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SHOCK,THE FAV GETS AWARDED THE RACE,UTTER DISGRACE BUT NO SURPRISE.WILL BE REVERSED ON APPEAL.
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either corruption or the US and/or FR stewards were brought in trying to determine imaginary running lanes as if this is a 100/200m human sprint!! This is a race over a long distance and there are no fraking lanes, common sense needs to be applied and think that there was also a horse near the rail who would've been smashed if the horse in the middle hadn't moved his position.
What shambles the US and FR system that promotes weak horses in favour of the legit winners of their races. No sport does that and yet I hear on the damn ATR the Kevin bloke keep saying how his selection Free Eagle should've been given the race because FR and US rules are so idiotic that they promote horses in 3rd, 4th to the winners spot. Well Kevin you may do that if 1) the jockey is at blame, 2) if there is a strong contact between horses and 3) if there is sufficient reasons to believe it would've passed the rightful winner, finishing 2-3 lengths behind doesn't give anyone any reasons to think that so yes what happened last month with Secret Gesture was also INSANE... |
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factmachine im assuming by some of your posts youre a course bookie just a quick question as i havent been to a racecourse for a few years do you or any other course bookmaker pay first past the post im only curious.ty in advance.
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23.NO,CANT THINK OF ONE THAT DOES!
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ok m8 tyvm
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23... We do sometimes. (including today.)
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I can think of one and their joints are mostly pink
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o ok radgepot you just decide on the day.
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WILLIAM HILLS DO,BUT AS U KNOW THEY TAKE VERY FEW BETS
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Its a disgrace betfair don't pay first past the post,every other online bookie does,and before you accuse me of talking through my wallet youre right!
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Best horse won , simple as,unlike at leopardstown .....
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Perhaps, but should that ever be justification causing interference and subsequently getting away with it?
I talking in general terms, not specifically about today's race. |
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*justification for...
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Simple verse would have won with clear run,so best horse won justifiably
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I just watched the race again and I'm firmly of the belief it was a disgrace.
The best horse went across the line first. Yes there was bumping, but it was as much from Bondi Beach as it was from simple verse. Basically a lot of barging and scrimmaging but Bondi Beach still had every chance to go past the winner. I reckon he might just be ungenuine. He had every chance to go past Storm the stars as well last time out. Seems to be unlucky once too often. Plain and simple the stewards have dropped a clanger there and if the connections of the unlucky filly can get put up a good representation on appeal they have every chance, and really should, get the race awarded to them. But even if they do the whole sorry incident leaves a sour taste in the mouth. |
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As I said, I was speaking in general terms - and that is there should never be anything in the rules that should suggest to jockeys that as long as "they're on the best horse", any interference will be excused.
Imo, we need to get out of the situation we're in now, whereby jockeys are walking back to the weighing room, and trying to justify the interference they just caused by saying to the interviewer: "I was on the best horse". |
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WHY?
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Because you're then saying to jockeys, as is the situation currently 99.9% of the time, that so long as you win by more than a nose, pretty much anything goes - and that is compromising safety, encouraging gamesmanship, and weighing the rules too heavily in the favour of the OFFENDER!
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HAD THE BETTING ON THE TWO HORSES BEEN REVERSED AND THE FAV HAD FINISHED FIRST PAST THE POST,THE RESULT WOULD HAVE STOOD,FACT!
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bONDI BEACH WAS PENNING SIMPLE VERSE IN A FURLONG OUT,HE WAS FAIR GAME TO ME,INTERFERENCE IS NOT JUST 100 YARDS IN
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The game is fast becoming the equivalent of La Liga, jockeys diving trying to get others booked. Half ton machines and we are trying to turn it inot a non contact sport.
Bondi Beach got beat up by a girl today. |
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Sos about cap locks
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IT HAS GOT THAT BAD THAT EVEN THIS SITE WITHHOLD PAYMENT UNTIL THE WEIGH IN IF THE FAV IS BEATEN LESS THAN HALF A LENGTH,THE STEWARDS ARE A DISGRACE!
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Offender and victim are words that don't really apply in this case though are they? I mean they are both guilty of barging the other. Bondi Beach was trying to keep the filly in, a legitimate riding tactic, but she got out and he wasn't strong enough to keep her in.
Then when she got out he still had a chance to go past her but couldn't, what you could do was hit Andrea with a ban, but don't reverse the decision for god's sake. The more I think about this disgrace of a decision the more it disgusts me. And not pocket talking, I backed Storm the stars so it matters little to me which of them won. But this is a classic, not a seller at Market Rasen. The stewards had to be completely certain that the "interference" affected the result. The result will stand forever in the history books, and Simple Verse's name should be in there, not Bondi Beach. |
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Well said Lewisham
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Surely there's a good chance they will get it on appeal?
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Should I appeal to betfair then?
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duffyg, no point in appealing. However what you should do when you back a horse on Betfair is leave a 1.01 lay. (Apologies if you lost your money in running.)
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Good point but betfair pay on official result so when simple verses connections get their appeal(and they will) will I get paid?
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I don't think the BHA want results being reversed as it costs them money as it hits the bookmaker profits, who obviously pay out on both results, so I think there is a chance the BHA will reinstate the filly to teach the Donny stewards what they're meant to be doing, imo!
Shahdaroba and Islesman being 2 examples of horses who were reinstated on appeal, when the stewards had arguably been correct to disqualify them in the first place. |
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Simple Verse deserved to lose the race for one reason only, the complete ineptness of the rider in the stewards room. He completely shamed himself in the room and the case he put forward would not have been dissimilar to a 2yo child.
You just knew it was up for grabs after both jockeys spoke, O Donoghue excelled and Atzeni showed himself to have the brain of an ant. |
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Lewisham ranger the result was a 100% the right decision. The jockey is a complete cabbage...look at the ride he gave battersea the day before...he got himself in a similar position and made a balls of it to
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Lewisham ranger the result was a 100% the right decision. The jockey is a complete cabbage...look at the ride he gave battersea the day before...he got himself in a similar position and made a balls of it to
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JIMEEN THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT "SHAMED THEMSELFS" WERE THE STEWARDS THEMSELFS,UTTER DISGRACE!
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If this had been a minor race at Lingfield the view would have been :- "A bit harsh, but I can see why they've done it". Apart from connections, and people not savvy enough to get paid first past the post.
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Atzeni gave them every chance to throw it out and they did. If O Donoghue rode the original winner, then he wouldnt have lost it in the room.
If they are going to appeal they would be best advised to get a sick note for Andrea. |
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IF THE HORSE THAT FINISHED SECOND BEEN A 33/1 SHOT,THE RESULT WOULD HAVE STOOD,FACT!
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The best horse lost because of the jockeys eloquence? Come on
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If my auntie had balls she'd be my uncle
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