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By:
democrat
When: 02 Jul 15 10:46
Going back to my previous point. Was the 'error' spotted by AGT staff or sharp eyed racecourse employees ? It sounds as if the action taken was rather swift. Who determined the form of punishment that was exacted ? 'Great fun' to bet at York course adge ? How nice for you !!!!
By:
democrat
When: 02 Jul 15 10:47
Going back to my previous point. Was the 'error' spotted by AGT staff or sharp eyed racecourse employees ? It sounds as if the action taken was rather swift. Who determined the form of punishment that was exacted ? 'Great fun' to bet at York course adge ? How nice for you !!!!
By:
democrat
When: 02 Jul 15 10:48
Oops dodgy mouse !
By:
foxy
When: 02 Jul 15 11:42
good morning democrat

my guess is that jcr was waiting for this to happen.
By:
bbc2
When: 02 Jul 15 12:50
must have been jcr agentsSad
By:
democrat
When: 02 Jul 15 14:45
Tend to agree with you foxy. Wonder how many 'spies' they deployed at the Royal meting ?
By:
democrat
When: 02 Jul 15 14:49
Come on adge expand on your 'great fun' remark - don't tell us you go in for having your face painted !! LaughLaugh
By:
foxy
When: 02 Jul 15 16:07
democrat

whenever the gc turn up its at the likes of chester and cartmel royal ascot and goodwood even the Cheltenham festival to do there field work,they have not been known to turn up at catterick bridge in December or ffos las in January.
By:
foxy
When: 02 Jul 15 16:08
I think what adge likes about York is how easy it is to get your gear on and off.
By:
nothinbutthetruth
When: 02 Jul 15 20:01
foxy

I can only speak regarding the tatts  bookmaker who I bet near for 3 days I am in no doubt it was a mistake


the tatts bookmaker would regularly bet to 1/6th and 1/7th the odds when the rules allowed, so to be in 'no doubt' that it was a mistake is very naïve/misjudged.

I completely agree with OP. if I was ascot management they wouldn't stand at my track again
By:
beatherder12
When: 02 Jul 15 20:21
Wish someone would have stood me down at Haydock park today
By:
foxy
When: 03 Jul 15 08:13
nothingbutthetruth

perhaps I am naïve I see you completely agree with the opening poster who seems to have disappeared from this thread after starting it the way he did.

I wonder if after a long lunch he awoke the following morning wandering what the implications might be when he slips up.
By:
factmachine
When: 03 Jul 15 10:22
AT MOST TRACKS THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE FLIMPERS BET IN THE BEST PITCHES,TAKING THE ROYAL ASCOT INCIDENT AS AN EXAMPLE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE PUNISHMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN TO A BOOKMAKER BETTING IN PICK 80+
By:
HarryHandi
When: 03 Jul 15 10:29
Any bookmaker who bets in pick 80+ is already suffering a self inflicted punishment.
By:
intheknow
When: 03 Jul 15 12:08
afternoon foxy, we've had the gc police at a couple of midweek gaffs over the past year

"how many 10k bets do you think you will take today?"

ffs
By:
foxy
When: 03 Jul 15 12:22
good afternoon intheknow

the first visit we got they asked me how do you supervise the gaming machines.
By:
mmmalushka
When: 03 Jul 15 12:44
good afternoon foxy, you still defending this pair who were caught red handed offering their customers less than minimal ew terms either intentionally or by mistake.
By:
foxy
When: 03 Jul 15 13:03
good afternoon mmmalushka

its not a case of defending them I don't know the facts but in all walks of life people do make mistakes,however I do think its disappointing when a fellow bookmaker hiding behind a forum name comes on to this forum and names two bookmakers like what has happened here.if it was done intentionally then of course I wouldn't defend them and would agree with the opening poster about the punishment not been enough,my main point on this thread is that all racecourse bookmakers choosing to bet e/w on 16 runner handicaps bet at 1/4 odds then it would be impossible to make a mistake,i would have no problem with those who just wanted to bet win only.
By:
mmmalushka
When: 03 Jul 15 13:23
Could,nt agree more with the above sentiments regarding ew betting,however its an open forum and wumpkins took the view that they should be named and shamed.
By:
foxy
When: 03 Jul 15 13:31
that's also fair enough mmmalushka and its the way this forum is, but as wasnot stated earlier on the thread it could be trouble if the accused were to find out who the poster is.
By:
foxy
When: 03 Jul 15 13:32
by the way what is mmmalushka ?
By:
Racecourse Regular
When: 03 Jul 15 13:36
mistake or not this doesn't bode well if it was to make the trade press as the terms on offer in one area at Cheltenham did this year...
By:
factmachine
When: 03 Jul 15 13:43
FOXY,MMMALULUSHKA IS RUSSIAN FOR COMMISSION AGENT,I WILL BE IN THE COMPANY OF QUITE A FEW MMMALUSHKAS TONIGHT AT HAYDOCK,BUT NOT ONE TO BE SEEN AT THE ABBER HARNESS RACING FESTIVALHappy
By:
intheknow
When: 03 Jul 15 13:45
not to be confused with the arber harness racing festival Laugh
By:
foxy
When: 03 Jul 15 13:46
exactly rr another reason why it should never of been brought up on an open forum.
By:
factmachine
When: 03 Jul 15 13:55
INTHEKNOWLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
factmachine
When: 03 Jul 15 13:56
I WILL PASS ON YOUR REGARDS TO MR HESTON!
By:
democrat
When: 04 Jul 15 22:38
'Adge getting his gear on and off easily at York' ? The mind boggles !!! Happy
By:
nothinbutthetruth
When: 04 Jul 15 23:27
foxy

good afternoon mmmalushka

its not a case of defending them I don't know the facts but in all walks of life people do make mistakes,however I do think its disappointing when a fellow bookmaker hiding behind a forum name comes on to this forum and names two bookmakers like what has happened here.if it was done intentionally then of course I wouldn't defend them and would agree with the opening poster about the punishment not been enough,my main point on this thread is that all racecourse bookmakers choosing to bet e/w on 16 runner handicaps bet at 1/4 odds then it would be impossible to make a mistake,i would have no problem with those who just wanted to bet win only.


the rdt software sets the place terms for their users as 'traditional standard'

100+ bookmakers at ascot using rdt software and only two of those 100+ bookmakers perhaps received an erroneous default place setting. technology doesn't work like that im afraid
By:
Black Sam Bellamy
When: 05 Jul 15 00:37
I thought one of the two mentioned books was caught paying out only the win portion of winners where the bet placed was an each way one ?
By:
adge
When: 05 Jul 15 09:49
that was a cheap ring bookmaker's son at glorious goodwood a couple of years ago , sam . he was suspended for the rest of the week.
haven't heard as such with this case
By:
foxy
When: 05 Jul 15 11:16
nothingbutthetruth

point taken I really should not be trying to defend racecourse bookmakers most of them deserve all the stick they get some off the things I have heard and seen recently makes me realise the sooner there are non left the better.
By:
wasnot
When: 05 Jul 15 11:24
I'm shocked at that statement foxy Shocked

Still plenty of decent ones where I bet.
By:
intheknow
When: 05 Jul 15 11:37
I detect a little irony from foxy this morning
By:
foxy
When: 05 Jul 15 11:39
just two examples from Friday night at haydock wasnot

bookmaker betting on the 2nd row in the newton stand has a freeze on his equipment rdt technician trying to sort it out nobody stood on the joint 5/4 shot on his board 1.97 to lay bookmaker from the front comes running over not to advise him to unplug his board but to ask for a 500 to 400.


bookmaker betting in tatts 14 /1 on his board 15.5 on machine gets asked for a 500 /35 answer is no why did he have to 14s on the board ?


other recent things I have seen is money finders giving threats out to bookmakers if they bet in certain places.

bookmakers betting on the front row at royal ascot when they don't even have a pitch in the ring.

shall I carry on wasnot on an open forum ?
By:
wasnot
When: 05 Jul 15 11:51
Someone asked me for a 500/35 on fri night after I'd just dropped the price to 12s.  Was that you foxy?  I'd just laid 1400/100 EW on the other pitch near the rails.  If you'd identified yourself I'd have bet you as well if it was you.
By:
foxy
When: 05 Jul 15 11:54
wasnot

I didn't go to haydock Friday night.
By:
foxy
When: 05 Jul 15 11:54
can I add that's a very fair answer wasnot.
By:
houdini
When: 05 Jul 15 12:17
I still think to give them the benefit of doubt I reckon they have looked at the place market seen it is  104% and assumed that they must be able to go 1/5  as who would be stupid enough to bet to those figures !
By:
ribero1
When: 05 Jul 15 12:29
I'm with Foxy here,as in every walk of life there's plenty who would rob their own granny in our game.I'm often asked by punters where do they find a particular bookmaker at the moment.
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