Billy Newnes ????

Yep.

He may have wonif he hadn't mistook the 1/2 furlong marker as the winning post

Another lawnmower for you Billy - well done

Billy Knew

He would never have got past Mccoy anyway. I do think Mccoy would have won on any of the 1st 4 home though. The difference in jockeyship was massive but then we knew that anyway.

4-day ban apparently

Billy , dont be a hero ..

not even mentioned by ATR

FFS could not be more obvious, AP set up to win, nothing said on ATR about BN ride and stopping, oh, and starting again after taking a look at AP and where the line was!!!

   Delta !

Billy stopped riding but would NOT have caught the winner in any circumstance

I thought it was the late Brian Taylor who was accused of receiving a lawn mower from Bardsley. Newnes had to make do with a gift of £1,000.

Be very surprised if atr even bring this up

you are right screaming but from memory it was the same individual handing out the "presents"

I think from memory it was Harry Bardsley from Glossop who was handing out the gifts.
FFS Newnes told him Valuable Witness needed give in the ground only needed a form book Harry could have saved yourself a grand

Yep, it was a punter called Walter(?) Bardsley who was handing out the presents. Newmarket jockey Nigel Day was accused of receiving booze from Bardsley too.

I didn't watch as flat racing is not for me. Is this the same Billy Newnes who was done for corruption or is there another?

That's it. Harry Bardsley. Over 30 years ago now.

Harry BARDSLEY
Birthdate:     September 15, 1916
Birthplace:     Droylsden, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death:     Died March 2006 in Lancashire, England
Place of Burial:     Lancashire, England

Brighton form is the strongest anyway as we all know.....

Just given it a mention on ATR - put it down to being ring rusty.  So nothing to see here, let's move on!!

A touch of the Jibereen's there 1995 Declan Murphy....

I think Boxer Billy is  Punch Drunk.

Billy Newnes knows where the winning post was..

Could never find it in front though..

Scouser that could make a bit extra allegedly...

was 2L down when he momentarily stopped riding..would never have won.

good evening onlooker

i never knew he had died.

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Billy , dont be a hero ..

Don't be a fool with your life...

They should ban all the jockeys in that race,that should sate the stewards bloodlust and stop the harassment of the current jockeys.

Kelly Harrison stopped riding for 4th too ..

was 2L down when he momentarily stopped riding..would never have won.

I don't think the issue is whether he would have won (almost certainly not). The worry is that, at 35 mph and several horses wide of McCoy, he couldn't have been sure that he wouldn't win.

he couldn't have been sure that he wouldn't win.


he made a mistake..he thought the half-furlong pole was the winning post (dont know wherther they even had half-furlong pole's when Newnes was riding)...nothing to do with whether he was sure he wouldnt win or not

..and anyone that thinks it made more than, say, a neck difference (ie no way would he have won) is barking imo

Next Stop came from out of the pack to get into second, this after starting off racing up the stands´ rail and Billy Newnes stopping riding in the final furlong. Given the route the filly had to take, she did well to finish where she did. The stewards held an enquiry and were satisfied that the rider had obtained the best possible place, and they noted his explanation that, due to his current level of fitness, his legs had become fatigued in the closing stages.

Newnes got banned in the 1980's and on his first ride back at Ascot rode the two year old filly Chili Girl for Mrs Heinz. The same John Dunlop stable also had the very hot favourite for which there was fortunes. Unfortunately for the fav backers Chili Girl was still in front inside the final furlong but luckily the wobbly legs cut in on Chili Girl and the fav went on to win!!!!

Poor Billy having to suffer from jelly legs for all these years
Should get down to Jack Berry house and get this problem addressed immediately

jack'an'ory house...said before the race 'still riding out and keeping myself fit'..

He never mentioned "jelly legs" when he was being interviewed before the race on ATR.
In fact he did say "I ride in these types of races all the time in Germany"......

Jellylegs my arse.......Should have gone to specsavers.