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And finding so much for pressure? No expert, but no other trainer seems to consistently produce horses who find so much under the gun.
Is there a way you can train a horse to be like that? If so, why aren't other trainers doing it?
Is there a way you can train a horse to be like that? If so, why aren't other trainers doing it?
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plenty drop out the back of the screen too thuunder.
most will run from the front and stay a bit further than the trip they are running over, i don't think there is much more to it. If they are well handicapped they stay there if not they might be tailed off running like that. |
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Consistent not a word I would associate with Johnston .
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Probably fair to say that the large majority of Johnston runners arrive at the races very fit.
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a friend of mine who use to be in racing told me that it might be that he feeds the horses with a high vitamin content feed for a period of time and then stops as you cant keep feeding it to them with out affecting their health and then start feeding it again.but this was a view and not fact.but would explain how they run a few bad races then come back into form
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sinnerman - very interesting theory. Presumably a blood test taken during the enriched feeding period would indicate when a horse is likely to be at its physical peak. If true I'd wager many of his better handicappers are back on the enriched feed to run at Goodwood next week, placed back in the 'right' races...
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^ food for thought
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For all his runners and winners he doesnt have many top class horses, when was his last one, Attraction ?
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Only downside with that theory, Sinnerman, is that they're clueless gamblers; not great when the money's down.
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Handtorofe
Midlander....how does that square with your consistency theory!!!! |
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Ibrahima - Nahoodh must have been rated similar to Attraction? As you say he doesn't get many top class horses, though he does lose some of the better ones to Godolphin...
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ThunderRoad 24 Jul 15 16:10
And finding so much for pressure? No expert, but no other trainer seems to consistently produce horses who find so much under the gun. Is there a way you can train a horse to be like that? --------------- BUT - EVERY horse is a separate individual... You simply cannot do JUST that with ALL horses - and ALWAYS get the SAME result. It defies both logic and NATURE. |
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Any horse who shows above average ability can finish up with Godolphin although the stable is financially compensated for the loss.
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Trainer seems to enjoy the Goodwood festival
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Telepathic midlander one horse out of a string of over 200,their horses tend to go off boil when they are very short say below 2/1 like resonant last week.
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Surprise surprise - 6/4 Fav at Newmarket not in the first four!! Form figures of 32 in it's only 2 runs - needs a few duck eggs before it can be backed with confidence!!
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Telepathic any views on his 2 Newmarket runners
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Are some of you guys for real.......every trainer in the land gets beat with short priced horses and Midlander not the only consistent runner in the stable.
The only consistent factor is criticism of MJ from people who couldnt train white mice to sh*t. |
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Only downside with that theory, Sinnerman, is that they're clueless gamblers; not great when the money's down
Obviously didn't see the gamble landed yesterday. |
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Training racehorses not rocket science.
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Simple thought processes and logic seem to escape you so training horses is probably well without your compass.......How about New Caledonia? what fantasy occupies your imagination with this one?
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TheBaron - 12/1 to 9/2 on course in less than 10 minutes.
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Yes thats the one.
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Was overpriced and entered in the gimcrack.
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IS - took a long time for folks to realise it was overpriced. 75 left in the Gimcrack at this stage, you gonna back em all.
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Yes New Caledonia very consistent finished tailed off first time,but horse green as grass so no problem with me.
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Handtorofe
Atlantic Affair......another favourite goes in .....surely some mistake!!this will keep your head buzzing....get another hobby. |
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Cost me. I layed at 12.00 backed down 3 mins before off to 6.4. All the signs of a good gamble.
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Handtorofe :You are the problem!!!!
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Backed Atlantic affair ir after watching Gaye horse pulling like a train thanks
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True blackbarn, is was also entered in other stake races (tho by sales). Epsom is a challenging track to make your debut on imo.
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He had a winner at all 5 courses today.
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ThunderRoad 24 Jul 15 16:10
And finding so much for pressure? No expert, but no other trainer seems to consistently produce horses who find so much under the gun. Is there a way you can train a horse to be like that? If so, why aren't other trainers doing it? Martin Pipe was the first . |
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He has ENLACE tomorrow at 3:15 Ascot and is a 3 year old, will be interesting to read his comments of why he put him in the race and not Mister Universe who was gambled into 12s but not declared for the race.... and ENLACE was last in.
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He doesn't know what to do with enlace, but who would!. We'll see
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42 winners this month,different gear would be amazing if he made the 50 in a month bet that hasn't happened very often!
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He trains them a lot harder than other trainers are willing to do, the 7/8 year old...hell, even a 5/6 year old, only one I can remember is oriental fox and he had a 2 year break
The horses don't last, I was told by a trainer, never buy a Johnston horse from a sale or a claimer, they are burnt out by the time you get them, so he takes short term views with a lot of his horses, he works them hard, some thrive for it, then you get some who don't and that's why he gets pleb of exposed maidens, just don't take to the regime. It's also a contributing factor to him not getting too many top class horses, they can't be trained like that generally, need time and he isn't the type of trainer to give it them, all about winners, not prize money |
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He is having a lot of winners but like yesterday a lot were given soft leads with no pace,even at York where you expect a
good pace his runner given a uncontested lead even though it was as green as grass.British racing seems to be going down the French route where they just race for the last 3 furlongs,sad to see so many horses pulling so hard and never being given a chance. |
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A good post Crewebish I was at Doncaster sales a few years back and was tempted to bid for one of his cast offs
but was told not to which turned out to be good advice. |
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Trainers trains horses to win races shocker!
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