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In the 3.55 at Chepstow,many would have looked for the each way steal(not for me),which got reduced to 7 runners from the declared 8,yet he just bypasses it,as if it is of no importance.Yet he prattles on and on about things that are of no consequence whatsoever.Considering that this is one of 2 dedicated racing channels,things like that shouldn't be overlooked ,or just casually noted that there are now 7 runners.
He should be making the point that the many small punters that play e.w. luckys up and down the country ,can't always be sure that the declared 8 will actually line up,as more often than not 8 becomes 7.
He should be making the point that the many small punters that play e.w. luckys up and down the country ,can't always be sure that the declared 8 will actually line up,as more often than not 8 becomes 7.
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Both channels are bookies mouthpieces ..............when it suits imho.
two planks of wood would be of more interest than the two on ATR this afternoon
Boyce is gravy train hugger. ALWAYS SITS on the FENCE. No back bone whatsoever. And he does read on here
His pretense is very annoying,and I know they all read the forum,so I deliberately put his name on the thread title,so that it would come to his notice.
An analysis of the % of 8 and 9 runner races that saw only 7 or less go to post would be relevant,rather than the load of tosh that constantly gets spouted.
An analysis of the % of 8 and 9 runner races that saw only 7 or less go to post would be relevant,rather than the load of tosh that constantly gets spouted.
Four races at Beverley yesterday dropped to under 8 runners,yet ,as usual this goes unchecked.There may have been other races yesterday that dropped to under 8 runners,but 4 at one meeting is evidence enough that 48 decs. with our variations in weather just doesn't work.
Perhaps the BHA don't think it an important enough issue to warrant a serious check of the stats.when it is painfully obvious that it is.
Perhaps the BHA don't think it an important enough issue to warrant a serious check of the stats.when it is painfully obvious that it is.
Carlisle Bell 17 to 15 well backed 2nd favourite finished 4th
HE need to keep is well paid job, be fair lads .. if you were in his position would you do any different ... yes or no will do .
11kv hes on more money than you ..yes or no will do now be honest
He's a lunatic punter so I hope he earns enough to support his lifestyle.
It's in the BHAs interests for fields to drop below 8 as bookmakers profits are enhanced and thus more goes to them.
In the short run of course.
In the long run of course such practices will deter punters from betting on racing even more than they already are.
Of course by then the present BHA incumbents will have long moved on to pastures new.....
In the short run of course.
In the long run of course such practices will deter punters from betting on racing even more than they already are.
Of course by then the present BHA incumbents will have long moved on to pastures new.....
And so it goes on.Another four races in a day that should have had 3 places for each way betting dropped down to less than 8 runners,so only 2 places,with many early betting punters dismayed once again.
The amount of races that drop below the 8 runners in the course of the season must be growing at a big rate.
The amount of races that drop below the 8 runners in the course of the season must be growing at a big rate.
Not just 8 down to 7......16 down to 15, even 12 hc's to 11 is prevalent.
Oh and Boyce is intensely dislikeable, although he's in good company in that regard.
Would rather waffle on about things that are of no account,and as has been said many times over,nobody wants to rock the boat,apart from MC,who at least gets angry about this sort of thing,and expresses an opinion,as would McCririck.
The racing game relies on Levy support,the Levy comes from punters betting,disgruntled punters means lower wagering,which in turn means lower Levy.
They will probably set up another useless committee to discover this widely known fact.
The racing game relies on Levy support,the Levy comes from punters betting,disgruntled punters means lower wagering,which in turn means lower Levy.
They will probably set up another useless committee to discover this widely known fact.
I was sure that a few years ago on CH4 , they showed statistics which showed that it is not true that there are more non runners in 8/16 horse races than other races , to reduce the eachway place terms
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Nonchalant mention that this is the second race on the W'hmptn card dropping to 7 runners.
Boyce ,it is important,not just something to be casually glossed over.
Boyce ,it is important,not just something to be casually glossed over.
People on here have short memories. I remember a Sean Boyce who used to ask the right questions, he was (if rumours are to be believed) told to shut up or close his door on the way out.
Then how comes Matt still has free reign to speak his mind?
I was sure that a few years ago on CH4 , they showed statistics which showed that it is not true that there are more non runners in 8/16 horse races than other races , to reduce the eachway place terms
I've got stats on the number of runners, on more than 50,000 races ( a good sample). Unfortunately I have no breakdown of which were handicaps.
The number of 15 runners is 1,936, and the number of 16 runners is 1,554. That's a difference of 19.73%
11/12 stats are 4874 and 4561, a difference of 6.42%
So, you would expect the same with 7/8 stats, wouldn't you ?
However there were 5204 7 runner races, and 5516 8 runner races. A difference of MINUS 6%.
As I said these are just raw figures taking no account of race type or race conditions, but interesting nevertheless.
I've got stats on the number of runners, on more than 50,000 races ( a good sample). Unfortunately I have no breakdown of which were handicaps.
The number of 15 runners is 1,936, and the number of 16 runners is 1,554. That's a difference of 19.73%
11/12 stats are 4874 and 4561, a difference of 6.42%
So, you would expect the same with 7/8 stats, wouldn't you ?
However there were 5204 7 runner races, and 5516 8 runner races. A difference of MINUS 6%.
As I said these are just raw figures taking no account of race type or race conditions, but interesting nevertheless.
WFT , are these stats based on 16 runner races being reduced to 15 runners due to a non-runner ?
WFT , are these stats based on 16 runner races being reduced to 15 runners due to a non-runner ?
No mate, just on the actual number of horses that ran.
However the "15" number does stand out like a sore thumb, and 15 is very unlikely to be a declared number of runners.
No mate, just on the actual number of horses that ran.
However the "15" number does stand out like a sore thumb, and 15 is very unlikely to be a declared number of runners.
However the "15" number does stand out like a sore thumb, and 15 is very unlikely to be a declared number of runners.
I thought I'd better test my statement, and as Sod's Law would predict, there are two 15 declared races tomorrow !
I thought I'd better test my statement, and as Sod's Law would predict, there are two 15 declared races tomorrow !
I was sure that a few years ago on CH4 , they showed statistics which showed that it is not true that there are more non runners in 8/16 horse races than other races , to reduce the eachway place terms
from what I remember , there were just as many non runners in 17/18 races reducing to 16 , as there were 16 reducing to 15 , and 10/11 reducing to 8/9 as there were 8 reducing to 7
from what I remember , there were just as many non runners in 17/18 races reducing to 16 , as there were 16 reducing to 15 , and 10/11 reducing to 8/9 as there were 8 reducing to 7
16 or more down to 15 or less,and 8 or more down to 7 or less is very important,and I stand by what I said.Namely there are far far too many 8 runner races dropping to 7 or less.
Look in the Racing Post how many of these non runners are "self certificate".
Look in the Racing Post how many of these non runners are "self certificate".
the point that was made on CH4 , was that everyone notices the non runners in 16/8 runner races , they don't with all the other races
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