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Racing needs to wake up who else is going to sponsor them its a declining sport don't bite the hand that feeds you.Gone are the days when horseracing was a major sport.Just look at snooker believe me soon there will be saturdays without it just look at bbc now on a saturday.
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i'm like you, i really cant see who will step in and in an industry already struggling badly for funding where the excess money will come from
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The idiots running this sport are so out of touch with reality , that they believe a game of brinkmanship with the bookies was a good idea .......it's not 1975 , horse racing is a smaller and smaller player in the world of punting .....clowns.
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I hope most follow the analogy but if you're a young woman looking for a lover and Hannibal Lector smiles then you walk away. You may not get a shaag that night but then again you won't get eaten either. Extending the analogy racing is currently in an abusive relationship with the bookies who are beating their chests and bellowing that racing won't find anybody better. Maybe not. Racing should have dealt with the bookies 40 years ago. Doesn't mean they should stay with a partner who is going to continue abusing them. If you've got cancer. Cut it out.
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Try emailing RP, RUK or ATR for their opinions...they won´t read it out or answer it. total media blackout on the subject as far as I can see - don´t want to offend their partners...
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Who says there won't be other sponsors - the repulsive glove puppets at the Racing Post and lying bookmaker PR frauds.
This is the Cheltenham Gold Cup, and Peter McNeile was spot on when he said that other sponsors would be interested, imho - Epsom have proven it can be done, and Cheltenham is a far better sponsorship, opportunity. As someone said earlier, if Rust can hold his nerve and not blink first racing will finally have the bookmaking industry on its heels, imho... |
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Why does horseracing think bookies owe them something?People bet on all sports it confuses me?
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Exactly. They want to stand firm and let the bookmakers be the ones who end up in-fighting. Which is what happened over Turf Tv. Once one major bookmaker weakened and went for it the rest had to follow.
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One reason is skygreenzone is because horseracing is put on at times to suit the bookmakers and enable them to make lots of money.
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TheFear, the fact that we are reading so much about this issue in the totally biased Racing Post is because the bookmakers are very worried, imo - the problem for racing has always been that the cowards who run this sport have always folded first.
Rust on the other hand is a commercial animal through and through, and understands the importance of these marquee sponsorships on showpiece occasions to these companies, and he's going to be a surprisingly admirable adversary for them, imo (the bookmakers are now starting to get stuck into him in the media, which is a great sign)... |
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Skygreenzone that's absolutely ridiculous you must be easily confused
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They may well find blue-chip companies in respect of the flagship races but it's the next tier down where it might hurt the BHA. Finding sponsors for 'big' Saturday races won't be easy given that the main exposure is only on Channel 4
Falling viewing figures isn't exactly a good advert for getting new sponsors on board |
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Which is why they should seriously consider returning to a marquee station. If ITV genuinely are interested they should bend over backwards.
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I'm sure the BHA would love it to go to ITV given the right deal on the table
The problem is that hasn't been available yet |
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Nick Rust will have a sponsor lined up already , perhaps someone ( who will take a bet ) will open a book on it.
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Nick Rust will have a sponsor lined up already , perhaps someone ( who will take a bet ) will open a book on it.
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A big problem must be ever-increasing overheads for the shops,and across the counter business struggling.Presumably one of the reasons for the merger of Quarrels and Sadblokes.The cost of running a retail shop ,and making it pay,is very difficult in these times.As shown by various household names hitting the skids over the last 10 years or so.
As we all know it is only the FOBT's that are keeping many shops alive,and many inner city MPs are strongly against them,and want stakes reduced right down to a small level. Many shop staff only earn minimum wage,so wage cuts are out of the question,so it will be interesting to see the outcome of the ongoing Levy and sponsorship disputes regarding contributions.It was suggested over a year ago that bonuses and incentives for punters would have to be cut. What is certain is that the waters are getting very choppy,and stormy times ahead. |
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More propoganda from the Bookmaker Post: William Hill could end King George sponsorship
They won't have any choice,,, |
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*Propaganda
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http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd?event_id=13425724&category=0
Key thing missing here is how much do WH save by NOT paying levy on offshore bets? |
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Do you know anyone who refers to the race as the 'William Hill King George V!'? Thought not.
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What do you call that big race coming up this weekend?
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That's because they have sponsored the race for ever like the old Whitbread and Schweppes.that is the advantage of long term sponsorship rather than just dipping in for a couple of years
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I agree with you. But the King George will be trending on twitter over Xmas they don't sponsor it for philanthropic reasons.
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I remember working with an editor in the 90s who was sent a very expensive bottle of Hennessy X.O., purely by coincidence of course, a week before the Newbury race. He was always something of a prima donna but to be fair to him, he flew into a rage shouting "do they think they can buy my support" before taking the bottle outside and smashing it into pieces in the car park.
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The shameless front page 'article' in the Racing Post this morning, placed to support William Hill's agenda to continue to circumvent paying levy to the horse racing industry by holding a gun to its head over sponsorship, was a total disgrace, but as William Hill are almost certainly shareholders in this 'newspaper', no one should be remotely surprised, imo...
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More "balanced" reporting from the racing post today. Lengthy whinge by Fred. Apparently he has paid 140m in the last 4 years. Fortunately he can afford it as it looks like they made nearly a BILLION pounds in just 3 years. Perhaps the Rancid Post reporter forgot to ask that question.
Manchester based bookmaker Betfred has reported £593 million in profits for the 18 month period from March 2013 to September 2014, up from £362 million for the previous 18 months. |
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RP siding with their advertisers against racing. RUK and ATR sitting on the fence. I fear without the active support of the racing media, from whom the sponsors get most of their publicity, the ABP initiative could fail. Then Rust and co would have to go...and the future of the sport will be fecked.
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Horse racing still accounts for 50% of non-FOBT turnover in betting shops.
In other words, the shops would disappear tomorrow without it. |