Track bookies fleecing the Saturday racegoer yet again

Chill the Kite 25/1 - 16/1
Bronze Angel 33/1 - 20/1
Outback Traveller 18/1 - 14/1
Patenar 50/1 - 40/1
Heaven's Guest 16/1 - 12/1
Emell 22/1 - 16/1
Glen Moss 40/1 - 33/1
Highland Acclaim 18/1 - 14/1
Nijango 40/1 - 33/1
Zarwaan 12/1 - 9/1

And on and on to Redivers who opened at 33/1 and went off the same price. What a joke!

The bookmaking fraternity who post on here will be on this evening to explain.

they all have to eat  nothing new

Sure, Zips I understand but why a 5 course banquet?

ex , s are very LARGE
mugs pay

There must be a never ending supply of mugs then?

whip, Saturday crowds  are full of  enjoyment punters ,  they don't no or don't care they are being ripped off ............sad but true

Those are the returned SPs, not the prices available on track.

Victoria cup over 138%, you used to only see stuff like that in the Grand National.

on course market,relevant to SP but no relevance to actual prices available on here.

Law needs bringing in to stop this thievery.

Step 1) Get out your smartphone
Step 2) bet on exchange (Don't even have to Queue up!!)
Step 3) Enjoy they days racing

TODAY AT HAYDOCK EVERY FAV BIGGER THAN THE MACHINE,EVERY HORSE COMPARABLE TO THE PRICES ON HERE BUT TO GOOD MONEY,STANDARD EWAY TERMS EVERY RACE(WITH ME),FAR BETTER THAN WHATS ON OFFER ON HERE OR THE THE INTERNET BLUFFERS,COME RACING

OH AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE THIEVERY,JUST LOOK AT THE SPORTSBOOK ON HERE

considering they are trying improve turnover on the sportsbook, the decision to be permanently unders on everything that moves in absolutely any market is unfathomable. If you don't like the jolly they should lay it but its shorter than elsewhere, so they must fancy the field or opposition then but no, also the shortest price in the village. Must have a tie up with Ladbrokes somewhere.

Who cares about Sportsbook anyway.

zipper    09 May 15 16:29 
whip, Saturday crowds  are full of  enjoyment punters ,  they don't no or don't care they are being ripped off ............sad but true

Zipper being a normal person for a minute? well i never.

the people who the robbery at hatton garden are more honest then bookmakers

when i see dog s h i t on the pavement i think of bookmakers

The York Bookies are the best with 4-1 or 5-1 favs in 20 runner races that have no chance..

You`re all looking at this the wrong way around. Instead of moaning about some of them shortening, you should be grateful for the huge value available pre-shortening. Ungrateful wretches, the lot of you.

the mad dog man

going by your joining date it makes you at least 32 oh dear.

Don't go racing. Simples. Price of a pint a joke and you even get an occasional fight at the bigger saturday meets. They you get the bands ...

I went to Thirsk last year and there was one Guy in the bar drinking a pint
previously before the massive price hikes it had been packed to the rafters.

ITS QUITE OBVIOUS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE ABOVE HAVE NEVER SET FOOT ON A RACECOURSE,COME RACING,NO COMMISSION,NO PREMIUM CHARGE

sometimes I do wish I could bet at sp only

foxy im 66 used to go racing every day until betfair came along

getting on early is the best thing to do but even Laddies yesterday implemented maximum stake of £10 on 3:

Bellajou @ 20/1
Lexi's Boy @ 25/1
Baraweez @ 25/1

In the immortal words of Barney Curley "cannot have 2 bananas to win a banana" with these bookmakers nowadays

thinking about going to york fri/sat 10/11th july how much a pint? sounds like it will be full, poss should just head to blackpool instead.

come racing think about this    travel, petrol , £35  to get in   £40 to get out (joke)  £4.50 for a drink  thats a pint ....
go to any bookie  with a decent bet say  £200 plus  you will only  be on if he / she can get bigger on here ..
sit at home   no travel , no exes   and you can have all you want to drink,  no breathleiser ... and you get better prices on here   and to grands .. end of

it is still worth going to York - a day's racing is full of interest, some things cannot be measured in hard value terms.
Saw Frankel win at York, will remain in the memory for a long time.
However, if you're just going for a day out on the beer, you may as well go somewhere cheaper.

With that logic you would never leave the house!  Why go to a gig when you can watch it later on youtube at home for free?  Why go out to dinner when you can cook the same thing at home cheaper?  Why go to the pub when you can buy drinks from the supermarket much cheaper and drink them at home?

agree there

agree with swift tuttle

yeah i agree its not all aboutthe cost but you are giving away a big % of fun money before you even have fun, blackpool is sounding better lol

kiss me quick says it all

garbage,not buying a pint or some rip off merchandise at a pop concert needn,t spoil your enoyment, for 99% of racegoers having a bet does,you go racing for a bet you dont go to a concert to buy a tee shirt

Have a day out, enjoy watching the horses close up and bet on here. What is the problem? If bookmakers continue to give poor value, they will go out of business.

what loon what % of saturday racegoers do you think have a betfair account

the reason bookmakers do it is because they no people wont go elsewhere to bet its a captive audience,doesnt make it right

What has been conveniently forgotten is that it wasn't always like this.Naturally bookmakers like adge,and wasnot want to defend their position,and are probably 2 that lay a fair bet,as they are always saying,but in general,it is bad now.
As pointed out by many posters the days of "diving" round the ring,and getting a bit of 10s an 8/1 shot are long gone,because as rightly posted,prices are practically the same everywhere,and bookmakers refusal to change is wrong.
For instance you don't have to go 9/2 the 4/1 chance.or 11/2 the 5/1 chance,you can go 4.2 and 5.2(forget about including stake),and just be a bit different from the crowd,and give the punters something to keep them interested.However,it won't happen,as bookmakers refuse to enter the modern era,and trade in decimals,relying on punters lack of knowing fractions,so they still have to enquire whether 10/3 is better than 7/2,or if 11/10 is better than 5/4.Decimals would help them.

answering an earlier enquiry
a pint of john smiths smooth will be £4.10p at York

if you can stomach that kind of thing.

I am puzzled about what ist time poster would like to see happen. If people continue to accept poor value, the bookmakers will not change. If they stop betting in the ring, they will have to. It is a market.

sageform about time you got with project,the people keeping your game alive on saturdays and the big festivals dont no what or where the ring is, they,ve never heard of betfair, not interested in what constitutes a decent bet,if you were a landlord instead of a bookmaker why would you sell beer at a quid a pint when people are willing to pay 2 quid,theres no reason for bookies to change those using their phones for bog,price boosts,betfair arnt going to bet in the ring anyway,i,m afraid technology has taken the mystique out of racing ,as you say no price difference amongst the books ,no photo betting,no asking for the fractions etc etc

ist time poster, who says you cant ask for fractions?if someone has the sense to ask me for a fraction bet  I have no reason at all not to lay them.as for photo betting , rarely is there time to put prices up  with todays technology most photos are decided in the blink of an eye.i sometimes lay prices in stewards enqs as well.

technology has taken the mystiquye out of racing

Just ask for a price and if you don't get what you think is fair, don't bet. Nobody is forced to bet with bookmakers. I don't go racing much these days but when I do, I have 2 rail accounts and usually get SP or better-what they call fair price. If the price shortens from when I place the bet, I get the price struck, if it drifts I get longer. It might not always match Betfair but is usually not far off.