WHO CAN LABOUR ELECT AS LEADER NOW? They have no one suitable ?

eddie izzard would be a good choice

Dan Jarvis looks obvious choice,camerons awful he's won 2 elections you only to be middle ground and ordinary dan Jarvis also served in Iraq and come across with lots of genuine conviction unlike most of todays fake models across the political spectrum..

russell brand

What is clear from the last choice is that they failed miserably to understand how important the leader is and what is electable in the eyes of the public. Ironically Milliband may well have been a very good PM when you use betting thinking to analyse him. He has risen to become leader of the labour party despite his obvious physical shortcomings. We are all guilty of voting for the superficial qualities such as physical appearance and how a person talks etc. The really interesting conundrum is how would we all react to Boris Johnson as Con leader ?. He has a similar problem to Milliband on face value but at the moment we seem to be more forgiving. Faced with the reality of him getting in no 10 would we all back off ?.

Orville now that Keith's gone.

has all the attributes ...

- talks like Milliband (sorry that's Daffy Duck)

- is a puppet (Unions will love him)

- has big appealing eyes (like Tony Blair), so you cannot possibly consider him telling lies (like Tony Blair)

- both left wing and right wing at the same time (very new and old labour)

- no idea about economics or commerce

- fiercest opponent is a monkey (Cuddles ... but could be any politician)

- was a big name in the BBC.

so Orville it is, by a landslide

Anyone but communist Burnham.

He encouraged privatisation in the NHS, then apologised and said he was wrong.
Now he wants to be PM!

Prob get H Harperson or Yvette Balls

From the New Statesman:-

Yvette Cooper's aides have registered a domain name for her campaign, in the first clear sign from any of the runners and riders that they will seek to replace Ed Miliband as Labour leader.  Yvetteforleader.com has been registered in the name of Cooper's aide, Roger Baker. Cooper, who, I'm told, has already got a "substantial" sum of money raised and has been working the fundraising circuit hard, will start as a strong contender.

In an early coup for the Shadow Home Secretary's campaign, Cooper appears to have secured the services of Caroline Badley, the legendary mastermind of Gisela Stuart's against-the-odds triumphs in Birmingham Edgbaston. Badley, who many believe should have been put in charge of the party's field operations instead of Patrick Heneghan, is listed as one of the contacts for the domain name.


and from Wikipedia:-

She was educated at Eggar's School, a comprehensive school in Holybourne, and Alton College. She went on to study at Balliol College, Oxford, where she was awarded first class honours in Philosophy, Politics and Economics.[3] It was there that she became friends with her future colleague, James Purnell. She gained a Kennedy Scholarship in 1991 to study at Harvard University, and she eventually finished her studies with an MSc in Economics at the London School of Economics.


Pretty impressive ....

Its not a new leader they need, they have to understand, that the Robin Hood, policy of taking from the so called 'rich', and please define what is 'rich', and giving to the so called 'poor', who have iphones,ipads, sky tv, xboxes, and have never done and have no intentions of doing a days work, simply dont cut it with a huge number of people.

It's more about socialism being the only real way forward since it is generally accepted that capitalism leads to too much debt.

Hopefully another left-wing looney...

Cooper is a million, the name 'Mrs Balls' sez it all.

The rumour is that senior Labour figures have asked Blair if he would consider returning.

will horse racing be affected by it in anyway?

labour = losers ... always been the case - in politics or life

cons = success ... always has been the case

It's just a fact of life.

I for one, would rather pay no tax, but if I have to, I don't want it to go to the workshy. (or politicians, come to that)

your orville theory is pants, he was green ffs

Yes I am sure it will townley
The vast amounts of money likely to be invested in this supremely fascinating betting heat can only harm affect racing in an adverse manner
I wouldn't be surprised if the Derby suffered a 50% drop in turnover

I would have thought you lot would be more bothered about the European Referendum than the next leader of the Labour party.
You might end up with a new leader yourselves after that battle in your party.

why not discuss this in chit chat forum YFDSC

put them all in your list.

Indeed

I've always wanted to be on that list.

doesn't matter without the Scotland vote they will never come close to winning another election

Gorgeous George Galloway is available, would be my choice for his Lickability alone!

bring back the other Milliband imo

They are finished, they will probably put more nails in their coffins by electing someone form an ethnic minority, they are desperate - they have to have a true Englander leading and someone who is not a millionaire, someone who is not wealthy!

Thanks for the replies -some interesting and some witty !
Saw LIZ KENDALL being interviewed today . A breath of fresh air ,with a different take on things . Could be value at 12-1
But will Labour ever elect a female Leader ?
They might if they get desperate ?
PS (forgot to put H Harman on the original list - priced about 3-1 ? )

Harman will not be standing.

what about that Scottish chappie,

Salmon anyone

prefer sturgeon thanks

swift-tuttle I have also registered a domain name for Yvette Cooper..

Coopersareballs.com..

That half-wit may have all the qualifications in the World..

BUT HAS NEVER DONE A DAYS WORK IN HER LIFE..

Typical Labour MP..

The SNP have a leader who will not be at the House of Commons to vote, so.......



why not David Miliband ?  Far more intelligent than his brother, and more to the right !

Andy Burnham is no different to Red Ed, Chuka is imvho a bit vacuous......



.....if Nicola Sturgeon was in the party, she'd be a shoe in !  Intellectually she's head and shoulders above any of the candidates !

Now I know that the game is up halcyon..

It's a fact Homme, name me one of the candidates who's as clever ?....

The Labour Party as we know it have gone..

If they could not defeat the Conservatives with the worst leader ever then that was their last chance..

(A bit like Liverpool not winning the Premier League with Man Utds worst team ever)..

The BBC did all they could to push them into power and when that failed made sure every News was headed by the SNP who yet again failed to get over 35% of voters and were still hailed as the new power..

Left wing scum...

The Scottish are like sheep and would have voted for Billy Ba if he had promised them more dole Halcyon..

That Scottish midget would not have even won a seat South Of The Border...

I know it's a boring cliché, but if they position themselves as in 1997 ( New Labour), they will get re-elected !


Left wing/ Marxist policy's are dead in 21st century England !


If I were one of the Party's big wigs, I'd shear all connections with the Trade Union Movement, and go for state funding with all the other relevant party's !

Who do Unite & Unison & the Teaching Unions represent ?


That's it...... civil servants !


Len McCluskey... somewhere to the left of Lenin !

You been on the wine halcyon..

No Sir ! Why ?....

As opposed to many on here who are slightly to the left og Genghis Khan.

*of

halcyon days

why not David Miliband ?  Far more intelligent than his brother, and more to the right !


wakey wakey,

you are only 3 hours late compared to me being 12 minutes late earlier

sparrow - what can I say..

In fact what can you say when you come out with that sh ite..

I would be slightly to the right og Genghis Khan... (no typo)...

Where do they get them from as anyone slightly to the left would have been sliced in two...

NEXT...

Sorry info, been in the garden all day... never read your thread !

I must admit to being in two minds,homefortea,as to whether it was slightly to the left or right.

The centre's boring sparrow...  unless you're Christian Benteke !

Or a West Ham supporter, halcyon.

sparrow Genghis Khan was probably one of the greatest Warriors ever..

In the day if you held views to the left of him you would have been sliced and diced..

On the other hand sparrow you that hold a political view that is slightly left of Bono are feted...

I might have expected that he was one of your heroes, homefortea. I don't know about Bono but Attlee will do for me.

Not sure that you are a fully functioning individual sparrow..

Read that again - the dog biscuit that is bono is not my hero...

WHERE DO THEY GET THEM FROM..

And that pacifist Atlee the founder of all known scroungers was a well known half wit that has saddled us with an NHS that has become too hot to handle..

I was talking about Genghis Khan being one of your heroes as you called him a great warrior. As for pacifists you have obviously forgotten that Tory half wit Chamberlain.

thechairman18     10 May 15 15:07 
Its not a new leader they need, they have to understand, that the Robin Hood, policy of taking from the so called 'rich', and please define what is 'rich', and giving to the so called 'poor', who have iphones,ipads, sky tv, xboxes, and have never done and have no intentions of doing a days work, simply dont cut it with a huge number of people.

As opposed to a reverse Robin Hood and taking from the poor and giving to the rich?

And who told you the poor have iphones, ipads, sky tv and xboxes, The Sun newspaper?

Tories likely to implode in next couple of years as we move towards the promised EU referendum

A mansion tax on houses worth £2m plus, a top rate of 50% tax and an energy price freeze and some people were wetting themselves as if Miliband was a fking communist.

Labour are now banging on about being on the side of 'aspiration'. Are people out there really against a mansion tax just because they would love to have mansion? Is the aspiration really so attractive that people are willing to basically side with the 0.1% who are fking as all over? Are good, accessible public services no longer an aspiration? I read somebody in the paper today form Helensburgh (near Faslane) saying he voted Tory as a tactical vote due to the SNP policy of scrapping Trident. He was only worried about negative fking equity. Didn't care about the £100bn. Didn't care if they were needed. Didn't care about the number of people that would be vaporised if we used them. He only cared about the value of his fking house. Is that what we have become?

Wages haven't risen in line with productivity in 30 years. The idea of 'getting on' is a fantasy for many. The wealth concentration is obscene and cannot continue. The acceleration of this through QE is mindblowing. Nevermind any of that. Nevermind that the top 1% have nearly half the wealth but pay 25% of the income tax. Nevermind the tax taken from corporations has plummeted relative to what individuals pay. Nevermind that the only hope of being hit with the mansion tax is a lottery win - somebody down the road doesn't work and has an ipad. Fk me.

Mansion tax is a disgrace and put me right off Labour personally.

Good point john. Not many people realise the top 1% pay 25% of the income tax.

it's great laughing at politics on a horse racing forum "the idea of getting on is a fantasy for many ?"

I would gladly pay the mansion tax knowing that I was in a financial position to even be asked to, not that I actually need to be living in a £2m mansion in the first place but you can bet your life the very same people like Mylene Klass (net worth estimated at £11m, who laughably tried to suggest it would hit little old grannies who just happened to live in a property worth £2m) are the very same people who support the bedroom tax, which hits people far more unlikely to be able to afford to pay it than the 100,000 or so owned households worth £2m and above, who can easily afford it.

People like for example the CEO of Centrica/British Gas Iain Conn (aptly named there too) where they choose at 4:00PM on election day to release to the press that he has just been awarded a £2.4m bonus on top of his you can bet already substantial salary, for doing a job that basically consists of sacking staff, hiking prices and giving pensioners hypothermia. It wouldn't even be so bad if it was his own company that he started and built up himself but that was all done anyway with the use of taxpayers money before sold off at an undervalued share price by Margaret Thatcher.

Oh and I know somebody who doesn't work but owns an iPad but he bought it when previously working, having been made redundant by Shell after working there for 17 years and again by FedEx after 13 years and was then told he was only entitled to a pittance of something like £12 pw in benefits, due to having a pension from Shell, a pension that was basically his own money he paid into anyway.

"he was only entitled to a pittance of something like £12 pw in benefits, due to having a pension from Shell"

Isn't that the way the system should work? Surely, benefits should go to people who need them.

I agree with you about the mansion tax though......

The answer to the OP's question is Liz Kendall.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02r23s0

Just watched it - very impressed.

seriously?

Given the opposition how about drawing lots from 60 million competitors.

I vote for dianne abbot and lammie as president and vice

and Emily T as chancer,always ready with a empty **** packet for duf financial machinations

ABBOT and LAMMY?

FFS, has to be a parody account…

Some desperate people on this thread

Starmer has created a second Tory party. Emphasised by the defections and expectation that Tory voters will switch to Labour. Problems down the line with those who actually remember the original version. Doubt Starmer can suppress them all.

Vote orville get Keith.

Jun 13, 2024 -- 9:31AM, SHROPSHIRELAD wrote:

ABBOT and LAMMY?FFS, has to be a parody account…

The tories dream team

It is the Tories who have moved left rather than Labour moving very far. Why else are the ex Tory voters planning to vote Reform instead of Labour?

They are voting Reform out of desperation having got it wrong for 14 years.

Correct sage
Farage on BBC this morning about 830 being interviewed by Charlie and Naga... They tried to trip him up due to their bias, but failed as he was well prepared as usual
It is independently predicted for Reform to get 5 million plus votes, or about 20%...

But,this will only equate to about 2 or 3 seats due to fptp system

Agree Reg sadly and in our area, Libdems will get a few seats purely because voters don't like Conservative or Labour.

Yes, sage, saw plenty of Orange "Tessa" posters driving to Wells the other day
We were in the same constituency but boundary changes mean we've now been switched to be in with Bridgwater

Tessa is the only one any of our area have heard of. All of the others were unknown until a week ago and I still have no idea of their backgrounds. Good luck in Bridgwater.