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14 Jul 15 14:43
Date Joined: 08 May 07
| Topic/replies: 11 | Blogger: d*'s blog
I raised an issue 3 days ago about the new site and have had no response as yet aside from "we'll ask the technical team and get back to you". So I thought I would raise it for general info here. I don't use the website much doing most of my betting through the API but with all the fuss I thought I'd take a look and noticed the following:

When a bet is placed with take SP if unmatched, and only a portion of the bet is matched pre go-live with the rest taken at SP, the P+L per runner is not updated correctly to show the impact of the SP placed portion of the bet. An example is linked of the 16:20 at Wetherby yesterday. Next Edition was laid pre-live with the remaining portion matched at SP. The photo shows the correct P+L position per runner on the right via Gruss Software and the incorrect new website on the left.  The error is happening every time this scenario occurs (I have a few other screen shots and will take more today)

Anyone else notice this or has raised it as an issue? I find it amazing that such a basic error can occur at this stage of their site development. It doesn't make a great deal of difference to me, but I can see an issue with a new/inexperienced user seeing the wrong position and then trying to lay off something in running to square up their ledger when actually they are starting from the wrong position. If that's you be careful out there.
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Report swift-tuttle July 14, 2015 2:11 PM BST
I have noticed this as a delay in putting up the BFSP in certain races. This delay never used to happen and makes you wonder what BF are up to in the reconciliation of the BFSP
Report gnashersblackpool July 14, 2015 2:20 PM BST
this error has been there for ages. u have to check the old site to make sure your take sp took has worked.
Report onlooker July 14, 2015 2:31 PM BST
Precisely when were these Screenshots taken?

I notice 'Suspended' on the gruss... Was that 'at the OF' , or Race FINISHED?

Without placing bets and checking - You would assume that A 'What if'  P/L PRE-Race Position could/would ONLY show the position in regards to the PRICE requested - as the SP is NOT determinate at that stage.

If you are saying that your Screen shots are AFTER the SP has been formulated - and the New Site is only showing the P/L for the postion of the bet that WAS matched AT THE PRICE REQUESTED - Then, yes, that is an issue.

I cannot comment further, though - until I see it in action on a LIVE bet for myself.

* ADD - You say - "Next Edition was laid pre-live with the remaining portion matched at SP."

Surely you mean - SMILING STRANGER - that horse being your ONLY RED -
- Whereas - NEXT EDITION is your best WINNER - by a further £130 - on the New Site - yet showing an ALMOST similar amount to the other runners on gruss.

You also say - " The photo shows the correct P+L position per runner on the right via Gruss Software and the incorrect new website on the left.

That cannot be correct - as - If you have ONLY LAID ONE runner - then the Green P/L of ALL the other runners should be IDENTICAL - be that on the New Site OR GRUSS.... and it is NOT on GRUSS on your Screenshot, too.

The fact that the Green figure of the other runners varies - instead of being the SAME - on BOTH your New Site and gruss Screenshots - and most especially the horse Next Edition by £130 on the New Site, compared to gruss - does not help us to put this problem into perspective.
Report d* July 14, 2015 2:33 PM BST
Well glad it's not just me, but how is it that this has not been fixed? I can't think of any other betting site where the status of your bet is incorrectly displayed. To me it is unforgivable as an error in the first place let alone one that has been allowed to exist for ages.

Swift-tuttle I hadn't noticed any discernible delay in putting up the BFSP.
Report d* July 14, 2015 2:47 PM BST
onlooker sorry if the screenshot is not clear. The screen shots are both taken at the same time after the race has finished. I laid the fav separately and had several other lay bets in the race as I employ more than one strategy per race. i can assure you the gruss position is correct. the website position is wrong.
Report d* July 14, 2015 2:50 PM BST

Same issue from the 12:50 Flamingo Park yesterday as another (hopefully clearer) example. Again the races have finished.
Report onlooker July 14, 2015 3:12 PM BST
Ideally - It would be better to see an example where ONLY ONE horse has been Laid.

I will see what happens when I put it in action on a LIVE bet for myself...
- but I will have to wait for an appropriate race... not anytime soon, this afternoon, though.
Report YOMOMMA July 14, 2015 3:13 PM BST
The website might be 4 years old and full of bugs and slow but at least the don't have a nonsensical pricing structure.

Ooops, they do! Laugh
Report freddiewilliams July 14, 2015 3:50 PM BST
1250...yester..........was that race 3rd fav had a problem at start
Report d* July 14, 2015 4:20 PM BST
Sorry onlooker I rarely if ever lay just one runner in a race. How about this example just gone

16:00 Beverley Place market

Old Site after race has finished:

New site after race has finished:

Note the different P+l on the runner Samtu. Old site is correct, new site is missing the portion of the Samtu bet that was matched at SP.
Report Magic__Daps July 14, 2015 4:31 PM BST
The sad thing is with any issues on this site nobody is really that shocked. There have been so many balls ups, that it's just taken as part and parcel of this pish poor site. Luckily though we will all have the problem free exchange+ to look forward to.....
Report basilbrush July 14, 2015 4:36 PM BST
New site full of glitches, very poor.
Report YOMOMMA July 14, 2015 4:46 PM BST
Instead of calling it exchange+ (plus), they should name it exchange- (minus), as there won't be anyone left to use it. Perhaps call it [exchange- (+bots)] as if you do try to place a bet you get jumped instantly by bots.
Report onlooker July 14, 2015 6:03 PM BST
Sorry d* - But your Screenshot examples are NOT making sense -

Perhaps that is why you are not getting other forumites responding in detail.

How are/can you get BOTH RED and GREEN  showing (on the SAME line/SAME horse) 'What If' type P/L (projections?) once a race has FINISHED?... irrespective of whichever site you are using.

I have never seen that - either PRE-race or after race - before, and cannot replicate it either.

I presume that the Beverley PLACE Screenshots that you have posted are another MULTIPLE LAY scenario - as - If you were just Laying ONE horse, then just ONE horse would be Red, and the others Green.
Report d* July 14, 2015 6:28 PM BST
you obviously don't do much place betting onlooker.
Report onlooker July 14, 2015 6:34 PM BST
I did not wish to entice a sarcastic reply.

I am only trying to help - but appear to be the only one, as you also appear to be baffling everybody else.
Report swift-tuttle July 14, 2015 6:41 PM BST
I recognize the fault but, as I said earlier, I have seen my BFSPs kick into the P/L mid-race
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