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I can confirm that this WILL go ahead this year and the first bet or lay will be posted now
As many people know, this began in 2002 and is the highlight of the year for all Betfair forumites. The £30,000 has been won in 8 out of 12 years.
Newcomers, please note:
1. There is no middle ground - by the close of play on Friday, either the £30k will be won or the £5k will be lost.
2. There are no guarantees in racing - 8 times we have won £30k, but 4 times we have lost £5k.
3. Obviously that is a net profit of £180,000 but there are no certainties year on year.
4. All bets or lays are either based on inside information (I place bets in the Far East for "certain people") or my opinion. No clarification will be given on any bet - you can either follow or leave.
5. Obviously you are equally welcome to turn £500 to £3000, or even £50 to £300.......the stakes are entirely your own choice.
6. Ignorant sorts who write "post your bets" will be duly ignored and blocked.
7. And just to clarify I posted as "Grave Dodger" for about 6 years before switching accounts and posting as "GraveDodger" for the past 7 years or so.
8. This is a special gift from me to the world and ONLY operates for Cheltenham. Please do not beg me to do this for other big meetings, or ask me to give you private bets. No matter what money you offer me, all such requests will be met with a polite refusal.
9. The target is £30k from a starting bank of £5k. So that will be £25,000 clear profit. Once the profit is reached, all bets STOP, even if it happens on Day One.
10. There will not be bets in every race, and I will always tell you when the next bet is due to be given out. Most investments will actually be lays.
Good luck to everyone. The first investment will be given now:
BET 1 = LAY DOUVAN for £4000 at about 3.0 to win a profit of £2000 - all is not what it seems here, the horse is decent enough but this race will not suit - expect it to LOSE!!!!!
STARTING BANK = 5000
CURRENT BANK = 5000
Current profit = 0
As many people know, this began in 2002 and is the highlight of the year for all Betfair forumites. The £30,000 has been won in 8 out of 12 years.
Newcomers, please note:
1. There is no middle ground - by the close of play on Friday, either the £30k will be won or the £5k will be lost.
2. There are no guarantees in racing - 8 times we have won £30k, but 4 times we have lost £5k.
3. Obviously that is a net profit of £180,000 but there are no certainties year on year.
4. All bets or lays are either based on inside information (I place bets in the Far East for "certain people") or my opinion. No clarification will be given on any bet - you can either follow or leave.
5. Obviously you are equally welcome to turn £500 to £3000, or even £50 to £300.......the stakes are entirely your own choice.
6. Ignorant sorts who write "post your bets" will be duly ignored and blocked.
7. And just to clarify I posted as "Grave Dodger" for about 6 years before switching accounts and posting as "GraveDodger" for the past 7 years or so.
8. This is a special gift from me to the world and ONLY operates for Cheltenham. Please do not beg me to do this for other big meetings, or ask me to give you private bets. No matter what money you offer me, all such requests will be met with a polite refusal.
9. The target is £30k from a starting bank of £5k. So that will be £25,000 clear profit. Once the profit is reached, all bets STOP, even if it happens on Day One.
10. There will not be bets in every race, and I will always tell you when the next bet is due to be given out. Most investments will actually be lays.
Good luck to everyone. The first investment will be given now:
BET 1 = LAY DOUVAN for £4000 at about 3.0 to win a profit of £2000 - all is not what it seems here, the horse is decent enough but this race will not suit - expect it to LOSE!!!!!
STARTING BANK = 5000
CURRENT BANK = 5000
Current profit = 0
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evening fav week of the year all the best gravedodger
Godo luck, big lump of bank gone if does not go to plan.
yes - u r right that we are risking a big chunk on race 1, but we have to take some risks to reach 30k and we could not lay annie power or faugheen so this is the most vulnerable of the short price favs on day one and we need to stick our neck out on this one
there will be stronger lays later in the week - if we survive past day one this year (!!)
win or lose then bet number 2 will be in race 2, the arkle!!
there will be stronger lays later in the week - if we survive past day one this year (!!)
win or lose then bet number 2 will be in race 2, the arkle!!
Wow in at the deep end here Gravey, tin helmets on chargeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee wish u the best of luck but i'm out.
GraveDodger
GraveDodger 10 Mar 14 22:04 Joined: 10 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 285 | Blogger: GraveDodger's blog
STARTING BANK = 5000
CURRENT BANK = 5000
Current profit =0
BET ONE = LAY ENTIRE BANK ON VAUTOUR NOT TO WIN THE 1.30 (SUPREME NOVICES)AT AROUND 5.0
BET TWO = posted at 1.55pm
There are FOUR massive bets planned for Day 1. We may or may not play around with a small part of the profits as well.
Vautour is the big hope for Ireland and is a remarkable 6 pounds clear top rated on bhb official ratings - for many this SEEMS like it is almost a penalty-kick.........but sometimes things are not always as straightforward as they seem to be. Gravedodger is ADAMANT that Vautour cannot win this race - he has told his friends to lay it until the blood is dripping from their nostrils. It now forms the first leg of our £30,000 challenge.
Do not waste my time asking if it is also a place lay. It does not matter. All that matters is that it MUST NOT WIN. Entire bank for the week staked on the first race!!!!!!!!! Gravedodger is ever so confident that we will get a good start here. I will post again after the race.
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GraveDodger 10 Mar 14 22:04 Joined: 10 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 285 | Blogger: GraveDodger's blog
STARTING BANK = 5000
CURRENT BANK = 5000
Current profit =0
BET ONE = LAY ENTIRE BANK ON VAUTOUR NOT TO WIN THE 1.30 (SUPREME NOVICES)AT AROUND 5.0
BET TWO = posted at 1.55pm
There are FOUR massive bets planned for Day 1. We may or may not play around with a small part of the profits as well.
Vautour is the big hope for Ireland and is a remarkable 6 pounds clear top rated on bhb official ratings - for many this SEEMS like it is almost a penalty-kick.........but sometimes things are not always as straightforward as they seem to be. Gravedodger is ADAMANT that Vautour cannot win this race - he has told his friends to lay it until the blood is dripping from their nostrils. It now forms the first leg of our £30,000 challenge.
Do not waste my time asking if it is also a place lay. It does not matter. All that matters is that it MUST NOT WIN. Entire bank for the week staked on the first race!!!!!!!!! Gravedodger is ever so confident that we will get a good start here. I will post again after the race.
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Always a great read this one - better luck this year Gravedodger 
GraveDogger, can you please confirm that you busto after only one bet in 2014 and that you busto after two bets in 2013 ?
What could possibly go wrong this year ?
What could possibly go wrong this year ?
6. Ignorant sorts who write "post your bets" will be duly ignored and blocked.
what I don't get is the insistence on stopping when you reach the target ;even on the first day'
why not take the profit out and start again with the original stake?
leaving money on the table in theory
why not take the profit out and start again with the original stake?
leaving money on the table in theory
Looks like you only have 1 horse running for you...
Very difficult to make money laying at Cheltenham ... big fields, chaotic (in the mathematical sense) markets, hugely emotional stuff happening with pricing (generally no logic). Gravedodger is living (??) proof.
Take my advice and just watch and buy a lottery ticket instead.
Take my advice and just watch and buy a lottery ticket instead.
Great to see the best comedy thread of the year back once again.
well this end first bet like last year
gravedigger digs his own grave again
gravedigger digs his own grave again
It's at times like this I miss Zodiac.
Gravedodger & Zodiac ... bookends in their own lifetime.
And didn't they make us laugh!
Gravedodger & Zodiac ... bookends in their own lifetime.
And didn't they make us laugh!
club 20 - yes bust after 1 bet in 2014 but won the 30k in 2013
as it says on the opening thread we have succeeded 8 times and lost 4 times - whether you lose after race 1 or after race 24 doesnt really matter
the point is that when we lose we lose 5k but when we win we win 25k profit so if we even won 1 year out of 5 we would be in profit, so winning 8 times out of 12 gives nearly £1/4m profit to followers of this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as it says on the opening thread we have succeeded 8 times and lost 4 times - whether you lose after race 1 or after race 24 doesnt really matter
the point is that when we lose we lose 5k but when we win we win 25k profit so if we even won 1 year out of 5 we would be in profit, so winning 8 times out of 12 gives nearly £1/4m profit to followers of this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I remember you telling everyone Moscow Flyer should be a 20-1 shot and couldnt possibly win before it won at EVENS at Aintree.
out on the first race again. you got to stop with this method of lay the first jolly numpty
GD on the canvas in the first round,can he come back from this.
Come on GraveDodger, you still have a grand to play with, you can do this !
and lets all laugh at all his wee sheep
YOURE THE MAN GRAVY
YOURE THE MAN GRAVY
People who laugh are the people who cant even commit to Betfair's minimum stakes.
BET 2 = Arkle:
VIBRATO VOLTAT £800 win at 6/1
THREE KINGDOMS £200 win at 25/1
STARTING BANK = 5000
CURRENT BANK = 1000
Current profit = -£4000
VIBRATO VOLTAT £800 win at 6/1
THREE KINGDOMS £200 win at 25/1
STARTING BANK = 5000
CURRENT BANK = 1000
Current profit = -£4000
STARTING BANK = 5000
CURRENT BANK = 1000
Current profit = -£4000
Did the 'bold' button pack up on your laptop?
CURRENT BANK = 1000
Current profit = -£4000
Did the 'bold' button pack up on your laptop?
Whoof Hearted
Whoof Hearted 10 Mar 15 13:41 Joined: 13 Apr 08 | Topic/replies: 18 | Blogger: Whoof Hearted's blog
People who laugh are the people who cant even commit to Betfair's minimum stakes.
Whoof Hearted 10 Mar 15 13:41 Joined: 13 Apr 08 | Topic/replies: 18 | Blogger: Whoof Hearted's blog
People who laugh are the people who cant even commit to Betfair's minimum stakes.
From a Liverpool fan as well....I love Cheltenham!!!
From a Liverpool fan as well....I love Cheltenham!!!
Here Gravy...you love the Supreme eh?
Vautour -£5000
Douvan -£4000
RichRicci just
Vautour -£5000
Douvan -£4000
Rich
Ricci just
Perhaps £400 EW VV would have been more helpful, a good chance to win and still remain in the game - your balls deep now.
8. This is a special gift from me to the world and ONLY operates for Cheltenham. Please do not beg me to do this for other big meetings
If bet 2 fails then i thank you all for tuning in and i look forward to meeting you all again on here in 12 months time for another shot at winning £30k and wish that you all enjoy the remainder of cheltenham.
GOODBYE FOR ANOTHER YEAR !!!!!
(PS if we do win the arkle - then i will be back on here in the next half hour!)
GOODBYE FOR ANOTHER YEAR !!!!!
(PS if we do win the arkle - then i will be back on here in the next half hour!)
Mar 10, 2015 -- 8:49AM, TOP3MAN wrote:
The chase is on
By that comment I'm guessing your a United fan fan?
Mar 10, 2015 -- 9:02AM, Whoof Hearted wrote:
Mar 10, 2015 -- 1:49PM, TOP3MAN wrote:The chase is onBy that comment I'm guessing your a United fan fan?
Quited wrongly was aimed @TheCollector
See ya later Gravy!!
Away after 1 last year
Away after 2 this year
Wonder if this mug will actually see out the first day next year?
Away after 1 last year
Away after 2 this year
Wonder if this mug will actually see out the first day next year?
Kin hell have you ever heard about paceing yourself, theres 4 days for fack sake - but it was a joke thread was'nt it 
At least you have been consistent Gravy, doing your entire bank in the first two races for 3 years on the trot is pretty damn impressive.
If your lay had lost and your 2 to win - if even 1 of them would have come in - then you'd be in clover.
However, your lay won and your bets to win lost.
If only you'd done it the other way round, then they wouldn't be laughing at you now.
But as it is ... ad infinitum.
PS, what's your day job? Must be something to do with comedy ...
However, your lay won and your bets to win lost.
If only you'd done it the other way round, then they wouldn't be laughing at you now.
But as it is ...
ad infinitum.PS, what's your day job? Must be something to do with comedy ...
Gravy...whats the lay in the Champion Hurdle?
Gravy....?
Gravy??????
Anyone seen Gravy??
Gravy....?
Gravy??????
Anyone seen Gravy??
Is it happening this year,some ole names on this thread....
Judorick
Judorick
Cracking thread right up there with obeone all those years ago.
swimming across the English Channel with the Mother in law on his back
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