Nicholls next stable jockey

Sean Bowen is already there and I was surprise Noel didn't get the gig last time it was available

sean bowen is hardly riding for nicholls, in fact he's hardly riding for anyone apart from his dad

Dec 5, 2015 -- 4:47PM, Swardean wrote:

Sean Bowen is already there and I was surprise Noel didn't get the gig last time it was available

Noel's a very good jockey, but is touching 40 and Nicholls (wisely) looks toward the future with his stable jocks.

I rate Sam, but snapping up one of the younger Irish lads would be a coup.

Nicholls reminds me of Mau Utd when Fergy retired....Skelton And Fry have left him and he has not got a real Superstar....... So he will sack the Jockey as that is the sort of guy i think he is.

Man Utd even.

I mean dont even mention Sean Bowen in the same breath as young Sam ffs......At least Noel Fehily is all Class.

I agree think Fehily is class, but one who would fit the bill for me is Townend. Being edged out of
the Mullins operation with all the young Mullins coming thru and Ruby has another few years riding.
Would think the cap fits, I am not saying STD is a bad jock but would prefer Townend myself.

I agree think Fehily is class, but one who would fit the bill for me is Townend. Being edged out of
the Mullins operation with all the young Mullins coming thru and Ruby has another few years riding.
Would think the cap fits, I am not saying STD is a bad jock but would prefer Townend myself.

STD is dog sh*t, no judge of pace weak as pish in a finish and ginger to round it all off

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Townend is good, but to replace young Sam?......Not In A Million Years In My Book.....sweetnsour just rolled in from the Football Forum.

I don't think Nicholls will admit he is wrong over STD. STD is a good jockey but he's more suited to his dad's horses than Nicholls' horses.

Not sure how the ginger would affect his riding unless it frightens the horse
anyway this game is about opinions and would give my vote to Townend.

Victoria Pendleton has more idea than STD and she's just started riding

Only kidding sweet.

I'm not sure there is any reason Townend would leave WM. PFN made a big mistake not taking NF but did Noel want the job. Very difficult for a young jock to make it with PFN imo.

who said std is on his way?

could think of 4 ruby, DJ, De and Pw Mullins where would Townend be in that pecking order and
he knows it, thus any leading trainer who would be looking for a top jock could not go far wrong
by giving him an offer. STD in my view is still learning his trade and will improve but Nicholls
needs a top jock ASAP

townend would never leave mullins, and I,d be surprised if nicholls is looking for a new jockey anytime soon?

I must admit the thought also crossed my mind today that Sam will be on his way sooner than later. Apart from Ruby, PN doesn't mind changing jockeys fairly regularly.

To be fair to Nichols he is under fierce pressure as every trainer is from owners, if I was an owner
with Nicholls I would prefer a more seasoned jock like Townend and this puts pressure on him.
Whereas TDavies has the luxury of letting STD cut his teeth so to speak and take the hit. Again STD is a decent jock
learning his trade but not top notch currently.

No need to blame jockey.
The yard is just not quite firing.
These things happen.

top Jocks make it happen whether it is presenting a horse to a fence or having a clock
in your head you need a top jock STD is currently learning his trade

Std is bad..rides horses like he's on a rocking horse...would have thought that p Townsend style would suit but Paul's friendship with std father will give std more time.

Agree with Saxon Farm there - The Nichols yard just seems to be having a quiet spell - and when the horses aint feeling it no jockey good or bad is going to bring them home

A good few nicholls horses going out like a light today.

sean is better than townsend and sam both poor in a finish and sam hybitually holds horses of the pace even in better class races u cant give good horse tha much ground to make up , when their is cut as well every horse is 6 len behind leaders an nothing left at finish

amazing how std always get in the neck, what about all the ones what were well beat today at aintree ridden by schofield not a mention about that.

schofield not up to the grade fashion

Horses totally out of form all of a sudden. Ptit Zig or Al Ferof might be different today but I think Wishful Thinking is great value to beat them.

never been known 15 losers in 1 day.nicholls will bounce back,henderson had a poor season last year.

Horses totally out of form all of a sudden. Ptit Zig or Al Ferof might be different today

This is getting silly now, Al Ferof isnt even in the yard anymore.

Sam looked like a panic appointment before someone else got him, thought Fehily would have been the ideal choice at the time and suspect Nicholls now regrets not going for him.

Some rubbish on here. Townend will be Mullins no1 in the next few years so no chance of him moving. As for Willie appointing one of his nephews ahead of Townend? No chance, he is ruthless and he has huge regard for Townend and nepotism will not be a factor there.

Agree with Bigwill re Townend and WM will will pick whoever he believes to be the best jockey. PT has had a lot of success with the current arrangement and probably wins more grade 1s than nearly all jockeys apart from RW and BG - even more than R Johnson.

The best 3 or 4 jockeys will all retire over the next few years - Walsh, Geraghty, Fehily & Johnson but not overly impressed with many others already touting their trade - one or two exceptions who are conditionals - they might gain rapid promotions

It is amazing how different opinion can be - I can't stick Nichols but I feel Sam T-D is a fine jockey and have no problem with him. Today he got Ptit Zig into the race of sorts but Al Ferof was far too good end of story.

Could probably name 5 other jockeys better than Johnson Geordie, outside of the 4 you've said...... in Ireland alone

Cooper, Townend, Russell, Burke, Carberry. He ain't among the best, even when he wins the title this year. He's completely agricultural.

The difference between Johnson and all those named is that rarely will he be accused of never giving his ride every chance.

Townend, Burke and to a lesser extent Carberry avoid criticism for their respective waiting tactics when it goes proverbially t**s up.

If they win a brilliant ride but when they do not then silence.

i thought sam got the job cos he was dating megan nichools.

Sean obviously not up to the job now and probably never..if he can grow out of his "I am the man" attitude it could be sheehan

problem is with sean is that harry cobden is now getting his rides

townends probably paid a fat wage to work at willies his input is invaluable to the yard, much in the same way as seamie is to coolemore, happy to pick up a ride on a stable star now and again, why would he want to travel up and down the uk with moody pumpkins ?

Fashion Fever     07 Dec 15 00:20 
problem is with sean is that harry cobden is now getting his rides.

And that's because Sean Bowen has lost his claim, whereas Hary Cobden can still offer Paul Nicholls the bonus of weight off the horse's back......It's deja vu all over again.

Not only has Bowen lost his claim now too but he did it far too quickly and how old is he anyway, 17 or 18? I'm surprised those who have guided his career have allowed that to happen really and if ST-D goes to the main meeting and Nicholls either had a 2nd string or runners at the alternative meeting, is he likely to put Bowen up over someone like Geraghty, Fehily or Walsh or him over Cobden if he (Bowen) can't taken any weight off the horse?

The main way I can see Bowen getting rides for Nicholls is if they are at the bottom of the handicap and a more experienced jockey can't do the weight, yet how often does Nicholls have runners in the big handicaps at the bottom end of the weights?

Apologies for my comment about Al Ferof. I hadn't realised he had moved until the morning of the race and did wonder why Nicholls had given the ride to Harry Skelton!

geordie says the top 4 or 5 jocks will be retiring soon and the likes of swt,bowen ,moore etc will be riding more winner ,they wont be anymore capable than they are today but because there riding more winners than there juniours people will be saying x jockey isnt as good as swt etc,funny old game
bit like ch 4 racing channels etc fawning this season over dickie but common sense tells you he isnt as good today as he,s been in the past ,just not taking on mcoy now ,which isnt a reason to judge whether someones a better or worse rider

Ruby Walsh rode the Cheltenham bumper winner at 18 years of age, he rode two grand national winners before his 21st birthday. He was already poetry in motion at that stage in his career, he had a natural talent that comes along about twice a century. Sam Twiston Davies is older than that already and wouldnt lace Walsh's boots now and never will either. Twiston davies is as good now as he ever will be, he has more than enough experience garnered at this stage so saying he will improve is basically a crock of shiite.

carnt understand the criticism of Johnson?..fine jockey and will be a deserving champion, townend is a class act! the irish will always have more talent than us as they are put on horses when there still on there ma,s boob?

Johnson is an excellent jockey, the only British rider who isnt a negative in a championship race at the Cheltenham festival.

I wouldn't trade Johnson in a driving finish for anyone.

was only 2 weeks ago that nichols was singing swt priases on ch 4 saying he,s riding with condifence,no one better from the back of the last etc, poetry in motion during them 50 odd chasers at chelt he couldnt win on bearing in mind he,s doesnt ride many rocking horses there

doesnt quite make up for the ground he,s lost at the previous 20 fences, maybe a composite of fehily to set the pace,revely to jump the fences and dickie to drive them home, LOL

If its possible, he could be even better over fences than hurdles, hes certainly as good.
Ruby Walsh is probably the best rider of all time over jumps, there have been hundreds of Sam twiston davies.

I think consistency is lacking amongst many jockeys. They are all very capable at times.All capable of great rides, generally when I have layed their mounts!

Can't see anything on this thread that supports the view that STD is on his way out, other than Nicholls having a quiet patch.
Any evidence at all?