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GraveDodger
09 Mar 15 21:42
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I can confirm that this WILL go ahead this year and the first bet or lay will be posted now
As many people know, this began in 2002 and is the highlight of the year for all Betfair forumites. The £30,000 has been won in 8 out of 12 years.

Newcomers, please note:
1. There is no middle ground - by the close of play on Friday, either the £30k will be won or the £5k will be lost.
2. There are no guarantees in racing - 8 times we have won £30k, but 4 times we have lost £5k.
3. Obviously that is a net profit of £180,000 but there are no certainties year on year.
4. All bets or lays are either based on inside information (I place bets in the Far East for "certain people") or my opinion. No clarification will be given on any bet - you can either follow or leave.
5. Obviously you are equally welcome to turn £500 to £3000, or even £50 to £300.......the stakes are entirely your own choice.
6. Ignorant sorts who write "post your bets" will be duly ignored and blocked.
7. And just to clarify I posted as "Grave Dodger" for about 6 years before switching accounts and posting as "GraveDodger" for the past 7 years or so.
8. This is a special gift from me to the world and ONLY operates for Cheltenham. Please do not beg me to do this for other big meetings, or ask me to give you private bets. No matter what money you offer me, all such requests will be met with a polite refusal.
9. The target is £30k from a starting bank of £5k. So that will be £25,000 clear profit. Once the profit is reached, all bets STOP, even if it happens on Day One.
10. There will not be bets in every race, and I will always tell you when the next bet is due to be given out. Most investments will actually be lays.

Good luck to everyone. The first investment will be given now:

BET 1 = LAY DOUVAN for £4000 at about 3.0 to win a profit of £2000 - all is not what it seems here, the horse is decent enough but this race will not suit - expect it to LOSE!!!!!

STARTING BANK = 5000
CURRENT BANK = 5000

Current profit = 0

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By:
11kv
When: 09 Mar 15 21:46
Thank you.
By:
saddo
When: 09 Mar 15 21:47
Evening, gravy.
By:
needsomeluck
When: 09 Mar 15 21:52
evening fav week of the year all the best gravedodger
By:
AFTERTHOUGHT
When: 09 Mar 15 22:48
Godo luck, big lump of bank gone if does not go to plan.
By:
Dav_vin03
When: 09 Mar 15 23:08
all the best
By:
xmoneyx
When: 09 Mar 15 23:22
epic thread
By:
GraveDodger
When: 09 Mar 15 23:31
yes - u r right that we are risking a big chunk on race 1, but we have to take some risks to reach 30k and we could not lay annie power or faugheen so this is the most vulnerable of the short price favs on day one and we need to stick our neck out on this one
there will be stronger lays later in the week - if we survive past day one this year (!!)

win or lose then bet number 2 will be in race 2, the arkle!!
By:
never give up
When: 09 Mar 15 23:45
is this monopoly money
By:
Irish are lucky
When: 09 Mar 15 23:53
Welcome back gravy
By:
PMac
When: 09 Mar 15 23:55
Cool all aboard the gravey train gl
By:
throwthetellyoutawindow
When: 10 Mar 15 00:05
Wow in at the deep end here Gravey, tin helmets on chargeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee wish u the best of luck but i'm out.
By:
TheCollector
When: 10 Mar 15 00:07
GraveDodger
GraveDodger 10 Mar 14 22:04 Joined: 10 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 285 | Blogger: GraveDodger's blog
STARTING BANK = 5000
CURRENT BANK = 5000
Current profit =0
BET ONE = LAY ENTIRE BANK ON VAUTOUR NOT TO WIN THE 1.30 (SUPREME NOVICES)AT AROUND 5.0
BET TWO = posted at 1.55pm

There are FOUR massive bets planned for Day 1. We may or may not play around with a small part of the profits as well.
Vautour is the big hope for Ireland and is a remarkable 6 pounds clear top rated on bhb official ratings - for many this SEEMS like it is almost a penalty-kick.........but sometimes things are not always as straightforward as they seem to be. Gravedodger is ADAMANT that Vautour cannot win this race - he has told his friends to lay it until the blood is dripping from their nostrils. It now forms the first leg of our £30,000 challenge.

Do not waste my time asking if it is also a place lay. It does not matter. All that matters is that it MUST NOT WIN. Entire bank for the week staked on the first race!!!!!!!!! Gravedodger is ever so confident that we will get a good start here. I will post again after the race.
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By:
shearer2therestcue
When: 10 Mar 15 00:33
Always a great read this one - better luck this year Gravedodger CoolCoolCool
By:
club20
When: 10 Mar 15 00:45
GraveDogger, can you please confirm that you busto after only one bet in 2014 and that you busto after two bets in 2013 ?
What could possibly go wrong this year ?
By:
Gracie
When: 10 Mar 15 01:25
Good luck gravey!!! Love this thread.
By:
casemoney
When: 10 Mar 15 01:33
Do you have a Gardner grave ?
By:
casemoney
When: 10 Mar 15 01:34
6. Ignorant sorts who write "post your bets" will be duly ignored and blocked.

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By:
cooper444
When: 10 Mar 15 02:48
gravy gravy gravy
By:
judorick
When: 10 Mar 15 02:54
what I don't get is the insistence on stopping when you reach the target ;even on the first day'

why not take the profit out and start again with the original stake?

leaving money on the table in theory
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 10 Mar 15 04:22
Looks like you only have 1 horse running for you...
By:
mememe
When: 10 Mar 15 12:23
Very difficult to make money laying at Cheltenham ... big fields, chaotic (in the mathematical sense) markets, hugely emotional stuff happening with pricing (generally no logic).  Gravedodger is living (??) proof.

Take my advice and just watch and buy a lottery ticket instead.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 10 Mar 15 12:46
Great to see the best comedy thread of the year back once again.
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 10 Mar 15 13:03
well this end first bet like last year

gravedigger digs his own grave again Laugh
By:
mememe
When: 10 Mar 15 13:11
It's at times like this I miss Zodiac.

Gravedodger & Zodiac ... bookends in their own lifetime.

And didn't they make us laugh!
By:
Platini
When: 10 Mar 15 13:45
welcome back GD. Cool
By:
GraveDodger
When: 10 Mar 15 14:21
club 20 - yes bust after 1 bet in 2014 but won the 30k in 2013
as it says on the opening thread we have succeeded 8 times and lost 4 times - whether you lose after race 1 or after race 24 doesnt really matter

the point is that when we lose we lose 5k but when we win we win 25k profit so if we even won 1 year out of 5 we would be in profit, so winning 8 times out of 12 gives nearly £1/4m profit to followers of this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By:
Dotchinite
When: 10 Mar 15 14:23
I remember you telling everyone Moscow Flyer should be a 20-1 shot and couldnt possibly win before it won at EVENS at Aintree.
By:
MrBaboon
When: 10 Mar 15 14:26
Good luck interesting to see if you make it
By:
hollyday
When: 10 Mar 15 14:28
GL Grave Hope you do it
By:
TOP3MAN
When: 10 Mar 15 14:35
out on the first race again. you got to stop with this method of lay the first jolly numpty
By:
TRD.Racing
When: 10 Mar 15 14:35
Dear oh dear
By:
AFTERTHOUGHT
When: 10 Mar 15 14:35
Ah well see ya next year
By:
saddo
When: 10 Mar 15 14:35
rofl.
By:
club20
When: 10 Mar 15 14:35
Shocked
By:
Irish are lucky
When: 10 Mar 15 14:36
Oh

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By:
xmoneyx
When: 10 Mar 15 14:36
CryWhoops
By:
hollyday
When: 10 Mar 15 14:37
he still has a grand to play with
By:
TRD.Racing
When: 10 Mar 15 14:37
GD on the canvas in the first round,can he come back from this.
By:
club20
When: 10 Mar 15 14:37
Come on GraveDodger, you still have a grand to play with, you can do this !
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