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Have to agree about Bolton dogs zipper. Raced a lot of mine there, you could have a thousand on back then with Maurice Lindsay.
They always used to say if it can't do the grading time at Bolton then put it on Belle Vue! |
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I can remember racing taking place at Manchester racecourse in the early sixties, it was to the outskirts of Salford, a fair way from Manchester City centre itself.
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barstool maurice was on the board at Wigan rugby club so say he was the major share holder but that aside bookie take today closed accounts and all that jazz
Maurice would stand any bet for grands more if he did not fancy it top guy do you remember Johns Mansion ... |
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The name rings a bell was it a grader or open racer?
I certainly remember Springwood Mickey mopping up all the Northwest West opens back then, there was a lot of cloak and dagger stuff going on back then. Geoff De Mulder used to run a few on Bolton as well as Charlie. |
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I played football on castle Irwell in the mid eighties do you know if theres anything left of the site now ? |
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I believe it was sold to Salford University who have built a student campus on it. Going back a few years you could see a bit of the old track and railings off the western part of the M60, not any more.
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now you say that about Salford university I remember somebody else telling me that barstool I never went to Salford dogs I believe it was very popular with its 5 dog races,went the odd Friday afternoon to white city that was very quiet.
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barstool re DE Mulder and Charlie .. ran plenty at Bolton but you got to remember the Bolton Derby was worth 10 grand to the winner 1975 .....
re Johns Mansion ..he was a pet knew andy very well thats the owner but had no papers so could not run NGRC ..... Harry Thorpe said he was the best flapping dog he ever graded ...and Harry was the grader for 30 odds years at Bolton the boys after racing had a few laughs and drinks in the bar them were the days |
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Always brings a tear to my eye entering Wolverhampton as you walk past a house built on the very spot where a John Manners 40/1 shot fell in the lead at the last in a selling hurdle.
![]() Used to like the sprawling old track there, with the ramshackle stands and the Baluchi Bar. |
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the boxing day card at Wolverhampton always staged some novice hurdles where the Christmas money could be got. |
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Hard to beat Baldoyle on a St Patricks day , Johnnie Roe on a 2yo for Connolly first race of the flat season , a 3 mile hurdle race Orient War the winner ,ah the memories..
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zipper, I remember Harry Thorpe well, did not like the bloke though, he called everyone coc k. Got on much better with the handicapper at Blackburn John Dutton much better. Used to race on straw there in winter. Peter 'o Dowd was the manager at Preston (now at Romford).
Best of all was Alec Broadbent at Blackpool, would always oblige with a good mark if he knew you were struggling a bit, this was when the Boyle family owned both tracks. Great days, never to be repeated alas. Still we were there when it was at it's best and for that I am thankful.![]() |
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rye house dogs was an old fav,close finish and one of the books would shout '6/4 a dead heat'
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workrider 24 Aug 15 17:59 Joined: 29 Jun 02 | Topic/replies: 21,053 | Blogger: workrider's blog
Hard to beat Baldoyle on a St Patricks day , Johnnie Roe on a 2yo for Connolly first race of the flat season , a 3 mile hurdle race Orient War the winner ,ah the memories.. Was that the Orient War owned by John Banks, the Glasgow bookie? |
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Eastville stadium once housed Bristol Rovers and a BAGs track-the only dog racing I ever attended. I was taken to Eastville as a child to watch Bristol beat Man UTD in the FA Cup and in the next round they lost to Preston including Tom Finney! They demolished the whole place and built a shopping centre in its place.
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Would love to have seen Taunton dogs in the 1960s and 1970s. Dave Pipe snr (David Pipe's grandfather) was both promoter and bookmaker, so no conflict of interest there.
The dogs ran around the perimeter of the cricket field at the County Ground opposite the old cattle market in the town centre. They paraded in what is now the car park, but at the time was the cricket nets, which must have been interesting for the cricketers the next morning. |
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leicester used to have a dog and speedway track at blackbird road/parker drive now houses http://www.defunctspeedway.co.uk/leicester.htm
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I was at the last Cardiff greyhound meeting.
played rugby against Warwick Uni inside Wolverhampton racecourse. Our coach driver got Brahms and Liszt so we spent the night at the uni. I also played cricket at Taunton. |
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The very same Screaming , won at 1/3 if i remember correctly.
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I remember eastville and my only visit there was also against united at easter the season they were in division two ,
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Coincidentally, I was trying to remember the name of Bristol Rovers old ground - whilst we were having a pint last night.
I said it was the worst ground that I had ever been to - and on the day that I went it poured down all day - making the Greyhound and Speedway track, around the outside, look a right mess. I did, eventually, remember the name Eastville. |
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Towards the end have you any idea how many bookies actually bet there with their own money?You'd be surprised if you knew as one gentleman from over the hill didn't just put the money up for his own pitch & you would be doubly amazed at one of the pitches he was running. |
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No, sorry I have not. You will have to enlighten me.
![]() Used to see Alex Murphy and John Spencer there quite a bit. Fair bit of money on the track back then, especially the last two races on the card when the open class dogs were running. Fond memories. ![]() |
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managed to go the last folkestone and hereford meetings in the same december, of the two i preferred folkestone although it was more run down than hereford at the time..was a regular at catford dogs in 90s when lived in london, was surprised to hear it closed, was living abroad at the time - what did they do with it, houses? don't think hereford or folkestone will ever re-open
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Catford was same as last time I was over Gordon63, toteboard and entrance still intact and no development in progress, that was a while back though, we need Slippy or someone from the area to update how it is currently.
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As mentioned earlier, White City for those memorable Derby Final nights and of course, Walthamstow for almost any Saturday or big final night - nothing but fond memories...
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when i lived in Westcombe Park in the 60s frequently went to the dogs at Catford and Charlton...Anyone remember wide running Newgrove Toddy at Catford which was a well supported track in those days;Charlton however lacked atmosphere and seemed to me to be a 3rd division track.
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barstool your post yesterday 18.27 re John Dutton a very fair guy if you played fair Do you remember Eddie Thomas was the grader at White City Manchester when it closed had a spell at Bolton last i heard of him he had a paper shop in Sheffield
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Tony Morris was laying four figure bets at Charlton even in the 60s.
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when the news broke Hereford was permanent Folkestone was just for a couple of years until things were sorted out,well from what I see nobody is interested in Folkestone the locals the council and arc have given up,hereford however is ticking over with a bit of arab racing and whilst I agree its unlikely either will reopen the more likely of the two would be Hereford. |
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Don't miss Warwick flat much.
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Sorry zipper, I did not know him.
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http://www.britishpathe.com/video/at-dear-old-ally-pally Check out the huge size of the crowd at Ally Pally albeit 1927.
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Hurst Park
Bus from Hammersmith and the ferry over the river to the track. For a young boy it did not get any better. Remember I had 2/6 on a 10/1 chance that won think the horse was called King of diamonds would be interesting if that is correct. Might have been with the away's I had the bet so long ago now. |
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Read what you said about Hurst Park. OMG you might have been in that boat at the same time as me. Can not believe there is someone around still that would have got that boat. Unbelievable |
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barstool you have been a flapper do your remember THE Waterloo Cup talking about gambling bookies Steven Little would lay anything for 5k in a match thats was 1970 ... when the average wage was £30 a week..
.Other top layers John Banks horses and that top judge on the dogs the one only Mick THE Miller the best ever |
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barstool go to google see what a champ this dog was
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bar thats mick the miller
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Seaside we may well have been on the same boat.
Trolley bus from Hanwell to Brentford Half-Acre and another one to Hampton church.Then the rowing boat. Loved the place. The Victoria Cup on the dogged-legged 7f was a much better race than the present one at Ascot. Walter Nightingall was the man to follow in them days. Saw Lester Piggott win the Triumph Hurdle on Prince Charlemange. When I got old enough I cycled all the way and watched the racing over the fence that run along the straight. Wonderful days that have never been equalled. |
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Great memories of Hurst Park, lads. I think though that the Victoria Cup when run there was 1m 2f (incl the dogleg 7f), not the 7f of Ascot today.
I just wish I remembered it as I am told I went aged 8 (1960) but I do not remember it, or Ally Pally which I went at the same time. I remember Brighton though!!!! |