my squiggle , seams to slow horses when presenting to hurdle , do that at chelt its good night vienna one of my fav jockey was steve smith eccles |
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Backed this today ,fully agree with your synopsis ,very poor indeed, makes me think maybe they changed plans at the last minute..
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Agree he was very poor on that lad today up the home straight. Bar More Of That what other good rides will he have at Cheltenham?
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work rider he almost slowed up at the 2nd last ,and almost came to a stand still at the last , lost all impetus , when you look at all the prolific winning hurdlers , they all attack their hurdles ,
rem beat the retreat humped fast and low barely slowed up , think the horse is not a natural , but when a rider slow's up like that into a flight the horses sometimes sense something is wrong and they start to waver , and wander , its as if he bottled it after the horse made a few errors during the race , deffo lost a couple of len and cost it the race workrider very unlucky if i may say so hows your luck been in general work rider  |
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he gets a few rides from henderson joevalue147 a punter had said that's the 3rd time in a week he has slowed horses right up , approaching the penultimate flight , wander if its a confidence thing make sure they get over rather than an go for it
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He'll be getting feck all real top rides off Henderson because Jacob has the Munir job and Nico has his foot firmly in the door now. He will be riding Pendra in one of the handicaps for JP. Can't think of having any rides with a favorites chance.
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when they start to loose their bottle at smaller venues , its any wander owners want someone who has nerves of steel , one place it does not suit bridle jockeys and hesitant riders is chelt
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Bigmart , everything I back is finishing 2nd , in fact its unreal the amount I've had , what was most interesting was his decision to stay right behind horses most of the way round , never really allowed his horse see a hurdle .
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he does this a lot work rider , its a very poor tactic especially on heavy ground , seen him cruising in behind horses them tries to find instant acceleration , it never works with these national hunt types , it knows the crap out of them dif on a flat horse with 9 stone , but coming up a doddle to them speed with 11 stone plus takes the guts out a horse , the beast are best encouraged through out a race , and yes i agree given site of the hurdles , his riding is one dimensional , he gets away with it just on better ground but not in these conditions , when they go from cruise mode to all out they always flounder and bottom , i have this theory workrider if u see 2 horses with similar form ie 4 yr old v 5 year old 5 yr old v 6 year olds 9 times out of 10 the older horses win in testing ground , prop because they have strengthened up more !
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I used to be mega keen Geraghty fan but not so anymore but is he getting decent rides nowadays?
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might have to swerve some good mounts now,
JP's retained jockey,I thought. |
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Some are saying he's sold his soul if you get my drift...
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the collector been betting for a while now , am sure some of these jockeys , start to think stuff this am not payed enough to present horses at pace , seen it many times with other jockeys ,
but a few rides like this can actually ruin a horse , as every time they approach hurdles they sense something through the rider , if the jockey does not show confidence it will reflect often on the horses form , as they worry and start to seat up as they reach the track , horses never forget ! |
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yes work i know exactly what u mean , some said that about r dunwoody
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Wow I'm shocked by posts on this thread from some very experienced punters! If you think Geraghty were the reason the horse lost then you either lost money on the race or you only watched it once( which should of been enough anyway)
The reason the horse didn't win was because it couldn't jump and yes I backed it but geraghty did well to only lose by half a length. Five out- again jumped poorly. Four out- poor jump lost 3 lengths Three out- Jockey used alot of horse energy to get to within 1 length but again jumped badly losing ground again. Two out- Again jockey had to use horse energy to make the lengths back up to get within striking distance. Final hurdle- again horse jumped poorly like most of the hurdles he jumped lost lengths again. Lost by half length after jockey tried to get him to win race. Oh yeah forgot to mention that it got got last time by winner by half length off levels, this time was giving it 5lbs. |
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Have a look at it again Lady, tell me how many times Barry gives it a view of the hurdle .
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Got a view at the other hurdles, don't mind jockey using his head and trying something different (might of worked) unlike dickie yesterday.
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He had it up the arse of the front 2 till turning in , horse picked up when seeing daylight ,lets just say it wasn't Barrys finest moment .
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We watching same race? Barry was pushing from 5 out never was it going well and on top jumped liked a pig!! Like I said great ride to get second imo.
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I gave my bet up 5 out couldn't believe he got so close.
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Cradle Mountain was never gonna win that race but equally, Barry is not the same jockey as he was last season.
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Before turning in the horse came back on the bridle,Barry let him stroll along instead of kicking on after he'd got up a head of steam ...
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JMDC,
In your opinion, if geraghty is worse than last season would he had won on cradle mountain today as it only lost by half length. |
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No-one would have won on Cradle Mountain today ladyc.
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Workrider,
Imo it never came back on the bridle  Even in the write up it says from 1st to last hurdle it didn't jump. |
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JMDC I agree.
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Johnny Burke said after the race that he was always gonna win.
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Again I ask you to have a look ,after jumping the 3rd last it closed right up, without been asked a question by its rider ..I'll leave you with that , good night and God Bless...
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I have and barrys arms are shoving no way is the horse on the bridle, Goodnight and may the punting gods be with us tomorrow.
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Johnny Burke wasnt riding in the race
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some interesting views i will say this if he had not slowed the horse into the last 2 flights it wd have won , and yes a strong jockey wd have got up , no it ain't a natural jumper , and wd prefer better ground , but that last flight cost it for sure imo
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sorry for the confusion when i said bridle jockey i ment his riding in general lady
he was trying his hardest after the last , but if you look at the race again i am convinced him slowing the horse to pop the last cost it 100% |
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All opinions but mine is if you ask a horse that can't jump for a big one at any flight you will end up on the floor! Don't know geraghty stats for being on the floor but I don't see him there very often.
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i take your point but ruby or mccoy wd have went for it that;s what makes them champions
think the horse is screaming 2.4 miles and better ground , when u look at its last run it finished like a train , maybe blinkers wd help the horse ! but being careful does not win races with all due respect they are well payed for the job they do and yes its a dangerous game ,but lets be honest these are hurdles lady , and horse was not out on its feet , but agree about its jumping needs brushed up , |
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he has been indoctrinated into the JPM way of going about their business principles..and i thought that Barry as such a nice lad.
.theres been some very strange an unexplainable ride of late |
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Who would I have my horse geraghty walsh or AP? Tough one, geraghty made me the most money out the three, defo AP lost me the most money out the three and walsh has done me out the most accs in my life
 .AP was champion so many times for how many rides he had, people always remember those never give up rides but out of 20,000 rides you will get a few hundred of them. Walsh, love him apart from the accs he costs me, going back to asking a horse for a big one at the last is why he has done me out the accs especially well clear! Going back to the horse in question he was giving weight in very bad ground, be interesting to watch its next race. |
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i hear you lady annie cost me thousands
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