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enpassant
17 Jun 15 19:34
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Tried to find out how much these 2 were sold for but no success. Godolphin bought LoI before Al Shaqab Racing did KoR. Anyone have the answer.
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Report maleuk01. June 17, 2015 7:38 PM BST
no idea, more than we can afford Laugh

would you like to guess at the sums?
Report enpassant June 17, 2015 7:40 PM BST
hoping there may be a clue to the better horse in the price. Not too scientific but having looked at their races they both very impressive.
Report EVILROYSLADE June 17, 2015 7:46 PM BST
No idea re price paid. Firmly on Log Out Island corner though. Think it will blow them away.
Report maleuk01. June 17, 2015 7:48 PM BST
king of rooks beat buratino 5 lengths level weights

log out island beat burantino 5.5 lengths (buaratino conceding 4 lbs)

burantino was beaten first by log out island and has prob improved a bit scince, also came out the stalls a bit right handed.

King of Rooks more battle hardened with 3 runs, but log out island could improve again.

Tricky race, but I think king of rooks with the power offer money back as a free bet if 2nd or 3rd as a free bet. Only £50 max though.
Report roida June 17, 2015 7:51 PM BST
EVILROYSLADE 17 Jun 15 19:46 
No idea re price paid. Firmly on Log Out Island corner though. Think it will blow them away.

inc king of rooks?
Report maleuk01. June 17, 2015 7:54 PM BST
plus the horse 2nd to log out island (beaten 4.5 lengths Handytalk was also conceding 4lbs)

handytalk was beaten by king of rooks 7.5 lengths of level weights.
Report koikeeper June 17, 2015 7:56 PM BST
Thursday and no race has us licking our lips more than the opening Norfolk Stakes, in which we are represented by both King of Rooks and Log Out Island, both of whom have already put yesterday's impressive Coventry Stakes winner Buratino in his place.

Hannon said:"We think they are two smart two-year-olds, and I would not like to hazard a guess as to which is the better. They are the two top-rated colts in the race, they are drawn next to each and we can't split them, so we'd happily settle for a dead-heat.

"Obviously, Buratino has given the form a timely boost. Log Out Island beat him five and a half lengths on his debut at Ascot and King of Rooks five lengths when he bolted up in the National Stakes at Sandown. The latter was probably the stronger race, with Steady Place (third) having run well in yesterday's Windsor Castle, but all I know that both ours have plenty of speed and I just hope we are standing in the winner's circle with at least one of them.
Report enpassant June 17, 2015 8:01 PM BST
KoR's had some advantages at Sandown and Buratino had a few disadvantages as did Handytalk. Buratino also messed up the start agaisnt LoI. Both were decisive winners one with experience the othe learning as he went in a conditions event.
Report maleuk01. June 17, 2015 8:05 PM BST
I meant buratino messed up the start against log out island, he was much better away against king of rooks.


the race king of rooks won looks much stronger with steady pace and areen also running well earlier in the week.
Report enpassant June 17, 2015 8:13 PM BST
maleuk01. Yes I agree about the quality of the 2 races. Buratino was also wide and at Sandown that is a big disadvantage. That all said KoR's got them off the bridle while still going easily and went away with ease. LoI got a very hi (for a first time out) topspeed and is open to huge improvment you'd think. Form says KoR's I agree but nearly got burned today when I wrote of Sir Isaac as he looked green in winning his 3rd race. (would surely have won with clear passage)>
Report maleuk01. June 17, 2015 8:16 PM BST
yep enpassant its by no means a done deal, but the reasons given is why I fancy KOR more. But totally agree LOI could have any amount of improvement in him.
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 17, 2015 8:17 PM BST
Sandown 5f is a strange track, run the race 10 times with 10 different draws you will so many different results.
Report enpassant June 17, 2015 8:18 PM BST
Ibrahima Sonko; yes trying to factor that in but he still won easily.
Report cardifffc June 17, 2015 9:00 PM BST
enpass........do you think you over think things
Report enpassant June 17, 2015 9:02 PM BST
cardifffc this world is full of all sorts.
Report cardifffc June 17, 2015 9:22 PM BST
enpass......think there a couple of others in this race that could go close......the haggis and charlie hills horses not out of it
Report enpassant June 17, 2015 9:25 PM BST
Perhaps I'm nmot thinking enough then ! If there is an animal to beat both of them I would follow it through a wall.
Report enpassant June 17, 2015 9:39 PM BST
Ajaya ran v well with the 3rd having form with orvar and staedy pace. If the winner of that race were in here I'd be ,ore interested (Dhahmaan). The hills one :Ihad him in my bets the day he won cos I knew his form but I don't think he's up to the definite form of the Hannon 2.
Report roida June 17, 2015 10:25 PM BST
2 horse race...
Report broadsword June 17, 2015 10:26 PM BST
godawful usually buy the DUD
Report EVILROYSLADE June 17, 2015 10:57 PM BST
Including King of Rooks. ( Roida)
Report roida June 17, 2015 11:02 PM BST
a riddic statement.
Report EVILROYSLADE June 17, 2015 11:06 PM BST
Not really. Who would have thought Integral would have been unplaced today? Same with Ivawood. Nothing is certain. I just think that the second fav may be an outstanding horse.
Report result June 17, 2015 11:12 PM BST
im all over kor tomorrow, i was at sandown and it was so impressive, since then i personally think it will do the business tomorrow
Report EVILROYSLADE June 17, 2015 11:14 PM BST
I'm the same with LOI Result. Good luck!
Report roida June 17, 2015 11:16 PM BST
log out island may well be an outstanding horse..king of rooks already is..but it 100% wont blow rooks away if they both run to form without incident.
Report EVILROYSLADE June 17, 2015 11:22 PM BST
Hopefully a great race will take place. You on KOR already Roida?
Report EVILROYSLADE June 17, 2015 11:29 PM BST
One thing I won't do tomorrow....... come back on this thread to gloat if I'm right! Just nailing my colours to the mast now!
Report roida June 17, 2015 11:35 PM BST
no ive done nothing...rooks looks a world beater but log out may turn out to be as good...its an imponderable

good luck.
Report result June 17, 2015 11:41 PM BST
i have looked forward to this all week! good luck whoever your on its going to be a cracker! come on the rooks!
Report isleham June 17, 2015 11:46 PM BST
Kor had huge advantage being next to rail at sandown but would be very much with him since Godolphin nearly always buy badly!!!
Report Paterson92 June 18, 2015 4:55 AM BST
Can't help but feel Hannon has had no other option than to put Log Out Island in this race. His comments after the debut win suggested he would be upped to 6f for the Coventry, however with Round Two and Buratino both Godolphin owned and no intended runner in the Norfolk Stakes that's why he's here.

Hannon on Log Out Island after debut - "He is a lovely colt and is the first two-year-old we have really liked. He will go for something like the National Stakes, then come back for Royal Ascot - for which race I do not know. He has certainly shown up well at home and he will improve for that. It looks like six furlongs won't be a problem."

Hughes on King of Rooks - "King Of Rooks had a good draw and I got a soft lead in front, but when Steady Place did throw down a challenge my fellow went again," Hughes said. "You need to stay well to win at Royal Ascot, and he has both speed and stamina - everything you want for a Norfolk horse."
Report Paterson92 June 18, 2015 4:57 AM BST
I should also have added that when asked about his intended Royal Ascot runners on ATR last week his exact words were "Log Out Island is our Coventry horse".
Report tema June 18, 2015 8:07 AM BST
Ladcrooks Only 11/1 Waterloo bridge always got to take note when they're short an AOB horse.
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