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http://www.ownerbreeder.co.uk/2015/12/the-fightback-starts-now/
Donald interview.
Donald interview.
Someone always starts stupid threads like this. A jockey could ride 40 woeful races and then get a winner, and it's guaranteed someone will start a 'where are all the 'insert name here' knockers now' thread.
given my share of stick to donald but a few of his have defo run better in the last week or 2
fortunate winner today but askamore beat the others pointless...tricky horse that just wanted to do it for the fkin brilliant brooke
fortunate winner today but askamore beat the others pointless...tricky horse that just wanted to do it for the fkin brilliant brooke
There's no question, the yard's horses seem to be running a lot better these last couple of weeks. That's welcome news for McCain, his staff, his owners and all true jump racing enthusiasts.
It doesn't however alter the fact that McCain has suffered a major reversal of fortune which started 2-3 years ago and a significant slump in form in October and November. There do not appear to be any horses of quality left in the yard and it's difficult to see how McCain will ever be able to recover the ground that he's lost and return to those heady days when he was being touted as a serious rival to Nicholls and Henderson as leading jumps trainer.
It doesn't however alter the fact that McCain has suffered a major reversal of fortune which started 2-3 years ago and a significant slump in form in October and November. There do not appear to be any horses of quality left in the yard and it's difficult to see how McCain will ever be able to recover the ground that he's lost and return to those heady days when he was being touted as a serious rival to Nicholls and Henderson as leading jumps trainer.
Even in the days of peddlers overturn and cinders if you looked beyond those horses there wasn't the quality in depth there, since then though the bread and better day to day stuff has dried up also culminating in owner abandonement.
Dont know if this post refers to his winner at Rasen, would have been 30length 2nd if the leader hadnt fallen at the last
Wins an egg & spoon race round Market Rasen where only one other horse finished and he's back lol................
The McCain knockers are probably on a beach in Bermuda....
He has the 1/3 favourite in the first. Anyone brave enough for 3k-1k ?
Looks a 1/8 shot to me.
Looks a 1/8 shot to me.
Great to see the stable back amongst the winners again. Plenty has been said on here over the last month or so.. What can he do when they ain't running to the line ? Close stable or carry on as Jr has.. No easy answer for sure
one McCain runner this weekend, once upon a time he would have a runner in every Aintree race.
this deva racing is some outfit, they have a total of ten in training with the Donald, talk about spreading your risk. I do note, all ten are pointers the Donald would have purchased out if Ireland, so he may have kept an interest in each horse, and that may be the stumbling block for removal for the syndicate. mind all ten are mickey mouse midweek horses like the two winners in the last 24 hours.
you would need some neck to be trying to sell a syndicate horse out of this yard at the moment.
this deva racing is some outfit, they have a total of ten in training with the Donald, talk about spreading your risk. I do note, all ten are pointers the Donald would have purchased out if Ireland, so he may have kept an interest in each horse, and that may be the stumbling block for removal for the syndicate. mind all ten are mickey mouse midweek horses like the two winners in the last 24 hours.
you would need some neck to be trying to sell a syndicate horse out of this yard at the moment.
Afternoon KL, talking of McCain horses at Aintree, one of his ex inmates runs tomorrow for Oliver Sherwood. Could be anything.
duffy 04 Dec 15 00:25
Even in the days of peddlers overturn and cinders if you looked beyond those horses there wasn't the quality in depth there, since then though the bread and better day to day stuff has dried up also culminating in owner abandonement.
You left out his Grand National winner too Ballabriggs but I take your main point that he had a few decent ones but never really the strength in depth compared to Henderson and Nicholls.
Probably part of that is due to big owners spreading their horses between several trainers and those up north maybe get overlooked a little, so for every Ballagriggs, Cloudy Lane and Wymott Donald McCain got, the likes of Albertas Run, Burton Point, Hedgehunter, Many Clouds and Trabolgan went to other often southern trainers, and McCain himself has even had to compete with other northern trainers like Tim Easterby, Nicky Richards and Sue Smith for horses from big owners like Trevor Hemmings.
McCain has had a decent enough level of success with his better class of horses, it's just that he hasn't really had enough of them to further make his mark. Compare that though to how things generally were under his father and Donald Jr seemed to really have brought the yard on during his involvement there.
Even in the days of peddlers overturn and cinders if you looked beyond those horses there wasn't the quality in depth there, since then though the bread and better day to day stuff has dried up also culminating in owner abandonement.
You left out his Grand National winner too Ballabriggs but I take your main point that he had a few decent ones but never really the strength in depth compared to Henderson and Nicholls.
Probably part of that is due to big owners spreading their horses between several trainers and those up north maybe get overlooked a little, so for every Ballagriggs, Cloudy Lane and Wymott Donald McCain got, the likes of Albertas Run, Burton Point, Hedgehunter, Many Clouds and Trabolgan went to other often southern trainers, and McCain himself has even had to compete with other northern trainers like Tim Easterby, Nicky Richards and Sue Smith for horses from big owners like Trevor Hemmings.
McCain has had a decent enough level of success with his better class of horses, it's just that he hasn't really had enough of them to further make his mark. Compare that though to how things generally were under his father and Donald Jr seemed to really have brought the yard on during his involvement there.
KL, you would know me about the value of its points win
Huehuecoytle, the BF that finished 2nd to Donald McCain's second winner today was previously with McCain where it ran once for him and won before being moved on, having previously being well beaten in its other run for James Ewart who also used to own it before the Rooneys.
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