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Un De Sceaux - MAXIMUM FULL BANK LAY
Un De Sceaux - MAXIMUM FULL BANK LAY
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front runners have a poor record in this race
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no doubting horses form
but round here nice to have won here before but price very short.... |
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having just watched its last 4 runs again i cant see why you calling it a ''nutjob'...
yes it races freely in front and spreadeagles the field from a long way out. its a very slick jumper and there's no telling how good it is. i can see it error free being clear at the last and coasting in. by laying you could look very stupid. it looks a superstar. |
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I think it's too short to back but those calling it a 'nutjob' are being very unfair IMO. Just a free going sort.
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What has he beat? Trifolium was just as impressive in the Irish Arkle beating a much better field and only 3.8 seconds slower than UDS on much heavier ground. But he wasnt unbeaten in completed starts and trained by Mullins. There has been numerous impressive winners of the Irish Arkle over the years and I think only 2 have followed up at Cheltenham in the last 30 years.
UDS has been well placed in his career, the Arkle was his first try at a Grade 1 level and it was a Grade 1 in name only, he has been streeting handicappers in Ireland on heavy ground for 2 years. He has met one legit horse in his career for me and that is the French horse Gemix who is better over further and was giving UDS 7 pounds. UDS - 15 lengths lead approaching 2 out, 5 lengths clear jumping last, soon ridden and held on gamely Gemix - snk 2nd 5 lengths 2nd jumping last, ridden and ran on run-in, just failed to get up Some dreamers think he has earned the right to be 8/11 for an Arkle, 4/7 until recently, and he only has to stand up, they cant see the wood for the 1s. I accept the opposition isnt the strongest but on paper he is a 7/4 shot at best and when you factor in that he is completely uncontrollable, untested at the level or on the ground, id be wanting at least 5/2 to even consider him a bet. If you cant lay this you cant lay anything. |
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What about Clarcam?
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Ask yourself in 2 years time "what about Clarcam" when he is running down the field in some Grade 3 at Down Royal.
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Maybe so, but in the here and now; he dished out a good beating to some good horses. Even if Vautour was wrong that day, he beat a very good handicapper in Ted Veale by a wide margin. No mug IMO.
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My problem with this thread is the use of Neymar JR going down ,had OP said Monica Lewinsky
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Trifolium had been hammered many times though, & his win was on Sft/Hvy. UDS is practically unbeaten in many races, and his win was on Yld/Sft.
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I've backed 'Vibrato Valtat' at 6/1 BOG and with a money back guarantee if 'Un De Sceaux' wins!
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Josses Hill at 12/1 with money back if fav wins. This ran a decent race behind Vautour last year. The bigger field will suit, placed in all it races and with Geraghty on board. Fav will only lose if falling, prefer my bet to a place lay which is very negative.
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i bet you are **** a brick op. good luck.
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YOU WANT CUSTARD WITH THE HUMBLE PIE U ORDERED?
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You sure about this opening poster?
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EPIC FAIL
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££££££££££££££££££
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lead from the start and never in trouble
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Whoops. Mental issues??
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steering job imo,rip the bookies
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Hope he didn't lay with full bank
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What a full BANKER!
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Meeting of Brain for OP
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Aaah great horse. 8-11. Only a small dent but that was sheer class
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5/1 coming to last..greened up
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Time for a new username I think OP!
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Trifolium?????
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You are a top judge !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Day 2 start with new bank.
OP wasnt convinced b4 irish Arkle nor after. Wonder if he is now |
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I respect anyone who gives an opinion and posts their bet...fair play
just cudnt agree with the 'nutjob' description. |
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Genius
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Run it again tomorrow I will take him on again.
Good horse and he handled the occassion so fair play, got it badly wrong but ill get him in the Champion Chase next year. |
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Stop Digging please
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 "Un De Sceaux - MAXIMUM FULL BANK LAY" |
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so much for the much vaunted Nicholl's one
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To get it that wrong would indicate you are clueless
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Maybe there is something wrong with my brain, but there is nothing wrong with my heart.
Was a good buzz, thought I had him going to the last. |