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What Horse would you liked to have seen run from years gone by ?
What Horse would you liked to have seen run from years gone by ?
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I always like to see Sundew one of my favourites winning The 1957 National after having backed him in the two previous years. Then the race was run on a Friday. I listened to it on the radio at work.In the years after I backed Wyndburgh who never did get his head in front.
After the race one of our directors came downstairs from a board meeting and asked me who had won. He had backed it as well and his name was a horse of the future.. Denman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owJfg3j8rV8 |
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Golden Miller , Tudor Minstrel and Sceptre
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Not sure about Golden Miller. Five Gold Cups is five Gold Cups but the Gold Cup was not what it is today. Winning the same trial for the Grand National five times sounds a bit less impressive.
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Frankel in the QA - for obvious reasons.
Detroit in the Arc - I was there for the first time and told the world and his brother he would win. Offas Mead - One for the oldies. A run of the mill sprinter who I used to follow (for whatever stupid reason) and won at few juicy prices including 20/1 and 16/1 in consecutive races (or maybe the other way around). |
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In regards to Persian War John Banks lost a lot of money laying him when he won the Champion H'Dle for the 3rd time
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Soba
I remember soba very fast sprinter running in the late 1960s |
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Tudor Minstrel -- 2,000 Guineas demolition similar to Frankel.
Eclipse -- as in, "Eclipse first, the rest nowhere". |
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ive seen both Frankel and Kauto Star run many times.
Would luv to watch them again  |
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seaside 29 Aug 15 19:00
Soba I remember soba very fast sprinter running in the late 1960s I believe Soba ran in the 70s/80s... started off in sellers... |
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She never ran in the 70's or a seller
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Howard you are right, just look it up lol, she was born in 79.
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not so much a horse but an era. would've liked to watch all those top chasers of the early to mid80s - wayward lad, burrough hill lad, silver buck, forgive n' forget, dawn run, badsworth boy etc. seems like a great time to have been a NH fan
then again i was fortunate to see kauto, denman, imperial commander, master minded and, slightly earlier best mate, moscow flye, well chief and azertyuiop not so fussed with the flat, but i'll go for secretariat, amazing in the preakness (think it was the preakness?) |
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it was the Belmont Stakes, and yes, that was truly amazing
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thanks the bloob. always had thought it was the belmont but thought i remembered looking it up last month and realising that it was the preakness
getting old, memory going  |
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arkle v flyingbolt for me - and throw in best mate , so that we can compare the different generation
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SOBA, the extraordinary sprinting filly who rose from rags to riches to be crowned 'Queen of the North' in the 1980s, has died at the age of 25 at the Yorkshire farm where she was foaled.
The winner of 13 races, most memorable among them the 1982 Stewards' Cup, was put down after becoming ill at owner-breeder Muriel Hills's Lane Side Farm, near Bram-ham in West Yorkshire, the place where Soba's remarkable story began. 'She was born here and she died here,' said Hills. 'She had become a bit of a creaky old lady, but she had been in good health until last weekend when she wasn't quite herself. At first we thought it might be colic, but the vet said it was worse than that, so we had to put her down. 'She was a wonderful mare who had a great life and gave us so many wonderful memories, which we will always cherish.' Despite her modest background and a particular dislike of a saddle, Soba was skilfully produced by trainer David Chapman to become one of Europe's top sprinters and, but for the presence of the outstanding Habibti, would have been an outright champion. Her career took off aged three when, with blinkers applied in an effort to atone for some disappointing efforts at two, she got off the mark at Thirsk at 33-1 under the man who was to become her regular partner, David 'Dandy' Nicholls. It was the first of 11 wins in 1982, a year during which she rose up the handicap by more than 4st. The high point came undoubtedly at Glorious Goodwood, where her victory was achieved against all odds. Just 17 days earlier, her run of six straight wins - the first five in five-and-half weeks - had come to an end when she was beaten at odds-on at Ayr and walked away slightly lame. The bookmakers' ante-post favourite was removed from the Stewards' Cup lists, but a back problem was successfully treated by physiotherapy and she made every yard of the running from the supposedly unfancied number one stall to win at 18-1 and, in the process, smashed the six-furlong course record at the Sussex track. Recalling that triumph and her career yesterday, Chapman said: 'That was a very big day because she'd been favourite for such a long time. Drawn one, people thought she had no chance and that let the pressure off a bit. 'She wasn't easy to train. She could bronk [buck] for England. You couldn't get a saddle or a roller or anything on her. Anything around the ribs she didn't like and she detested bikes. If she saw a bike she just went mad, but David [Nicholls] managed her all right. 'If it hadn't been for Habibti she would have been champion sprinter. But she trounced us every time we met, although Soba wasn't beaten far in the Prix de l'Abbaye, when she raced with stitches in a joint after a turbulent flight. I didn't see much of it because of the bad viewing at Longchamp and I never got a video of the race. 'Habibti didn't train on and I half wish we'd kept Soba in training, but we had agreed a foal-sharing arrangement with Robert Sangster and retired her. I trained one or two of her offspring, including Soaked, a grandson, who has done well for me but shows the same traits.' Soba's final season featured two more wins, including the Group 2 King George Stakes at Goodwood, and no fewer than four seconds to Habibti - in the July Cup, Vernons Sprint Cup at Haydock, York's William Hill Sprint Championship and the Abbaye, in which she was beaten a length. Nicholls said: 'She gave me many happy days. She put me on the map at a time when I was scratching around for a living. Winning the Stewards' Cup was a great day, but, for me, the highlight came at Longchamp. Habibti kept beating us, but Soba so nearly got her that day. 'She was quite a difficult ride and a tough bugger. Twenty five is a good old age.' |
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Persian War winning his first Champion H'Dle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eev5QAkEhF4 and his last Champion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLKepud6fQQ |
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seeing persian war in action still sends shivers down my spine
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my choice would be the obvious from the national hunt arkle and from the flat nijinsky he seemed pure class.
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“the unconquerable, invincible, unbeatable CIGAR.”
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I saw Nijinsky win the Derby I was standing on top of one of the tote buildings, I remember it was a hot day.
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Sea Bird
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I would also like to see EKBALCO, I was there when it sadly fell and died at the last fence at newcastle when coming to challenge Gaye Brief..
Ran similar to Harchibald with exaggerated waiting tactics.. |
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i would of liked to have seen greville starkey start his run a bit earlier on dancing brave at epsom .....thats for f kg sure
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One I went to see but didn't:-) We booked last minute to go to America in 1981 and I wanted to go to the Preakness to see Pleasant Colony run and hoped it would at least pay for our air fares.
We got late to Pimlico and the place was heaving and you could only shuffle around surrounded it seemed by drunks and pickpockets. You could not get a good viewing position, you could not see a horse in the parade ring for the crowds and the lines for the betting windows were miles long. We gave up and took a cab back into Baltimore where we had an early dinner and listened to the race on the radio in the restaurant. |
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I would have like to have seen Istabraq "run" in the 2002 Champion Hurdle.
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If Jamie Spencer had ridden Dancing Brave the media would be falling over themselves telling us what a great ride it was and how unlucky it was that Jamie had finished second - thankfully things were different in 1986
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bankit cant remember but i dont think g.starkey ever sat on a k.abdullah horse ever again i know obv pat eddery took over on dancing brave.
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Broadsword was always my favourite. One paced in the highest company but I used to get nervous watching it because I wanted it to win so much.
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I know I have already had a go, but I would like to see Cawston's Pride's 1970 debut again.
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Zafonic
Has there ever been a better one? Makes all the others look one paced. And what about Falbrav unstoppable on hard? There are some horses that just couldn't be beat. And the above are just two fine examples. Yep Next  |
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now that was a fast 2yo blackbarn;one of my favourites in those days
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Posy, some 2yo season that!!! CP, Mill Reef, The Brigadier and My Swallow (who was top rated!!)
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Cloister winning the 1893 Grand National under 12st7lbs by 40 lengths carrying 34lb
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Carrying 34lb more than the runner up.
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kincsem
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St Simon
Supposed to be a GREAT |
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Hackler's Pride (nap)
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Flat definitely Dancing Brave for me, someone earlier in the thread said he was overrated, I couldn't disagree more. Without a doubt my favourite horse of all time.
NH See You Then - not saying he was the best hurdler ever but remember 1986 CH watching him cruise round the last bend and gallop away up the hill. |