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richard hughes on the tiggy wiggy
richard hughes on the tiggy wiggy
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Not much wrong with that run apart from it not winning. Would have fared much better if allowed its head. May not have stayed but surely it would have been better to find out letting the horse do her own thing! How many times do we see certain horses dropping in behind and sulking? Different horse will be seen next time out even if put back over shorter? Hannon camp guilty of trying something out without trying something out!!! If you get my drift!!
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Yes i know blackburn, but you can hardly start an argument with me for stating what i think will happen then sit on the fence yourself and bring out the 'not machines' card when i have merely stated my point.Again, I said I believed this before she run Saturday and that added to my belief.
When we find out find out she hasn't you'll say 'i never said she had trained on, they're not masheens  '  |
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McCarthy - No I won't I will merely say you were correct, if indeed it turns out she has NOT trained on. My view as stated below is that they will want to get "winning 3yo black type" and demonstrate that "she has trained on". My criticism of your comment is based entirely on what I regard as your unwarranted "certainty".
There is an interesting parallel between Tiggy Wiggy AND Indian Ink (of Hannon Sr's) here  . |
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fair enough, blackbarn. let's wait and see, all about opinions which is what the games about after all!
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Calling rmccarthy. Thoughts on today??
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Here it is rm. The parallel with Indian Ink gets stronger. Thoughts?
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Yes run a very good race, still i would like to see her actually win again at her preferred distance before we can say she's still top class, wouldn't you?
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or has actually retained the same ability ?
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Thanks rm - I have little to add to my post of 16.56 on the 20th. They have their black type, she has clearly trained on and placed in a Guineas is "top class". I agree with you though that it would be good to see her win a GP 1 at say six. We'll see.
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So if she failed to win another race at 5, 6 or 7 furlongs would you still say she has trained on and retained the same ability just because she was placed in a (poor) Guineas with everything in her favour i.e making her own pace, easy track, ground etc etc
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like we both said, we'll see what happens but just because i have a different opinion to you doesn't mean i'm wrong and your right
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I would say that most judges would say that being placed in a Guineas (even a poor one, which this one may not be) would be evidence that a filly has trained on. It is obvious that she needs to do more to show that she has improved significantly beyond the norm from 2 to 3 but that could easily be demonstrated even if she does not win another race - i.e by being placed in one or more all-sex all-age sprints over the balance of the season. I assume this will be their plan.
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Right you are, Shrewdie
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Glad we agree
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Clearly had us all over in the fred darling, if she had been allowed to bowl along, as in the guineas it would have been a totally different result.
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blackbarn, what do you think now?
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RM - found it. On reflection, little to add to my 6th May post.
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