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I have to give credit to Alan Johnson for this reasoning of when the election was Lost for Labour
A lot of us saw it .
Cast your mind back to the evening of Thursday 30th April at 8 pm QUESTION TIME on BBC1.
The main 3 Leaders (DAVE ,NICK AND ED) were being grilled in turn by an angry audience .
One guy simply asked ED MILLIBAND 'WILL YOU ADMIT THE LAST LABOUR GOVERNMENT OVERSPENT ?"
Amazingly Ed said "NO"
There was an audible gasp and muttering from most of the audience .
How could any sane person deny that simple fact ?
From that moment the audience seemed to turn hostile and Ed began to wilt and lacked conviction .
Millions watching must have thought that with Ed Balls and Milliband in charge of the nations finances ,they would no doubt Bankrupt us next time given the chance .
The guy in the audience who asked the question deserves a medal .
And that was the moment the election turned in David Camerons favour .
Would others agree ?
A lot of us saw it .
Cast your mind back to the evening of Thursday 30th April at 8 pm QUESTION TIME on BBC1.
The main 3 Leaders (DAVE ,NICK AND ED) were being grilled in turn by an angry audience .
One guy simply asked ED MILLIBAND 'WILL YOU ADMIT THE LAST LABOUR GOVERNMENT OVERSPENT ?"
Amazingly Ed said "NO"
There was an audible gasp and muttering from most of the audience .
How could any sane person deny that simple fact ?
From that moment the audience seemed to turn hostile and Ed began to wilt and lacked conviction .
Millions watching must have thought that with Ed Balls and Milliband in charge of the nations finances ,they would no doubt Bankrupt us next time given the chance .
The guy in the audience who asked the question deserves a medal .
And that was the moment the election turned in David Camerons favour .
Would others agree ?
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Slagging off the NHS.................anyone thats had a go says its wonderfull.................PFI the prob
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His Moses moment did not help.
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nhs is useless, 5 hour waits in A&E lmfao, cannot get an appointment with my gp for a week, millions paid out in compensation due to clinical negligence rofl, lengthy waiting times, benefit tourism costing us billions.
radical change needed imo. dont kid me that labour is the party of the nhs, just look at wales and mid staffs. labour didnt win because they are feckin useless libtards. milipede was a joke. and what is this 'question time' that you speak of? nothing but staged managed drivel if you ask me. |
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its no one thing
Cameron was clever and saved the best till last , playing the english nationalist card and striking fear into voters over a labour/SNP led England struck fear into England And i also believe many scottish unionists seen knocking Labour out as the best way to keep UK together Ed was never ever seen as strong enough , even paxman felt guilty about bullying him i think |
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The election was lost when the Trade Unions voted in Milliband as leader. The days of a left wing Labour Party winning elections is long gone. They need to move to the centre ground.
Tony Blair won three elections, If he hadn't taken the country to war he would have been seen as one of the greatest ever Labour leaders. |
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Well ,yes ,upon reflection , the now infamous MOSES TABLET was a huge P R mistake by Labour planners .
Heads will roll (Ed,s first !) |
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You could never have a prime minister who sounds like Daffy Duck.
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mmm he was only aving the quack..............
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The guy in the audience was an absolute ****. One of those who still believes the global economic meltdown was the fault of Gordon Brown.
No doubt the ten bob millionaire will be blaming Labour when the education system and NHS breakdown over the next five years. Denialist. |
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The global economic meltdown was not Labours fault.
Not reacting to it was their fault. |
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Matthew Engel, the Racing Post Political betting expert really must have his job title changed after Thursday night.
Amongst his recommendations where: Labour most seats. 1pt 9/2 Ed Milliband next Prime Minister. 3pts 6/5 Labour minority Government.3pts 7/4 Labour minority Government. 3pts 13/8 UKIP over 3.5 seats. 2 pts 5/4 Ed Milliband to be Labour leader on Jan 1st 2016. 5pts 5/4 SNP under 44.5 seats. 3pts 5/6 Ed Milliband next Prime Minister. 5pts 6/5 Ed Milliband next Prime Minister. 3pts 11/10 On the credit side he got four other predictions correct but still a big loss to stakes. His column always appeared to me to have a left wing bias and I think this blurred his vision. |
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It was actually when he stumbled when leaving the rostrum.
There is correlation between the fickleness of the electorate and what they assume is bumbling. There is precedence to this, look it up online how elections have tanked when ppl fall off stages or use the wrong rhetoric etc. |
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hello :-) 09 May 15 12:32
its no one thing Cameron was clever and saved the best till last , playing the english nationalist card and striking fear into voters over a labour/SNP led England struck fear into England And i also believe many scottish unionists seen knocking Labour out as the best way to keep UK together Ed was never ever seen as strong enough , even paxman felt guilty about bullying him i think Nothing to do with Cameron. His every move and every word has been stage managed by the Tories election strategist Lynton Crosby. |
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JBNAY 09 May 15 13:36 Joined: 26 Jan 11 | Topic/replies: 754 | Blogger: JBNAY's blog
The global economic meltdown was not Labours fault. Not reacting to it was their fault. --------------------------------------- Agreed - along with successive Govts. As was contributing to the mechanisms which enabled it, starting many years ago but accelerating in the 80's credit lead boom. |
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Labour lost the election when they selected the wrong Miliband as leader.
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Nope. David was seen as too much like Blair / New Labour.the fault was a desire to get back to a more socialist party, without clearly having a strategy of how to implement that.
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The seeds were planted 5 years ago, when our new government received a letter from Liam Byrne. "NO MONEY LEFT"
Used as a prop perhaps, but safely stored away for this election. Flapped around at every opportunity to remind us of how childish the Labour government were and how little respect they had for our country. |
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^^^^ it was just a "joke"
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Nobody laughed though
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banter
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For me it was when he said there would be no limit on immigration. The great British people know we're full.
So I had £20 on Cons to win overall majority at 9.2. Thanks Ed, win/win for me. And even better, when the other buffoon Ed (Balls-up) got turfed out, BBC went into meltdown ... maybe now's the chance to see the real Ed - loves football, runs marathons, learning the piano, really clever etc (Laura K...berg & Nick Robinson said). Really, is he really clever, really. Not on my book. |
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Very interesting to see all todays newspaper obituries for Labours dramatic fall on Thursday night .
When you look at the situation in the cold light of day it was obvious Millibrain was unelectable . I said this on two previous threads and backed my judgement up with hard cash on here . But the Polls kept saying it was neck and neck and this somehow convinced me to CASHOUT on a £1,000 bet . It showed me a cracking profit but would have been double if I had let the bet run . OF COURSE WITH HINDSIGHT WE WOULD ALL BE MILLIONAIRES!! |