Which trainers past & present have that gift with Fillies & Mares any views ?

Myth...trainer has a few good fillies thru randomness and suddenly become 'master trainer of fillies'...particularly if they like gardening too

Harry Wragg the finest I can thing of.

*think

^^^^ 14 times winners of the 1000 gns and Oaks alone - a ittle more than a few good filles through randomness

Jim Bolger, Park Express,etc

For example if you was the Aga Khan who'd be training your best crop in England or Ireland ? I'd probably send them between J Bolger or Gosden at the present.

It is possible that a trainer acquires, more-or-less at random, a couple of good fillies which make his reputation -- as a result of which he is sent more good fillies. Dandy once complained owners only sent him sprinters.

That said, with no statistical justification whatsoever, I should say Michael Bell, and Nicky Henderson over Jumps.

Rae Guest

Gay Rest.

Andrew in Sweden
28 Jun 15 11:23

^^^^ 14 times winners of the 1000 gns and Oaks alone - a ittle more than a few good filles through randomness


you sure, wikipedia says:-

British Classic Race wins as trainer:

2000 Guineas (1)
1000 Guineas (2)
Epsom Derby (1)
St. Leger Stakes (1)[1]


seemed ok with colts too

right, on my feed it looks like you are referring to Harry Wragg in lead on's post but from 14 winners i'm guessing you are referring to Henry Cecil, who also had 7x 2000G & Derby winners & 3 colts (+ 1 filly) win the Leger...so pretty good with colts too!..would seem unlikely to me that the man who trained Frankel had a greater gift with fillies...just a great trainer that got reputation with fillies cos he liked gardening