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Documentary about Henry Cecil sat 13th 7pm ch4.

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By:
freddiewilliams
When: 13 Jun 15 20:45
they say its physically impossible to run flat out for a mile.......so they were going to hold up and use pacemaker......then its drawn furthest away....so back to front runningShocked
By:
roggrain
When: 13 Jun 15 20:47
I heard somewhere,Freddie,that Frankle was a bit of a freak in that he had an extra rib,therefore greater lung capacity.
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 13 Jun 15 20:49
Shocked
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roggrain
When: 13 Jun 15 20:52
I missed part of the programme. Did they mention who Frankel was named after?
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 13 Jun 15 20:57
dont think so....u can see it again on those catch up tv channel....type into google.....god bless the commander in chief
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 13 Jun 15 21:00
You know a programme is good when my wife doesn't speak for an hour.

Stupendous horse, lovely man.
By:
roggrain
When: 13 Jun 15 21:01
Just read that Eclipse reportedly covered 25 feet per stride!
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 13 Jun 15 21:03
rog.......u aint slow.....u know ure stuffHappy
By:
Arklearkle
When: 13 Jun 15 21:04
Perhaps Rog is slow but has a big stride
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 13 Jun 15 21:05
It doesn't really matter.

A selling plater may take the same size stride as a champion, but he will not do it as fast when it matters.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 13 Jun 15 21:07
We all have imperfections and are flawed as human beings. Henry was a great trainer and Frankel was a great racehorse. That's what the documentary was about. Didn't need to dwell on past discretions.
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 13 Jun 15 21:12
always trying....unlike some
By:
roggrain
When: 13 Jun 15 21:12
It does matter,spelling. All horses run at about the same cadence (strides per minute),throughout the race.

As they tire their strides shorten but the cadence stays the same.

Horses exhale as they bring their legs together and inhale as the stretch out,much like a bellows on every stride.

So when they get short of breath they shorten their stride to maintain the same oxygen intake.

If they changed their cadence they would reduce the oxygen intake.
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 13 Jun 15 21:22
roggrain

I'm not an expert, that was my belief.

But your first line the same cadence (strides per minute) and your second line (their strides shorten but the cadence stays the same) are contradictory.
By:
roggrain
When: 13 Jun 15 21:25
How are they cotradictory? Think about it.

They are running with shorter steps but the same number of steps per minute.
By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 13 Jun 15 21:56
".......his role in Lester's tax evasion...."

Inadvertently yes, but in the end if I remember the facts right, Lester had every chance to come clean and fully declare all his earnings, then the tax people and Lester agreed whatever amount he owed......all he had to do was pay it and that would have been it. But when he sent them the cheque - it was on a bank account which he hadn't declared, and it was found he was still trying to cover up a few million.  A stupid mistake because then the tax people really had no option but to take him to court.

Still don't think he should have gone to prison, a massive fine would have hurt him enough.  They didn't put Ken Dodd in prison ! Same offence.  But Ken Dodd acted in court........
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 13 Jun 15 22:08
What I remember are some owners querying a letter sent to them by their trainer outlining discreet six-figure sweeteners to be paid to the stable jockey for success and the trainer advising the owners to assent.
By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 13 Jun 15 22:22
unitedbiscuits ^ It wasn't exactly a good idea when Cecil added a PS to that letter which did raise an eyebrow, "perhaps it would be better to destroy it as soon as you have read it."

One owner didn't and he kept it on file......then later on trainer and owner were not even on speaking terms over another matter, then he got that letter out and hawked it around the tabloids.  The ironic thing was he was trying to get at Cecil........but the way it all developed it was Piggott who came off the worst.
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 13 Jun 15 22:29
Thanks for the reminder, hound dog, that is how it went down..and for all Cecil was a rare talent, he'll be forgotten a century before Piggott.
By:
Storm Alert
When: 14 Jun 15 09:26
Who is Piggot?
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THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD
When: 14 Jun 15 20:54
Just watched it thought it was very goodHappy
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