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By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 17:53
on me laptop
By:
roida
When: 12 Nov 15 17:54
nb..keep up with the wild guessing.
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 17:55
and Kelvin Hall ( and speaking of Arnie - the name of the bloke who played the Predator) will feckin lose.
By:
roida
When: 12 Nov 15 17:56
you will know doubt get 1 right before long you sill leek hunt
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 17:57
its not guessin, its brainy workin. and much safer than laying 1000's and backin 1.01's matey. How's the plastering job going? Most work you right arms seen in a long time I reckon.
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 17:58
ah.. how I will miss the interlectual banter... Laugh
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 18:00
yay... just another 38 winners to go...
By:
stridingedge
When: 12 Nov 15 18:02
How do you decide which other ones to lay in the races lex ? You say you try and get the favs done below BFSP but sometimes will lay another one in the race?
By:
stridingedge
When: 12 Nov 15 18:04
I don't know how the hell you get matched on enough

you've done very well to make this last.

I'm amazed that there are not 'too many' others trying to do exactly the same thing (ie nick some in play off the %BFSP favs)

liquidity in play is shoite now too
By:
BET-MACHINE
When: 12 Nov 15 18:06
GL to you if you can make it pay,

Does seem quite an effort to lose £50 in 12 days though
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 18:06
when you see the fav is going to come home then lay one that obv isnt. or dutch it with one outside of the bookies mark up. there's many ways as I ve told you before. Also when you miss a match staking and managment is key. Most try to stake to recoveer the loss. You dont, only the spread.
By:
stridingedge
When: 12 Nov 15 18:09
when you see the fav is going to come home then lay one that obv isn't

what odds are you laying the one that 'obviously isn't going to win' Laugh
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 18:09
it has been a bit of a drag to be honest for the past few weeks. But look at the figures.. sure Ive lost a bit - but  Ive also turned a 240% profit in 10 days. The trick is keeping it! Can usually double a bank within a month though.
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 18:11
liquidity is a prob is youre betting like Roida in ££KKK's. If your happy making a 100's and a bit of fun (not like today mind) then its fine.
You can make 10% of your bank most days.
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 18:16
what odds are you laying the one that 'obviously isn't going to win'

just enough to lower the liability. You can see whats happening just by watching the odds flick around. if your liability is say 100 you only need to lower it by a tenner or to make the spread required. Its easier than it sounds.
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 18:21
I'll be laying Khaleesy at 1.75 in a minute.
By:
stridingedge
When: 12 Nov 15 18:22
please don't say told you so if it gets done we all know eventually a few favs will get beat Cry
By:
stridingedge
When: 12 Nov 15 18:23
I would trial this 15% on a thread but you do other stuff so it cannot be tested
By:
ZEALOT
When: 12 Nov 15 18:26
you double your money in a month ?

come on lex - 5% per month , compounded is worth 80% on bank in a year , which is absolutely brilliant .
And you double it in a month ????
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 18:26
I dont need to. the fact that I'm laying below ISP ( or reducing to the same effect the liability) is all that's required.

It drifting so may ease the bet a little..

I dont think I can test it to be honest as its a method rather than a ridgid system. and posting would be seen as aftertiming really.
Thats why I tend to post just prior to the off when I think the numbers are pointing to a fav losing.
Maybe a video of a days work would do it.
By:
stridingedge
When: 12 Nov 15 18:26
1.75 IR is a big % lEX
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 18:27
Yes. double ya munny.

striding legs. thats why I'm easing the bet a little..
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 18:29
anuvver bleedin fav. un believable. you goto laff..
By:
stridingedge
When: 12 Nov 15 18:30
I cannot follow your rules mate

so I wish you luck
By:
stridingedge
When: 12 Nov 15 18:31
and yes we are due a spell of favs losing soon LaughWink
By:
ZEALOT
When: 12 Nov 15 18:32
Lex - please explain sir , youve lost me .

say the next fav opens up at 3.05 , what do you do ?
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 18:37
ta.

and Ive had enough of this beating to I will return tomorrow.

btw - do you keep records of the results? if you feel inclined plot the strike rate in a graph over 28 days. then take a random 28 day period and then another.


Zealot. You lay it with a liability at approx 15% of industry starting price. 3.05 ISP = 2/1 = 2.7 which is only a few ticks. The average fav is 2.75 and most under 3.5 will shorten by 15%. if they dont, then stake to get back the spread not the whole loss. But never lay a fav much bigger than ISP. it will bite you.
By:
stridingedge
When: 12 Nov 15 18:41
lex I've looked at tens of thousands of observations of favs over the past decade

I know there is no pattern to them

but obviously if you keep saying the next one should lose it will eventually
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 18:45
actually thats not what I say at all. and youre not making the right observations. look at the peaks and troughs and the frequency of the cycles. You will see a pattern. Even today will be in the pattern which will emerge of the next few days when the strike rate settlesdown to the mean once more. My guess is about 10 days.
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 18:46
You can plot the ISP of the favs as well, you will get a similar picture.
By:
stridingedge
When: 12 Nov 15 18:47
so if you can predict these cycles why don't you only play when they are in your favour LEX ?
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 18:50
Mean reversion? yes I do some of that and the longer the cycle sample the more accurate it is, but the less you bet. A cycle  of 20 works quite well.
On balance I go for high turn over. Plus I love betting.

anyways, g'nite. makes sure the bed bugs dont get ya.
By:
stridingedge
When: 12 Nov 15 18:50
the logic of your laying at below SP is of course extremely sound, if achieved consistently enough this MUST yield profits.

the cyclical and predictive elements of the distribution of favs is complete guff

if 47 favs win in the next 100 races it doesn't mean this bias will be reset within the next 100 races
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 18:51
no. it will be a bit longer than that, probably closer to 300

nite
By:
stridingedge
When: 12 Nov 15 18:52
good night
By:
BET-MACHINE
When: 12 Nov 15 18:52
the few times I've been in a casino you'll see a character noting down the numbers coming up on the roulette wheel.  On the basis that there must be a pattern. They don't look very happy.
By:
Lex
When: 12 Nov 15 18:55
Dont get me started on casinos.... horses aint nuffin like casinos (fixed odds) you cant win with fixed odds, you just get lucky.
Bookmaker events are a completely, and literally, different animal.
By:
stridingedge
When: 12 Nov 15 18:55
lex thinks that the bookmakers can determine 'false' favs to reset the pattern

this is the biggest thing I have disagreed with
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 12 Nov 15 19:03
geez.... lex......
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 12 Nov 15 19:05
saturday was a cracker....though
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