2015 GB flat. Sire table to date.

No COOLMORE stallions?

No. They mostly stay in Ireland apart from in Group races. Galileo does better on turf so might just make the top 20 by the end of October.

They don't mostly stay in Ireland.

More than half of the winners by Galileo are trained in Ireland. Which other ones do you have in mind?

The gotchee ,did john magnier bully u at school and steal your lunch money ,as u seem to have a serious problem with this outfit .It's like deja vu of the 2014 thread

No lingbleed, he didn't bully me and I don't have a serious problem with the outfit. In relation to the list, what do you see that I'm not seeing?
The fact of the matter is they don't have a single horse in sageform's list. Would you not think that is baffling, considering that their stallions cover thousands of mares each year?

14 of the current 21 irish coolmore 'flat' stallions havent any runners yet, if none of them make it into a top 10 in 3/4 years time then the will have a gone badly wrong.  I doubt that will happen.

They will probably make the top 10 including Irish races on money won and perhaps races won, but they are less likely to do so in GB. Current stallions that have plenty of progeny are:
Rock of Gibraltar 45, 7, Mastercraftsman 40, 4, Henrythenavigator 16, 8, Holy Roman Emperor 38, 7 Galileo 80, 7, and Dylan Thomas 41, 7. The figures after each sire refer to GB wins in 2014 and 2015 to date respectively. Only Galileo featured in the top 20 in 2014.

sorry the Gotchee my comments were only tongue and cheek ,i go by the sire tables at the back of the irish field and the coolmore stallions finished very high on the lists last year ,But my mistake that is done by money earned ,not sure of runner's to winner's ratio but will be looking this year to see how they compare with other's .the list does both u.k and irish results ,1 year .2 year sire etc .and i do understand sage your list is u.k only and for betting purposes .

GB not UK. UK would include the Northern Irish courses. It is a minefield that has been created by the racing statisticians down the years and it gets worse. We now have trainer and jockey championships with strange start and finish dates, annual statistics for both, worldwide pattern race stats for sires etc. This is why I collect my own GB stats to try to make sense of it. Irish and French based sires have proportionally more progeny competing on turf and on softer surfaces than American or English ones which I think is significant.

Hi Sage, I detect in your last post a little streak of pedantry, so please don't be too offended if I expose mine. I find your figures interesting and understand your aims but always become distracted by the Kodiac spelling. Sorry.

Thanks for that. I had genuinely never noticed it. I might be pedantic about statistics but not on spelling. I would describe my view of sire statistics as accurate rather than pedantic. There is a big difference between GB and UK politically and it is yet another of the anachronisms of our favourite sport that racing in Down Royal and Downpatrick are included in Ireland. It is understandable from a practical point of view.
I have never seen a rational reason why sire tables include GB and Ireland while owner, trainer and jockey ones do not.

how has teofilo been performing, good stallion who gets some good types. dont suppose will get that many winners in england. know there was some excellent winners over the last weekend. and good one just now
TWO JABS, hoping that will keep improving this season.

Teofilo and Pastoral Pursuits are both now on 15 after wins today.

Does Down royal and Downpatrick have flat racing  ,if so i've never seen it ,i some how never think of northern ireland when it comes to horse racing .But i get ur point ,and been irish i would happily let GB have both doe's two course's .

Good point, may be they don't have flat racing. I should know but I don't.

Down royal has flat racing media puzzle won ulster derby before winning melbourne cup.

You can be forgiven sageform its not GB .The ulster derby ,i taught you where taken the p1ss beacon light ,so googled it ,and i stand corrected ,all these year's watching flat racing in ireland and liven quit close to the border i cant believe i'd never seen or heard of that .Learn something new every day

Just to add to the accuracy discussion, GB includes Channel Islands. May we take it Sageform that your excellent and interesting  statistics exclude the splendid racing in Jersey and Guernsey, being perhaps mainland GB only!

Good point-do the Channel Island results get included in any Jockey Club/Weatherby statistics? Or are they included in the French? Yet another anomaly. If Scotland eventually get their independence, will the Scottish results be included?

Top 10 GB sires by wins to end of April 2015.

Kodiac  25
Invincible Spirit 24
Shamardal  23
Dubawi  22
Kyllachy, Oasis Dream  21
Dark Angel  20
Kheleyf, Pivotal 19
Acclamation 18.

Results 2015 Britain@Ireland,same stallions by %

Dubawi 20.78
Shamardal 17.79
Dark Angel 17.01
Cape Cross 16.48
Kodiac 13.62
Oasis dream 13.10
Pivotal 12.94
Kheleyf 11.31
Kyllachy 10.05
Invincble Spirit 10.00
Acclamation 10.00

13.00hrs-01-05-2015.

Thanks. It is quite a revealing contrast. Dubawi and Shamardal have the 2 highest first season win totals I have ever recorded and they started in the same season.

Three classy meetings today at top courses and the top sires have dominated.
Acclamation 3
Exceed and Excel 2
Shamardal 2
Cape Cross, Dark Angel, Invincible Spirit, Oasis Dream and Teofilo 1 each.
For good measure, 3 Derby winners, Authorised, Galileo and Motivator also sired a winner each.

I jumped the gun before the last at Newbury-another for Cape Cross. That is 13 out of 22 races won by my top 12 sires by number of GB wins and another 3 by Derby winners. Lesser known sires might win at the gaffs and on the AW but on Grade 1 tracks put a line through anything not sired by ones on my list.

Another good day for the leading sires led by Dubawi with an astonishing valuable treble at Newbury backed up by Laurence at Newmarket. Two each for Dark Angel, Cape Cross, Kodiak and Compton Place and also for Tamayuz who is not yet on my top list.

yes seems the dark angel has hit form in the last few days, had that cape cross winner ALWAYS SMILE has racked up two wins for my list, would be good if can keep winning now. not unusual for those sires to bang in a few winners in a row, seems happening everywhere with jockeys racking up alot of winners in a day. good angle for
people who follow those kinda things.

You should first ask yourself whether there is a reason for a surge of wins for a jockey or a sire or whether it is random chance.

May had by far the most flat races of the year so the sire table is taking a more familiar shape although we are about 150 races down on last year for the 5 months of 2015.

GB wins to date (includes June 1)

Invincible Spirit  44
Kodiac  43
Shamardal  37
Cape Cross, Dubawi  36
Acclamation, Dark Angel  35
Kyllachy  33
Exceed and Excel  30
Oasis Dream  29
Ifraaj  28

Invincible Spirit now 48, Kodiak 46 as they continue to pull away from the rest.

The biggest mover in June so far is Pastoral pursuits. Two more in the first 4 races at Salisbury moves him on to 29 for the year of which 7 have been in the first 9 days of the month. He produced 68 wins last year but is on target to exceed that this time.

Five wins for Kodiak over the weekend brings him level with Invincible Spirit on 52 going into Royal Ascot.

The Kodiac run continued right through June with a monthly total of 21 and he now has a clear lead for the first time.

GB wins to end of June.

Kodiac  63
Invincible Spirit  60
Acclamation  54
Exceed and Excel  52
Dubawi  51
Shamardal  50
Cape Cross  45
Dark Angel  44
Kyllachy  44
Oasis Dream  41

And Hot Spice extends Kodiac's lead to 4.

July had 843 flat winner in GB so the table has been changed somewhat. GB flat wins to date with July in brackets.

Kodiac  80 (17)
Acclamation  76 (22)
Invincible Spirit 75 (15)
Shamardal  74 (24)
Exceed and Excel  68 (16)
Dubawi  62 (10)
Cape Cross   61 (16)
Oasis Dream  59 (18)
Dark Angel  57 (13)
Kyllachy  57 (13)

Another nice winner for Sir Percy in Scarlet Dragon at Leicester. He is by far the most prolific producer of GB winners of the Derby winners standing at stud. This latest win was number 47 (7 in August) compared to 41 in the whole of 2014. The next best Derby winner is Galileo on 32 then Authorised on 23.

shame those sir percy progeny dont seem to rack up wins, maybe that has something to do with distances of the races they run in. will take
a look see if i can find some of the better ones.

The reason why Sir Percy gets more winners than the other Derby winners is that he gets 2yo's and milers as well as stayers. The dearth of staying races makes it hard for sires like Motivator and Authorised to make any impact.

Just run through Sir Percy's GB wins to check and he has had 10 horses that have won twice and 27 just once. They do not include any really high class offspring with Lady Tiana and Twin Sails the highest rated.

lady tiana has been in the notebook since last year, seems to have made big strides, must be the breeders supporting sir percy, like you say
there has been more multiple winners, distances of the races and types of races, more than likely is why dont come across lot of the progeny myself.
older crops have been maturing as well, so suppose this has provided more opportunities this year for wins.

Kodiac continues to set a very strong pace and with Kodi Bear and Adaay winning Group races this week, he has quality as well as quantity. Now on 94 GB wins, he could get past 100 by the end of August which is an exceptional effort. Acclamation with 89 continues to impress as well as both of the leading sires are getting almost one win per day.

amazing they both started off in the same maiden race, don't know if you noticed there was a 197/1 BFSP first timeout winner in Ireland this week for SIR PERCY, with a good name ENJOY YOURSELF.

RP have now changed the website, suppose must be to do with not having the race videos, not that I bothered watching
any of the horse races, going to miss the winners list's, now has been replaced by NICKS, this must be for the breeders, don't see that being much help to the punters, unless im missing something.

Besharah added another Group 2 for Kodiac yesterday. He won't get enough prize money to win the Leading Sire title but still a very impressive season.

Kodiac finally made the 100 when Strands of Silk won today. Acclamation with 3 more today is now on 98 with Invincible Spirit third on 90 from Shamardal on 89. More detail at the end of the month.

Kodiac is doing well. I have seen quite a few of them this year and although they seem to be smaller than has 1/2 brothers IS, they are very strong looking types and precocious. He has one or two which could make useful 1st seasoners next year including Kodi Bear.

The biggest month of the year by number of flat races is over and the sire table is as follows.
Total GB wins in 2015 followed by the August total in brackets.

Kodiac   102 (22)
Acclamation 100 (24)
Shamardal  91 (17)
Invincible Spirit  90 (15)
Exceed and Excel 86 (18)
Kyllachy  75 (18)
Dubawi  72 (11)
Cape Cross  70 (9)
Dark Angel  69 (12)
Oasis Dream  68 (9)
Pastoral Pursuits  62 (13)
Ifraaj  59 (11)

Those 12 sires have produced just over 20% of the winners in the month of August.

Latest totals to end of racing on Oct 1. GB flat wins since Jan 1.

Kodiac  113
Acclamation  111
Shamardal  105
Exceed and Excel  100
Invincible Spirit  99
Dubawi  88
Dark Angel 84
Kyllachy  82
Oasis Dream  77
Cape Cross  74
Ifraaj  72
Pastoral Pursuit 71

Give me a shout when a Coolmore stallion appears on sageform's list.

All change at the top and the AW bias is coming back. Acclamation is the first to reach 120, one ahead of Kodiac, while Ex and Ex is now on 114 after 2 more yesterday. For The Gotchee: Galileo is in 23rd place on 48 GB wins. Hope that speeds your recovery from what looks like a minor head cold.

Thanks sageform, good to hear that they have got one in the top 100

Kodiac still holding on to his lead after 2 more wins on Saturday.
GB wins to end October 2016.

Kodiac  124
Acclamation 120
Exceed and Excel  116
Shamardal 114
Invincible Spirit 110
Dubawi  96
Dark Angel 93
Kyllachy  86
Cape Cross 83
Oasis Dream 83
Pivotal  80.

Best 2nd season sires.
Equiano 58
Makfi 48
Showcasing 48
Paco Boy 44.

Eleven months gone.

Kodiac    130   
Exceed and Excel    124       
Acclamation    122       
Shamardal    118       
Invincible Spirit 115       
Dubawi    102       
Dark Angel    101       
Cape Cross    91       
Kyllachy    89       
Oasis Dream    88       
Pivotal    88       
Iffraj    82       
Pastoral Pursuit    82       
Dutch Art    79       
Bahamian Bounty    76       
Sir Percy    75       
Royal Applause    73       
Kheleyf    70       
Dansili    67       
Equiano    63       
Teofilo    60   

Kodiac needs 2 more wins to equal the all time calendar year record of 132 by Cape Cross in 2009.

Thanks Sageform.

Royal Applause doesn't get too many mentions on this site but he must be one of those stallions to go to with a maiden mare. He does get loads of winners.

Must be reaching the veteran stage by now but his son Acclamation is carrying on his line with even more success.

Kakashan was the 132nd GB win for Kodiac this evening-he now has 21 more days of AW to extend an impressive record.

Final standings for GB sires by flat winners in 2015. An appropriate result in the final flat race of the year was another win for Kodiac to extend the all time record of wins to 135. Eight sires with 100+ is also a first.

Kodiac       135
Exceed and Excel 130
Acclamation    128
Shamardal    121
Invincible Spirit 120
Dubawi      104
Dark Angel    104
Cape Cross    100
Oasis Dream    94
Pivotal     92
Kyllachy    91
Iffraj            88
Pastoral Pursuit 85
Dutch Art    80
Bahamian Bounty    79
Sir Percy    76
Royal Applause    76
Kheleyf    73
Dansili    69
Equiano    64
Teofilo    63

Is Coolmore gone out of business?

I can only report the facts. Coolmore dominate the Irish racing and when added to the GB stats, Galileo is well up the list but as my table shows, you need a sprinter/miler sire to get the quantity of winners. Sir Percy did really well to be the best Derby winner in the table by a mile.