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SEATHESTARS....NO1
05 Jun 15 09:34
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And no one has mentioned it on here yet? Backers have to be worried surely?
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Report Layboy June 5, 2015 9:44 AM BST
If shes the best horse on the day, she will win. Draw irrelevant as she has a jockey on board that learnt his trade at Epsom.
Report Ramruma June 5, 2015 9:54 AM BST
Two years ago the first four home included draws 1, 2 and 3. Ryan and "the boys" will have a cunning plan.
Report Greg_Gory June 5, 2015 10:43 AM BST
THE DRAW
YEAR 1ST 2ND 3RD NO. OF RUNNERS GOING
2014 9   10   17 17             GOOD
2013 3   1    6  11             GOOD/SOFT
2012 10  8    2  12             GOOD
2011 7   12   2  13             GOOD
2010 15  4    2  15             GOOD
2009 5   2    9  10             GOOD
2008 13  10   11 16             GOOD
2007 11  9    6  14             GOOD/SOFT
2006 5   3    10 10             GOOD
2005 2   4    9  12             GOOD
2004 3   6    2  7              GOOD
2003 7   11   9  15             GOOD
2002 13  10   3  14             SOFT
Report ged June 5, 2015 10:59 AM BST
In the last 25 years, 3 favourites have started from draw 1. 1 of them has won, at 2/1. LSP = zero.

In the last 10 years, 6 of the horses that have been drawn 1 have gone off at 25/1 or more. 5 of them at 40/1 or more.
Report ged June 5, 2015 11:07 AM BST
And if you restrict it to field sizes of 12 runners or less, then favourites starting from draw 1 have a 50% strike rate in the last 25 years, showing a LSP of 50%. Gold mine!
Report jockeyhunter June 5, 2015 11:15 AM BST
Two horses drawn in gate 17 in 2014 anyone got a link to this interesting startExcited
Report Greg_Gory June 5, 2015 11:31 AM BST
drawn 17 of 17
Report Greg_Gory June 5, 2015 11:31 AM BST
Laugh
Report Greg_Gory June 5, 2015 11:33 AM BST
http://www.racingpost.com/horses/result_home.sd?race_id=594462&r_date=2014-0...
Report Millerracing67 June 5, 2015 11:59 AM BST
The 1 stall can prove tricky in the Classics at Epsom.
Only 11 runners will be a help & Ryan Moore even more so.
Bit of a concern to me this morn is the rainfall Plain now gd/gs in pls Plain
Was sweet on Lega's chances 2day, but wanted gd/fast ground for her.
Will hold fire on my Oaks bet until the real ground condition in known.
Report Angela Rebecchi June 5, 2015 12:13 PM BST
It's a lot of holaboloo, Legitissamo will win with ease.
Report koikeeper June 5, 2015 12:24 PM BST
Will no doubt be held up, so draw should make little difference.
Report grendel June 5, 2015 12:26 PM BST
stalls 1 and 2 have a horrendous win record historically with field sizes 8 or more, anyone backing legatissimo today needs their head tested. She may well prove to be by far the best filly today and overcome it but in the long run you will lose badly
Report Layboy June 5, 2015 12:32 PM BST
Basing your gambling on circumstantial statistics will lead to losing badly. In England, on Group One tracks, 9/10 over trips in excess of a mile the best horse on the day will win no matter where they are drawn. If the jolly loses it won't be because of what stall it came out of 12 furlongs agoLaugh
Report Angela Rebecchi June 5, 2015 12:35 PM BST
That stat is so ridiculous it's painful. It's a field size of 11, she's the best filly in there for me and should be closer to the 2/1 mark, definitely a value bet.
Report G1_Jockey_4 June 5, 2015 12:47 PM BST
think jack naylor should be the fav here
Report grendel June 5, 2015 12:47 PM BST
There is no doubt that those drawn in the lowest two stalls would have used up more gas to get from a standing start to the top of the hill than those drawn in the middle and higher, whether they are then good enough to still win depends on how much better than the opposition they are.
Report wondersobright June 5, 2015 12:49 PM BST
coming from the guineas and drawn 1, not for me at 3/1
at the prices I prefer together forever and al naamah win+place
Report ged June 5, 2015 4:53 PM BST
Draw 2, the complete rag, just touches off Draw 1, who'd got herself in a state on the way to the start and had to barge her way through - with a gap back to the rest.
Report Angela Rebecchi June 5, 2015 4:53 PM BST
OP a donkey LaughLaughLaugh
Report wondersobright June 5, 2015 4:58 PM BST
I think you will find those who pressed the lay button have got the money on lega
Report wondersobright June 5, 2015 5:01 PM BST
you could argue that the effort required to get the position the fav got took its toll at end of the race
Report grendel June 5, 2015 5:04 PM BST
.... just as it did with Secret Gesture two years ago
Report koikeeper June 5, 2015 5:05 PM BST
Crazy...you could argue that the fav lost the race going down to the start... the draw didnt beat it.
Report wondersobright June 5, 2015 5:11 PM BST
you could argue hunter chases should be scrapped
Wink
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