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Come racing, the great Geoff Banks tell us. And I would, Geoff, if bookmakers such as your good self actually provided better prices than those which I can obtain from the comfort of my own living room.
Geoff, I refer you to last Tuesday and Friday at Cheltenham. I visited your pitch prior to every race bar two. On almost every occasion your prices on my fancies - some favourites, some outsiders - were inferior to those at a certain High Street bookie, who had a stand just a few metres away from you. And unlike you, they offered plenty of concessions, particularly with offers to pay out on an extra place in certain races. As a result of which it was a no-brainer as to who took my hard-earned cash.
It's all well and good spouting about High St bookies offering false money-back offers, as I notice you have done during the Festival via Twitter, but what do you and other independents offer, Geoff, to entice ordinary folk like me to bet with you?
I can actually answer that, as I notice you offer refunds on, say, 2-2 draws in football matches - which is just laughable. But fair play to you, at least you add five per cent to every deposit on your (terrible to browse) website.
Instead of spouting your rubbish on Channel Four's Morning Line and believing you are some sort of Jeremy Paxman for rubbing up Ruby Walsh the wrong way - and that's for another post on another day - why not take on the High St firms by beating their prices? Isn't that what your old man did, offering something different?
Once I've paid for transport, entry to a racecourse and food and booze, I want some value. Sadly, I may as well stick with betting exchanges and punting at home.
I took the opportunity of opening an account with you weeks before the Festival after I had been quoted a price for a certain horse I fancied.
When I opened the account, one of your footmen then offered me a shorter price than the one I had been quoted just hours previously! And I would be amazed if anyone had backed that same horse with you as an explanation for the price drop.
Oh, and great job by hiring the ex-Page 3 model to work on your pitch at Cheltenham.
She accidentally put an extra £20 on my stake on the one bet I did place with you, an 8-1 winner.
Finally, no doubt I won't be able to get a decent bet on at the same High St bookie that was near Banks's pitch until Aintree!
Geoff, I refer you to last Tuesday and Friday at Cheltenham. I visited your pitch prior to every race bar two. On almost every occasion your prices on my fancies - some favourites, some outsiders - were inferior to those at a certain High Street bookie, who had a stand just a few metres away from you. And unlike you, they offered plenty of concessions, particularly with offers to pay out on an extra place in certain races. As a result of which it was a no-brainer as to who took my hard-earned cash.
It's all well and good spouting about High St bookies offering false money-back offers, as I notice you have done during the Festival via Twitter, but what do you and other independents offer, Geoff, to entice ordinary folk like me to bet with you?
I can actually answer that, as I notice you offer refunds on, say, 2-2 draws in football matches - which is just laughable. But fair play to you, at least you add five per cent to every deposit on your (terrible to browse) website.
Instead of spouting your rubbish on Channel Four's Morning Line and believing you are some sort of Jeremy Paxman for rubbing up Ruby Walsh the wrong way - and that's for another post on another day - why not take on the High St firms by beating their prices? Isn't that what your old man did, offering something different?
Once I've paid for transport, entry to a racecourse and food and booze, I want some value. Sadly, I may as well stick with betting exchanges and punting at home.
I took the opportunity of opening an account with you weeks before the Festival after I had been quoted a price for a certain horse I fancied.
When I opened the account, one of your footmen then offered me a shorter price than the one I had been quoted just hours previously! And I would be amazed if anyone had backed that same horse with you as an explanation for the price drop.
Oh, and great job by hiring the ex-Page 3 model to work on your pitch at Cheltenham.
She accidentally put an extra £20 on my stake on the one bet I did place with you, an 8-1 winner.
Finally, no doubt I won't be able to get a decent bet on at the same High St bookie that was near Banks's pitch until Aintree!
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Welcome to the forum ThePin.
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Ex page 3 girl now an ex Banks employee.
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Geoff sayed ...
quote The 2015 cheltenham festival – the grubbie bookie’s view 1489328_10153566948910012_1046682886_n I suppose all racing fans grew up with great memories of Cheltenham in March. I recall as a boy, betting in the underaged class, on the Cheltenham rail into the members enclosure, nobody was surprised in those days to be served by a 13 year old – that you just couldn’t move for the absolute crush of humanity. Most of whom appeared to be called Mick. Although a few were Paddy’s. These days we’d invent a quango to count them by age, sex, social class and type of BMW I prepare for Cheltenham months in advance by calling up the babestation offices to see if any of their talent is free. I got one. Brandy Brewer was her stage name. I think we should all have stage names, don’t you agree? So we downloaded an app (and you said I was a dinosaur?) put in our names and received new ‘porn star’ equivalents. I was Dan Cucumber. I was quite pleased with that. I added two more lusty girls, bearing in mind sex sells. That I have absolutely no morals whatsoever. That it would upset the gambling commission. That some fellahs would hang around even after I’d emptied all their pocket change, asking daft questions like – how big are they when they’re out? You get the picture Just in case any mary Whitehouse types were lurking, I threw in a couple of old grizzlies who have worked for me forever and never break a nail. We jumped into our Bentleys for the Cotswolds. And Mulllins. mullins It’s all about Mullins you see. Henderson has voted himself a non runner these days, as he declares the entire season to date as ‘soft’. The galactacos of racing who’ve won very little of late. One day they’ll whisper in his ear that cotton wooling of stars is a miserable failure, horses need to race, and the giant that is Seven Barrows will wake up to find Paul Nicholls has been eating his lunch for months. I’d like to see that, Henderson is a decent chap and we desperately need competition The run up to the great party gives our beloved journalists to call up their three favourite trainers. Pre requisite to any convo is to get in early and often the phrase ‘it’s a privilege’ – or you’re struck off ze list of approved hacks. Lesser trainers don’t have phones and who’s interested in Hobbs or Bradstock anyway? ATR extend ‘Bookie hour’ to a 3 hour slot daily. Tarts.. It was all about Faugheen, Vautour, Douvan, Un De Sceaux, Annie Power and Don Poli. Throw in Peace and Co for good measure. The average SP of the first 4 mentioned this year in all races? 3/10. Gripping stuff we’ve been treated to. Thanks Willie- you deserve a few quid extra in your wages at Cheltenham Of course we know now – only one got beat, courtesy of the biggest howler in racing for many a years as she grinned at the crowd and paddled the last. Been a long time since I heard such a moan. Genuine shock – the biggest fail at the Festival since I tried chatting up Emma Spencer. Multiple bets up and down the land were waiting on her due diligence. Walsh set it up and she fluffed her lines ap There will be those of you, reading this, who take the view betting is the dirty end of the sport. That it’s all about breeding and the majesty of the horse. You’re the type who adores a 5 runner race. You don’t care if Faugheen is 1/6 as he powers away from horses two stone inferior. You don’t care if The New One or Annie Power are doing the same in Haydock or Leopardstown. It’s all magnificent. Actually, you’re already dead and on the Eastbourne hall of fame. Check yourself Well for those of you who don’t care about betting or the bookies, give yourself a pinch. Because I assume you care about the finances underpinning the sport? You want owners properly rewarded, yes? Well to educate you, the Levy Board was about to have a crisis meeting had Annie duly obliged, such would the whole have been in the finances of the sport. ap2 (so good – I put it in twice..) You see, racing is about the punters – they fund it. You think Steve Harman’s ‘racing right’ is coming to save you? Ha! The commercial acumen in racing has always lain with the bookies. They did their stones at Royal Ascot, King George and sundry other ‘biggies’. But you’re looking at their bottom lines – aren’t you? trilby Modern racing festivals these days in betting terms are characterised by ‘offers’. Credit to some firms ie Betfair (did I just plug Betfair? I need a shower! Who described their offers as what they were- free bets. Companies who did not distinguish themselves led by Paddy Power and ****, who fronted with money back offers – that were nothing of the kind. I think this odious practice should be stopped. Cats being kicked into trees has to stay :) On the plus side, firms like Paddy Power are giving their customers some amazing offers – I’ve never seen the likes of some of the deals they do, even if you’re only getting an extra bet, it’s still a lot more than in days of yore. What concerns me, is they’re mainly targeted at racing. It simply cannot be good for the sport for the number one festival the vehicle for ‘new business,’ rather than profiting from the racing itself. Take Peace and Co for example. A rock solid 2/1 chance for months- 4/1 in the morning. Not good, not good at all. Brewer08_main Thursday morning, Brandy broke a nail. It was so sudden I don’t think any of us expected it. The wailing and sobbing was akin to Annie Power’s departure from the festival. One moment – ten perfect porcelein fakes – the next- nine., Brandy wasn’t in the best of spirit. Punters were clambering over each other – not for her – but to press guinness sodden fivers in her hand for horses, fart and leave. What’s this about? This never happened at Babestation. She only had to flash her tatas and the phones would buzz. Anyway, to her eternal credit, this girl has guts for sure, she knuckled down and gave Vicky (AKA – Ritzy Jiggler) and Stephanie (Tara Cream) a hand in fending off the drunken. Some of which were bookies, a lot appeared to be jilted ex’s of Stephanie. Brandy will be back next year to entertain the masses we hope In keeping with gambling commission edict 198.259 sub section 5 ‘dealing with total morons’ – we checked with everyone if they were over the age of 13 and not in fact in the paid employ of the commission itself trying to catch us out. By Friday morning – I was in a shell shocked state, given depressing results, and the prospect of shaming myself on the Morning Line Saturday- my office had taken the phones off the hook and the website down. Come back Ffos Las, all is forgiven. Results outside the championship races were pretty fair – especially the ridiculous plunge on China Doll in the Queen Mother Champion Chase. Surely more likely to pull up than compete seriously? It was a festival for the new. The performance of the meeting wasn’t the unchallenged Vautour for me – nor Faugheen, but the Denman-esque performance of Conygree. By the start of the 2nd circuit, he had many class performers firmly off the bridle. He quite simply ran them all into the ground. And who WAS that jockey?? conygree Surely the BHA should lamp Bradstock with a 60 day ban for ‘upstaging Mullins’? Well done to the authority, however, for having the last ‘laugh’ as usual and a whip ban in the gold cup to a lesser jockey – they never disappoint Was it the best Festival in modern times? – that’s hard to say, Loads of talking points. it certainly was out with the old and in with the new. Everyone knows I worry about the all enveloping nature of it. Months of discussing five runner graded events and odds on chances is something a caring authority wants to take very seriously, with the prospect of a repeat next year. I have one suggestion, which will have some people nodding in approval, the purists in horror, and the BHA copping a deaf un. That Mares race. 6 years in a row a grade one animal reducing the worst rated event at the meeting to somewhat of a procession. Not really the point is it? Not good for the finances non plus. Perhaps an upper rating level of some description? We all know Annie Power will line up again next year – but in reality she should be in the World Hurdle, and not hiding away in selling class. NAP I always mention the whiners. Taking a break from the Betfair Forum. Those who moan about Channel 4’s coverage could only be uber impressed at some of the amazing images treated to our screens, the features, the slo mo’s. Fine, I’m an occasional guest, but I’m entitled to an opinion and in comparison to the beeb? No comparison. Enjoy the float race Clare. Dreadful choice over the Grand National, really it is. But we’ll have Luck and Gok- fair trade. apm And finally, yes, you made it. To one jockey. Given the amounts of cash I’ve heaved out over the years over this man, the times I’ve cursed the man, you might be surprised I’m as teary as the rest of you at the departure of a legend. I think to put it into some kind of perspective, the British public admire most the total and unadulterred energy he put into every ride. His iron will over sometimes doubtful horses. It’s a shame Jonjos stable has been in such miserable form this season or he would have signed off with more winners. AP has carried himself wih humility and class and gave every punter 100% commitment. That’s why they love him. And I will very much miss the very engine of National Hunt Racing. |
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That girl is a great worker....she works her arrse off.....not afraid to sweat a bit either....
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the pin
did you tell her about the extra £20 or did you just keep it for yourself ? |
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https://simonnottracing.wordpress.com/2015/03/11/tales-from-the-betting-ring-the-festival-ladies-day-110315/
Check out Brandy and Co here ^^^^^^^ |
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joined today for that..ffs...
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bragging about cheating a bookmaker out of £ 20 with an employee error which could lose her her job..very clever
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THE PIN,YOUR OPENING STATEMENT SAYS IT ALL,IF YOU CHOSE TO BET WERE THE WORSE PRICES ON THE TRACK ARE BEING OFFERED THEN QUITE FRANKLY YOU DESERVE WHAT YOU GET,PLUS WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND BETS WITH HILLS OR LADBROKES ON OR OFF COURSE,NEXT TIME YOU GO RACING LOOK PAST THE FRONT LINE IN TATTS,HOPE THIS HELPS!
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adge, sounds like £180 to me.
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someone comes on a forum admits to obtaining £180 in a dishonest manner interesting.
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ThePin looks another good acquisition for the forum.
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Give him a break.
If Banks wants to hire some bimbo as a cheap publicity shot then he should make sure he watches her like a hawk. |
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Interesting read. I agree with him about the CH4 coverage. It was very good in almost all respects.
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. AP has carried himself wih humility and class and gave every punter 100% commitment.
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fair play to geoff he did have the best looking girls on the joint.shall i let you into a little secret the people who stand up for the high st bookmakers at the race track its not there money theyare on wages ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssh
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Didn't Barry big mouth have topless bimbo's at R A some years ago ?...
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Racing colours painted on their three-pennies !
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jeff takes on the big hitters when hes got 140 on the board what gives him a massive edge, an
its a different type of market than the shop offers what are restricted and a cheap form of advertising for the offcourse firms. |
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when i used to go racing geoff would lay a decent bet but that was some time ago
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More birds with big knockers please geoffrey
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To The Pin - yet another anonymous
I'm to respond to someone who effectively defrauded me of £160? - and proudly declares it on here? Want a response, refund to me to the penny exactly what you would expect me to do if an error occured in my favour. |
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I see many posters agreeing with my earlier response here. I add my thanks. Will it result in £180 being returned by the anonymous who started up this thread - sadly I think not - however I am always heartened there are many many good punters out there who see gambling as still a fair bet between two parties.
TO that end I will continue to fight such as Paddy Power for making claims as to money back- which turn out to be 'free wagers' - there's a clear distinction and I believe many would agree with that |
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Geoff, many thanks for your response - and for replying to all the points raised. Your footman quoted me a different price to the one given to me before (read my post) cost me a three-figure sum.
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Should of asked ''Brandy'' for the wager !
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^ 'to accommodate you' better !
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Halcyon.....smiley faces are primarily used when somebody writes something with a bit of humour attached.....sadly what you have written is humourless and therefore wouldn't qualify .... Running after your "pal" john mustang is a pursuit that suits you much better rather than trying to be funny....
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It's The Tehran Cowboy !
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The no. 1 person to rate jockey performance's on this forum !
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Bit early for you isn't it Paulie? Is it signing on day today?
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Btw well nuts, Irish people are not noted for being dim as regards wit !
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i think you can ask a fair question of a bookmaker, but frankly it's probably better to do it face to face or via personal message, email etc
gloating about doing someone for a few quid diminishes any point you have, bad form imo if i were gb, i wouldn't give you the time of day and the fact that he's even bothered to reply in a reasonably dignified way (although he sounds pished off lol) is decent of him |
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Fair points .
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and just to add, the joining date is new as pointed out above, yet you know he posts on here as sportsadvisor
that leads me to think you've created a new account just to post that question rather than use an existing account which you normally post on so you're not new, which makes you look a bit of a coward in hiding |
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Yes, the very recent joining date gives it away somewhat as a duplicate account.
The fact also that the OP can string a sentence together and is reasonably articulate means that we can disregard 95% of the existing posters on here and therefore we have a small sample left to choose from as to whom it may be. |
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Just to save you guys some time and energy, I am a NEW poster. Thanks.
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And my dick's a kipper.
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ThePin has admitted knowingly taking more money off GB than he was due, could GB request Betfair to supply him with 'ThePin's' details so he can attempt to recover the money he mistakenly paid out ?
Of course the sum is a paltry one so it's probably not worth the bother. |
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NO BUT THE POLICE CAN!
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