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VIEWING FIGURES for Qipco British Champions Day at Ascot on Saturday fell by 34 per cent compared to last year as the £4 million raceday attracted a fraction of the viewers for Bargain Hunt on BBC1.

Channel 4 reported a record low average audience of 367,000 for live coverage compared to last year's figure of 557,000.

Saturday's rating for a marathon broadcast from 12.30pm to 4pm was 67 per cent less than the 1.1m average achieved by the BBC in 2012, the corporation's last Champions Day.

Channel 4 is seeking to win a new racing deal from 2017 and gave Britain's richest raceday an unprecedented amount of coverage with all six races shown live following a special edition of The Morning Line that included Frankie Dettori, new champion jockey Silvestre de Sousa and an interactive audience.

However, the afternoon show, which peaked at 530,0000 viewers (equivalent to a 6.1 per cent share) had a smaller average audience than the previous two Saturdays, with Future Champions Day getting 411,000 viewers and Cambridgeshire day 398,000. The Morning Line averaged 186,000 viewers.

BBC1's Saturday afternoon presentation of the world amateur boxing championships, on air during the racing, was more popular than the Ascot fare with 500,000 watching, while the edition of Bargain Hunt that competed with the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes and Qipco Champion Stakes had an 800,000 average.

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By:
harry callaghan
When: 19 Oct 15 17:56
doesn't surprise me - considering channel 4 persist with cunningham harping on about the form book

when will they learn that this is not everybody's cup of tea... if we wanted this all the time we would just watch racing uk

zero camaraderie and a poor excuse for a racing channel
By:
Blackorred
When: 19 Oct 15 18:07
I am quite IT savvy but would love someone to explain how they know how many people watch a program? Or am I just missing something? Also how do they know how many people are watching it on any given TV?  We all were in my house on Ruk of course is that taken into the viewing figures account.
C4 has lost the plot and viewing figures with stream after stream of fence sitting, jockey loving , public hating et etc etc egomaniacs of which the latest have the most dreadful of the lot in Mick Fitz. Why oh why ??
By:
chelters16
When: 19 Oct 15 18:16
Dreadful coverage of racing in general on CH4 ,only watch it in the most dire situations when cant access RUK or god forbid ATR and the dreadful mark chapman what a ****.
By:
ONSLOW1974
When: 19 Oct 15 18:28
The trouble with showing a complete meeting is it is too long between races
for the casual viewer.
A 2 hour programme with races every 10-15 mins is better imho.
Plus there was no Frankel.
Plus Cunningham & Fitz do peoples heads in!!
By:
oneyallbeenwaiting4
When: 19 Oct 15 18:28
seems to be a trend now, after every meeting we read how C4 figures have plummeted, its not at all surprising when actual racing fans cant even suffer the program never mind the general public

they tried to appeal to a wider audience, gok wan, fashion, clare balding etc, and only served to pissoff the viewers they already had

only great horses can attract non racing fans, just make a racing program for racing fans and when a horse comes along the interest will happen naturally
By:
truehoncho
When: 19 Oct 15 18:43
I'm afraid I have to agree with the criticism. The morning line was difficult to watch and the coverage in the afternoon was nonsense at times. With viewing figures consistently dropping surely they need to change things.
By:
patches
When: 19 Oct 15 18:55
I don't think it's just channel 4 , it's more horse racing in general , this forum is very quiet compared to a few years ago , the betting shops take a fraction of the bets they used to , I'm sorry but it's a dying game as the old ones pass away the younger ones have no interest at all in horse racing , probably the Cheltenham festival is the only thing left .Sad
By:
Racingqueen
When: 19 Oct 15 19:03
Anyone who thinks mick fitz is suitable for to is clearly incompetent

C4 just give excuse after excuse.......they would would even come up with something if the figures were zero
By:
chelters16
When: 19 Oct 15 19:03
Patches l agree that betting shops are dying but online betting must have more than made up for lost shop revenues(even withouut fobts),l wonder more about actual attendances at meetings,my local track Hamilton still does very well and l see little difference in numbers from say 20-30 years ago.
By:
posy
When: 19 Oct 15 19:07
I was there on Saturday and was most surprised that throughout the afternoon the annual members' trackside room had unused tables .I've frequently been to meetings when that hasn't been the case.When I ventured out to the paddock it wasn't as rammed to the gunnels as i'd anticipated it would be so would be interested to know how many people were at the racecourse and a comparison with previous years.Have to say though the car parks seemed crammed full.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 19 Oct 15 19:08
C4 Racing needs Matt Chapman.
By:
Racingqueen
When: 19 Oct 15 19:09
But patches why do youngsters have no interest?? There is far too much low grade garbage and no one criticises jocks or trainers.....

Who would find fitz blowing wind up jockeys holes entertaining.

Compare to the premier league where players managers are frequently hammered
By:
harry callaghan
When: 19 Oct 15 19:23
POSY

"However, we are still surprised by the figures, as we believe Qipco British Champions Day is worthy of a larger number of viewers, especially since we recorded our best attendance on Saturday [30,967] since Frankel's last race in 2012, reflecting great interest in the day.

"Channel 4 introduced some terrific innovations, including the interactive Morning Line and new drone coverage, which is really encouraging and we must build on that when we return to the correct slot in 2016."
By:
jrw
When: 19 Oct 15 19:26
Harry do you work for ch4?
By:
eightbo
When: 19 Oct 15 19:27
Channel 4 to blame. Action required
By:
harry callaghan
When: 19 Oct 15 19:35
no it's written on the racing post page jrw...

i so wish i was on the gravy train though, my mercenary approach may lead to a total channel melt downGrinstill got to be better than listening to cunningham rant on about what a saturday punter has no interest in listening to, never mind a royal ascot punter who tunes in once a year
By:
posy
When: 19 Oct 15 19:53
Many thanks Harry...I was wondering whether the attendance was affected by the rugby ;as I wrote the carparks were full but the stands weren't uncomfortably crowded.
By:
sixtwosix
When: 19 Oct 15 19:57
Enjoyed the races , good quality cards ....apart from a ludicrous ill suited handicap at the end.

But  , I watched the races after the football and rugby , fast forwarding to the races .

Racing was always my fav sport , but I cannot abide the modern presenters , who are clueless in my opinion and I have no intention of listenimg to their drivel.
By:
MJK
When: 19 Oct 15 20:19
C4 decided to aim their racing program at 'newbies' instead of keeping actual racing enthusiasts interested in their show. Now they've lost a lot of their original viewers and aren't attracting any new ones. The Morning Line was supposedly started at the time to preview that afternoon's racing. Now we're lucky if they preview one race in the first half of the show. But they've plenty of time for slimebag bookies reps. Just like they'll no doubt have Nicholls and/or STD on every two weeks they seem to think having Dettori on it ad nauseam will attract viewers. Same dislikeable pundits, same smarmy Luck presenting who goes totally ott for everything, same ridiculously long ad breaks. It's time C4 racing was put to sleep.
By:
The Pinhooker
When: 19 Oct 15 20:27
Sixtwosix. Thoroughly agree that modern day presenters and pundits are the reason why so many viewers,such as yourself, find horse racing so unbearable to watch on television.

The professional racing fraternity likewise think they are a waste of space so the C4 marketing advisers persistently get it completely wrong in aiming for an urban audience who have no real instinct for what is fundamentally country sport.

Nothing is likely to change unless Middle East and bookmaking advertising revenue dries up in which case racing will probably disappear from our screens forever.
By:
homefortea
When: 19 Oct 15 20:31
Feck me who watches Channel Four apart from freaks..

And when you tune into the programme has been taken over by them..

You know the rest but I am still wondering who is transgender - as the rest of the minorities are covered...
By:
triumphoragony
When: 19 Oct 15 22:21
There is nothing wrong with c4 coverage of racing...the truth is that BBC will ALWYS get bigger audience viewers no matter if they showed two 90 year olds playing tiddlewinks and c4 had live s#x....
By:
lingbleed
When: 20 Oct 15 00:28
Have to agree with what racing  queen said , people love controversy and there is no such thing as bad publicity  ,people love watching awkward moments on tv especial the younger generation , so if a jockey makes a mistake grill the fecker after it , cause some heated moments , i'll guarantee it will be big new's the next day .Like racing queen said who doesn't love seeing a manger chucked under the bus after a bad result , am sorry but it sells and it gives the media some thing to run with and milk .
By:
sageform
When: 20 Oct 15 06:46
If you have RUK,6ou watch it so any analysis of audience numbers needs to be included.
By:
salmon spray
When: 20 Oct 15 09:59
Champions Day is a poor imitation of Arc day and the Breeders cup. They should forget it and give the Champion Stakes back to Newmarket.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 20 Oct 15 10:04
the early start didn't help...just felt like things were dragging on and on...Muraharer lit up the show but really the whole thing was generally flat...no surprise with the other sports on people found something better to do with their time.
By:
Outpost
When: 20 Oct 15 10:24
racing has had a regular audience since it began hundreds of years ago but the current generation are now losing interest and the upcoming generation have little or no interest in it at all.

the racecourses wrongly assume that sticking a concert on after racing will attract more people to racing.
meanwhile the folk who do enjoy racing are staying away in their droves from these drunk fests which only have racing as a sideshow.

while greedy courses make extra money out of these booze ups, they are not attracting even one more person to racing. 
the concert drunks don't bother with the racing and are only there waiting for the concert to start. 

meanwhile regulars who would normally bring their families are avoiding these fixtures like the plague and so the courses are effectively cutting off their only supply of future customers.
By:
The Pinhooker
When: 20 Oct 15 10:46
Outpost. Spot on.....and C4 simply encourage such a culture.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 20 Oct 15 10:54
chelters16 19 Oct 15 18:16 Joined: 02 Jun 10 | Topic/replies: 757 | Blogger: chelters16's blog
Dreadful coverage of racing in general on CH4 ,only watch it in the most dire situations when cant access RUK or god forbid ATR and the dreadful mark chapman what a ****.


Was never a fan of Lennon, but still a disgrace ATR giving the man who shot him a job.
By:
Diff-rent
When: 20 Oct 15 11:13
Weekend was busy with alternative sporting events. Also does having champions day in mid October really work ?  Even Hills Jnr said the champion sprinter had gone in his coat.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 20 Oct 15 11:24
BBC ditched --The Open golf 2016

you know viewing figures will plummet SKY SPORTS

not because the quality of the players
people have to use disposable income in a targeted way

It's the way sport is now -better or worse
By:
fluffchucker
When: 21 Oct 15 21:45
BBC probably glad they ditched it as they got more viewers for the amateur boxing!
By:
Arklearkle
When: 22 Oct 15 00:27
One problem is that Champions day is a a staged event with a lot of overhype but dont worry proper racing returns shortly.
By:
fluffchucker
When: 22 Oct 15 17:01
Champions day is meant to be flat racings grand finale so if nobody's watching it on terestrial TV then surely not good for the sport long term?
By:
wondersobright
When: 22 Oct 15 17:02

Oct 22, 2015 -- 12:27AM, Arklearkle wrote:


One problem is that Champions day is a a staged event with a lot of overhype but dont worry proper racing returns shortly.


Cool

By:
Barton Bank
When: 22 Oct 15 17:24
The sport is absolutely dying on its arse due to declining public interest.
Channel 4 viewing figures are just a symptom of this.
By:
fluffchucker
When: 22 Oct 15 20:45
Surely Ch4 racing are the shop window for UK  horse racing. If they aren't  getting the footfall then maybe its time to change the window display?
By:
unbiased
When: 22 Oct 15 20:45
The public love to watch utter tosh progs with DYSFUNCTIONAL FAMILIES(soaps),and other rubbish like British Bake,Strictly,I'ma Hasbeen,that is the way it is.These progs get very high viewing figures!!!
This presenter,that presenter,it doesn't make one iota of difference,as racing is just for us aficionados.
Duracell must be doing well,as we search night after night for something decent to watch.
By:
Oasisdreamer
When: 22 Oct 15 22:38
I would imagine the folks associated with GB Racing are reviewing their positions....given the way Champions Day is now unfolding. 

Aside from getting lucky with Frankel they've messed around with the end of season Pattern calendar almost to the point of destruction.
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