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02 May 15
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Would appear to be an above average crop this year.
American Pharoh was explosive in the Arkansas, Dortmund is a pure monster who should be joint fav for me, Firing Line oozed class last time at Sunland, Carpe Diem is an out and out Giants Causeway...then you got the likes of International Star and the Florida Derby winner Materialiality.
Splendid line up.
settled on Frosted for Godolphin, Keiran McLaughlin and Joel Rosario.
A lot was expected him this year but first run in the Fountain of Youth went from stunning to total disaster in a matter of strides...was absolutely cantering all over the likes of Upstart, kick clear turning for home but just stopped...
McLaughlin took him away, had him checked out, gave him the Paul Nicholls special (wind op) and boom....back on the Derby trail.
Ever since that he's been brilliant in his work outs and scored a fine win in the Wood Memorial last time out...picking up nicely from behind off a slow pace to score easily.
Been great since....think he ticks a lot of boxes.
breeding - check
distance - check
Class - check
Speed - check...his figures are up ther with Dortmund and AP
Jockey - check won the KD on Orb
versatility - check will be able to adapt quickly to whatever happens tonight.
Like this fella vs the hot pots....16/1 eachway 4places will do for me.
American Pharoh was explosive in the Arkansas, Dortmund is a pure monster who should be joint fav for me, Firing Line oozed class last time at Sunland, Carpe Diem is an out and out Giants Causeway...then you got the likes of International Star and the Florida Derby winner Materialiality.
Splendid line up.
settled on Frosted for Godolphin, Keiran McLaughlin and Joel Rosario.
A lot was expected him this year but first run in the Fountain of Youth went from stunning to total disaster in a matter of strides...was absolutely cantering all over the likes of Upstart, kick clear turning for home but just stopped...
McLaughlin took him away, had him checked out, gave him the Paul Nicholls special (wind op) and boom....back on the Derby trail.
Ever since that he's been brilliant in his work outs and scored a fine win in the Wood Memorial last time out...picking up nicely from behind off a slow pace to score easily.
Been great since....think he ticks a lot of boxes.
breeding - check
distance - check
Class - check
Speed - check...his figures are up ther with Dortmund and AP
Jockey - check won the KD on Orb
versatility - check will be able to adapt quickly to whatever happens tonight.
Like this fella vs the hot pots....16/1 eachway 4places will do for me.
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The Kentucky humorist, Irvin S. Cobb, from Paducah, said it best, “Until you go to Kentucky and with your eyes behold the Derby, you ain’t never been nowhere and you ain’t never seen nothin’.”
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I`ve been
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Any links tonight..wife has telly..
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What race is it on betfair, can't find it. Want to back Dortmund.
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I put a score on the Pharoah a week or two back at 9/2. Not getting excited though. I know virtually nothing about US racing and it does look a very competitive race.
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not on betfair, reg books or daq
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as in the exchange i should say, you will find it on sportsbook tho
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Why is such a big race not on Betfair?!
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they don't have the rights to cover certain tracks, churchill is one of them
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Thanks elise.
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pay the fee and stick the market up is what everyone wants
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But the do have the right to annoy us with a distance market
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taking the pish with those elg, if someone comes in from the pub half cut they might take a fiver
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shortlisted 3 ...
dortmund firing line mubtaahij hard to oppose ap after following his build up, carpe diem i also like but stick with dortmund and a couple of bigger prices to box up in fc & tris |
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american pharaoh has been hyped, but the hype could well be right
the horse is always forwardly placed in his races, and as he is drawn wide he has to go forward, if the speed is not too harsh then he could get a could trip |
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Firing Line for me, connections very hopeful
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Carpe Diem (11/1) and Frosted (16/1) for me.
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How amazing would it be too see Soumy swinging off the home turn on Mubtaahij??
Its always a fascinating race and really captures the imagination and id love to see this boy make a dent tonight... cant honestly see it but posted ok and danced on the pseudo dirt at meydan.. ya just never know.. Darley brochure printing headquarters will probably explode if he does.. be some result for Dubawi |
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http://livetv.sx/en/allupcoming/ Kentucky Derby listed under equestrian events on right of page. If it doesn`t show at first, click on broadcasts on banner at top of page and it should then show. |
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Cheers
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jonjon, mike de kock deserves a big race international winner, feels like nobody apart from south africa and dubai really knows about him, he is top quality in my opinion
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Dortmund looks well ahead on the clock, ew bet for me.
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(well apart from the fav)
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derby card if anyone wants it;
. http://www.brisnet.com/brisnet_promos/KentuckyDerby15.pdf |
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are atr showing it? they have churchill now but does it not include triple crown etc
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a truly great moment in racing from 1990
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DALcbYxWeO4 |
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RUK have exclusive Marve. Otherwise you can watch the replay, 20-30 mins after the race,at Churchill Downs's website.
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Agree Dortmund looked the part last time i seen him but would worry he might have peaked and what he has really beat , not sure about Frosted ,interesting and could have the scope but may need well need further ,i have backed Mubtaahij and think the race will be run to suit but he could easily be destroyed by American Pharoah ,who looks a typical big flat track bully who should be too good for the other ftb,s ,Carp Diem and Dortmund ,maybe Mubtaahij will get a tow into the race by then and go on and stuff the Pharoah late on , but American Pharoah looks a worthy fav and the one to beat imo .
but i have been wrong before ....once ......or thrice or so no kentucky derby thread is complete without this . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv8x9x5A49s . |
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One of the most competitive Derbys in a long time. I looked at replays of the latest starts of Carpe,
Frosted,Pharoah,Dortmund and International. They all raced at 10 furlongs and all ran fast times. The odd thing is that I felt I was watching the same horse in each race,although Dortmund is a monster of a horse. Then there's the unbeaten Pletcher runner Materiality and the unknown quantity of Mubtaahij. I've settled on Carpe,Dort.and Material. Yes ,pharoah can win but I see no value in his price given the wide draw and the fact that there's a lot of genuine speed inside of him.Frosted comes from mid pack which could also see him wide but he's a much better price and versatile,so I wouldn't put anyone off betting him. Trip is going to be crucial. |
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I fancy Frosted too. Did well to win from his position LTO. Will get a much stronger pace to aim at here - will be moving up steadily from the back and could easily get there.
American Pharoah could be a monster though. |
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the race is on the daq but not in running....
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if Carpe Diem won the the Derby winner would be by Giants Causeway and the Guineas winner out of his full sister YoureSoThrilling :o
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I was tempted by Mubtahij but I'd rather not chance Soumillon ruining my weekend :o good luck to team De Kock though.
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read the pedigree analysis on blood horse and they talked up BOLO.
Turf horse but dynamormer on top with the dam a half sister to Mind that Bird and Dullahan (3rd in the KD). |
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American Pharaoh with Upstart the danger.
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That owner is pretty fked up if he's supporting both Bayern and Dortmund....good egg mind....
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i have looked at a lot of you tube etc and i have a feeling Mr.Z will run into a place at huge odds or even cause a huge upset, beaten by a fair few of these but i think the peak is tonight. International Star a NR, as is Stanford, Tale of Verse and El Kabeir
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Danzig Moon for me ... http://www.latekick.com/special-events/kentucky-derby-2015.aspx
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