Gleneagles

And wins comfortably

Agree with Swardean

Yes runs and Wins.

They're running him as it is a big day and big sponsors yeah right as if they give 2 sh!ts about sponsors

I'm a big fan of this horse but connections have kept him away from soft ground for a reason and its case of their hand being forced here. Maybe his class will see him through?

After listening to the Trainer i would be far from confident......Never heard him so downbeat about a horse.

Solow all day long for me on this ground

With doubts about the big two in the betting and surely eased down if it doesn't go well

The RF/c at 7/4 is a very tempting lay

gleneagles willl win this

solow wins!!

thank you

lol

Listen. It's too soft, oooh, ahh, no, we'll take a chance...ooohh he's the best we've ever had....Gerrupouttadat O'Brien!

fling it in the bin

Now gleneagles value will drop. Aidan comments suggested he didn't want to run him.

horse is a dog

Minor injury found and retired NAP.  What they should do is run him in the breeders cup.

Oct 17, 2015 -- 2:39PM, vinnie_roe wrote:

Now gleneagles value will drop. Aidan comments suggested he didn't want to run him.

He's been put under enormous pressure to run the horse today because the horse missed the last couple of engagements. Now maybe people who were criticizing him the last couple of times for not running the horse will hold their hands up and admit he was right.

The going is absolutely vital to some horses, as it very much is for Glenegales.

No I don't agree.

They should have run at Goodwood, it was better ground than today and they would have known where they were with Solow.  If they had of run at Goodwood they would have known to bypass today (ground too soft) and go straight to the Breeders Cup.  A royal feck up since Ascot.

they did really well imho to get the cotton wool off b4 the start of the race

A lot of fuss - and for what? They have done well to win two classics, with a horse that is just not that good. At some point he had to do it on the track and he failed. The hype machine which the stable stokes up with the help of an unquestioning media, had him built up like others before him, as a superstar. More Cockney Rebel than El Gran Señor.

WALKS

pandora1963 17 Oct 15 14:34 
gleneagles willl win this


the worst tipster in history...is this bloke ever correct?  WAC

I don't know why he's been aimed at classic. He's not bred for it and the mile on gf is ideal.

real good horses win on any ground

I used to think that....Not anymore.

Won the 1st 2 races then lumped on gleneagles instead of jack hobbs...glad jack hobbs got beat :)

just a prep for america. will go and win on his favoured ground in a couple of weeks time

I still think he's over rated ,his head carrige was a concern as well ...

the ground was hardly a bog.

If you were a breeder wouldn't you prefer to use horse who is ground versatile? rather than a horse who needs firm in the title?

Can understand good horse not going say in heavy ground , but good to soft a great horse should cope with easily.

Or he maybe just not as good as people thought?

With the English weather if your horse cannot cope with good to soft going you are going to be pretty limited with your options.

exactly, when I say any ground I mean any reasonable ground, so excluding extremes of heavy or concrete.

If there was any soft in the ground yesterday, Clever Cookie would have hosed up.

Anybody who backed the horse must be a mug will be placed in the classic.

Oct 18, 2015 -- 11:26AM, Platini wrote:

exactly, when I say any ground I mean any reasonable ground, so excluding extremes of heavy or concrete.If there was any soft in the ground yesterday, Clever Cookie would have hosed up.

Clever Cookie lost because of the ride Mr slow motion gave it. Do you think it was well backed because there was no soft in the ground.?

It was a poor ride on CC (went long way round) so that didn't help either.