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geoff m
08 Mar 15 12:34
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Report ETID March 8, 2015 1:07 PM GMT
Worse than pathetic, it is embarrassing. Hope it loses so he is finally exposed as the fraud he is. Like big fat mac when he said zenyatta couldn't beat the boys.
Report brendrew March 8, 2015 1:24 PM GMT
whats he said?
Report cufcno1 March 8, 2015 1:25 PM GMT
He is right though,faugheen will smash the field !
Report MJK March 8, 2015 1:25 PM GMT
Remember if the evens favourite wins it will be all down to Chapman. If it loses it will be all down to the ground.
Report ETID March 8, 2015 1:25 PM GMT
This is cheltenham mate, unless you are Istabraq no one smashes the field
Report cufcno1 March 8, 2015 1:28 PM GMT
Listen mate..this horse is as good as istabraq
Report .Fidway. March 8, 2015 1:30 PM GMT
Whats the best horse that Faugheen has beat?
Report cufcno1 March 8, 2015 1:33 PM GMT
What's the best horse the new one has beat,or for that matter what was the best horse istabraq beat? It's stalemate theatreworld !
Report ETID March 8, 2015 1:36 PM GMT
Istabraq smashed the field repeatedly at Cheltenham pal. That is good enough for me. Until I see another do that then I will remain cynical.
Report cufcno1 March 8, 2015 1:42 PM GMT
What can faugheen do,it's time in the Neptune was 21 seconds faster than the new one,has smashed blue heron who hammered Irving next time out,it had ruby patting its back for the last furlong when hammering everything at punchestown !
Report ETID March 8, 2015 1:46 PM GMT
You get complacent then you will get caught out. He will be up against horses that have done it before on the biggest stage. Timings mean **** all up that hill mate. Heard it and seen it so many times before
Report Ibrahima Sonko March 8, 2015 1:46 PM GMT
unreal, they raced on totally different ground.
Report .Fidway. March 8, 2015 1:47 PM GMT
The New One has beaten supposed monster Pont Alexandre,former Champion hurdle winner Rock On Ruby , Zarkandar, My Tent Or Yoursand dual champion Hurricane Fly .

Faugheen has beaten Purple Bay, Blue Fashion, Valseur Lido, Ballyalton and The Job Is Right.
Report geoff m March 8, 2015 1:51 PM GMT
Fidway you forgot Chute Hall or you could categorise em all with another Hall. SWEET F.A
Report geoff m March 8, 2015 1:52 PM GMT
cufcno1. If your looking @ times hes taking on the fastest champion hurdler of the last 20 years in Jezki.
Report .Fidway. March 8, 2015 1:55 PM GMT
Geoff, like just about everyone on here knows, Faugheen could easily win the Champion Hurdle but when you get fools like Chapman saying he is a cert it is beyond belief. I noticed how later on the Sunday forum he said how he thought Briar Hill was a cert last year, wonder if was as big a cert as Faugheen is for this week.
Report cufcno1 March 8, 2015 1:56 PM GMT
Rock on ruby was never going to beat it,zarkandar is an absolute monkey,it's beat hurricane fly who never ran it's race last year,Pont Alexandre done 3 laps of Cheltenham on the morning,we will see on Tuesday,someone agrees though,its 5-4 fav
Report .Fidway. March 8, 2015 1:59 PM GMT
Good Luck , may the best horse win. Just hope here is no unlucky horse like last year and more importantly no Our Conor moment,
Report cufcno1 March 8, 2015 2:06 PM GMT
Fair enough fidway,just think last year's form don't stack up to much,mtoy stuffed at ayr,tno scraping home at Aintree,and articfire who was 2nd in the county running right beside hurricane fly and jezki,btw,jezki paid for my week last year,can't see it getting within 2 lengths of faugheen !
Report Barton Bank March 8, 2015 2:12 PM GMT
I think Faugheen is the best we have seen in a long time. More than happy with 5/4 about him proving a cut above those who ran in this race last year.
Report bannahan March 8, 2015 2:13 PM GMT
For some reason i have never taken to Jezki.....Confused
Report Barton Bank March 8, 2015 2:15 PM GMT
I think he's very good and I do think he will reverse the form against Hurricane Fly on Tuesday. That said, I think you make a case for saying that both the second and the third in last year's race might have been him in other circumstances. He has never produced a breathtakingly impressive display whereas Faugheen has on several occasions.
Report koikeeper March 8, 2015 2:24 PM GMT
ETID 08 Mar 15 13:36
Istabraq smashed the field repeatedly at Cheltenham pal. That is good enough for me. Until I see another do that then I will remain cynical.


See you then did it 3 years in a row in the champion hurdle... without a  run in between if I remember correctly
Report gerard March 8, 2015 2:27 PM GMT
You don't imo...Wink
Report ETID March 8, 2015 3:11 PM GMT
I am comparing to faugheen koikeeper, as must be obvious !
Report cardifffc March 8, 2015 3:15 PM GMT
he could easily win but on what he has done so far evens is an awful price
Report alleged22 March 8, 2015 3:18 PM GMT
the Neptune was 21 seconds faster than the new one


oh dear Blush


last year a new timing system was employed resulting in all times being quicker Wink
Report alleged22 March 8, 2015 3:20 PM GMT
so all those stayers faugheen beat last year ran 20 secs faster than TNO Laugh
Report aberdonia March 8, 2015 4:59 PM GMT
See You Then did have one run before his last CH.

Istabraq was beating rubbish in his 3 wins, hardly a vintage era bar him.
Report TheCollector March 8, 2015 5:02 PM GMT
Faugheen will piss up on Tuesday.
Report aberdonia March 8, 2015 5:06 PM GMT
Indeed he will.
Report TheCollector March 8, 2015 5:07 PM GMT
Very easy to see that Chapman was just winding up those two this morning.

When looking at bankers I'd 100% rather back Faugheen than Un De Sceaux.
Report MJK March 8, 2015 5:40 PM GMT
Chapman in the paper yesterday saying how he was praying Faugheen would win seeing as he's 'stuck his neck out' regarding the horse. Ffs you'd swear it was a 20/1 shot.
Report broadsword March 8, 2015 5:55 PM GMT
i remember chapman coming out with the comment..."well he wont be winning a golp cup" after a certain horse had been well beaten in ireland in december





























































a few weeks later war of attrition proved him WRONG Happy
Report Try My Best March 8, 2015 6:32 PM GMT
refreshing for somebody to come out and put his opinion on the line. Can't see why he should be called pathetic for airing his opinion.
Report ETID March 8, 2015 6:42 PM GMT
He has put nothing on the line, unlike ruby who has staked his reputation on this really. Chapman just jumping on the bandwagon with faugheen, it is hardly a groundbreaking opinion.
Report Try My Best March 8, 2015 6:49 PM GMT
so why are you knocking him. Pretty childish imo
Report MJK March 8, 2015 6:54 PM GMT

Mar 8, 2015 -- 7:49PM, Try My Best wrote:


so why are you knocking him. Pretty childish imo


Because as I've said in an earlier post knowing Chapman he'll actually believe the horse winning will be partly due to him. He'll actually believe that.

Report cardifffc March 8, 2015 6:56 PM GMT
no one knows how good faugheen is..........its a pure guess.........he has to improve on what he has done so far but thats not impossible ......is he an evens shot ...probably not.......can he win...yes........but betting horses with question marks like him will put you in the work house long term.....personally i am not betting in the race but i am doing a placepot.......i will probably put jezki and the new one.........think i will be very unlucky not to get a place
Report ETID March 8, 2015 7:00 PM GMT
Chapman believes he is treated seriously, when he is a clown. And if faugheen loses he will do his usual when one of his big hurdle naps doesn't come in..suggest to the owner that it should go chasing. He does that everytime without fail.
Report bankit March 8, 2015 7:06 PM GMT
Comparing a 3 time champion hurdler to faugheen is an absolute joke, even if he wins on Tuesday you still can't compare them.... Mabye one day he will achieve or even out-do what istabraq done, but we're not even remotely close at the moment.....
Report Try My Best March 8, 2015 7:07 PM GMT
He just thinks it will hose up. I have no problem with him making that statement as a lot of people will concur. Why don't we just all post who we think will win the race and then we can see who's judgement has proven correct
Report cufcno1 March 8, 2015 7:10 PM GMT
Alleged,we ain't gonna fall out again are we lol,fair enough maybe the time thing was a stupid comment by myself but faugheen has beat good horses out of site,do you think jezki or the new one would do that to blue her on,or do that to the field faugheen beat at punchestown,cos I don't,all the bookies must be wrong and all the people on the exchanges must be wrong aswell.
Report cardifffc March 8, 2015 7:10 PM GMT
try my best........when they told him betting is all about prices he looked at them if they both had 2 heads.......think that sums the guy up
Report Try My Best March 8, 2015 7:14 PM GMT
A 5/4 winner is a 5/4 winner. If he thinks it will hose up then in his opinion it's outstanding value. Others may disagree and are not forced to back it.
Report dyso6000 March 8, 2015 7:16 PM GMT
Faugheen will win the champion hurdle. Simple as that. I believe he is an exceptional talent and i know a good horse when i see one. Its very rear that get carried away with a horse until its beat Grade A opposition but i'll take that chance with Faugheen.
Report ETID March 8, 2015 7:23 PM GMT
Try my best, I think you miss the point. It is not his opinion, it is the fact he is a complete and utter egotistical James hunt which is the principal objection
Report cardifffc March 8, 2015 7:25 PM GMT
try my best.......if you think 5\4 is a good price then thats fair enough..........myself i think he is a 2\1 shot but its all about opinion
Report Try My Best March 8, 2015 7:26 PM GMT
Would rather watch him than the dire bunch that occupy our screens on channel 4. By the way what do you think will win the champion?
Report Try My Best March 8, 2015 7:27 PM GMT
I didn't say if I thought 5/4 was good or bad price Cardiff
Report cardifffc March 8, 2015 7:29 PM GMT
if youve backed it at 5\4 i presume youre happy with that price??
Report cardifffc March 8, 2015 7:30 PM GMT
try my best.......wouldnt surprise me if it won by 5l or finished 4th
Report Try My Best March 8, 2015 7:33 PM GMT
Have not played in the race cardiff.
Report cardifffc March 8, 2015 7:33 PM GMT
try my best........i suspect youve backed or are going to back UDS??
Report ETID March 8, 2015 7:35 PM GMT
I like jezki, I think he will have some pace to run at
Report cardifffc March 8, 2015 7:37 PM GMT
try my best....... i am only doing the placepot as reguards this race so i hope he is out of the frame..........probably wont happen...i do think there is a possible lack of pace in this race.........apart from the fav i dont see a pace angle.........cant see kitten rock making the running so ruby could get a freebie out in front
Report Try My Best March 8, 2015 7:39 PM GMT
No bet in the Arkle either. I would like to know what people think will win the champion who have posted on this thread.
Report Try My Best March 8, 2015 7:40 PM GMT
Well done ETID and Cardiff for posting their opinion
Report MJK March 8, 2015 7:41 PM GMT
I backed Faugheen at 9/2 months ago. I wouldn't be backing it at current odds though. Jezki looks without doubt the safe ew bet.
Report cardifffc March 8, 2015 7:42 PM GMT
ive given mine.......i have said that i am doing jezki and the new one in a placepot.........no bet in the race
Report Try My Best March 8, 2015 7:43 PM GMT
keep the selections coming boys and girls. Look forward to the post race comments on here.
Report ETID March 8, 2015 7:43 PM GMT
Difference is others in expressing their opinions are endeavouring to show some respect to the other runners and to the track, unlike tango **** who seems to think ruby will already have his feet up while the others are clearing the last. It just won't happen that way.
Report cardifffc March 8, 2015 7:45 PM GMT
think you would be stupid to say faugheen cant win but its just as stupid to say hes past the post
Report EastLower Gooner March 8, 2015 8:47 PM GMT
anyone remember when he got down on his knees and begged Ruby to ride Faugheen and then ruby kicked him.....

to be fair to him today he was discussing the Champion with two people who were pretty easy to wind up.
Report throwthetellyoutawindow March 8, 2015 9:13 PM GMT
Faugheen leading by 2 from  TNO approaching the last fine jump at the last and steadily draws away to win by 5 from TNO and Vaniteux staying on at the one pace 3 rd. There u have it. 1-2-3.
Report cardifffc March 8, 2015 9:13 PM GMT
he is an idiot but is good fun
Report Steamship March 8, 2015 10:21 PM GMT
Just watching the forum now and Chapman is winding them up. What I will say about Chapman is that he seems the only one on horseracing who shows his passion whether he be right or wrong and so much better than most.
Report cardifffc March 8, 2015 10:23 PM GMT
hes mostly wrong
Report themightymac March 8, 2015 11:52 PM GMT
He`s a bit like the Heavyweight boxer stirring things up before the event and creating more interest, opinions and arguments on the race, as this thread proves. LaughLaughLaugh

Love him or hate him, he is a character and Racing needs more publicists (or bawheids) like him to make the sport more exciting.
Report Angel Gabrial March 9, 2015 12:17 AM GMT
There is only one horse likely to improve his rating in the Champion Hurdle and that is Faugheen. He only has 7 hurdle races under his saddle and he is rated 168 on OR and 182p by Timeform.

Is there anything in the Champion Hurdle that will halt the progression?  or are you doubters expecting one of the more established horses to improve again after seemingly hitting their peak/ perhaps even on the decline already?

The ratings seem tight with top 4 but which one seems more probable to improve it`s mark?
Report bannahan March 9, 2015 12:22 AM GMT
Hit a hurdle.....


Get blocked in.....


Starter makes a hash of it.....


Be given a poor ride.....


At the odds available i would rather watch
Report Eeternaloptimist March 9, 2015 1:08 AM GMT
If we're sticking our necks on the line barring him jumping like a drain I think it will be Faugheen, Jezki, The New One in that order.
Report Angel Gabrial March 9, 2015 1:09 AM GMT
I agree with you Bannahan, the horse is unlikely to get beat.Wink
Report Angel Gabrial March 9, 2015 1:09 AM GMT
I agree with you Bannahan, the horse is unlikely to get beat.Wink
Report Shiekh Me Hand March 9, 2015 2:52 AM GMT
All about opinions.

Myself, am very happy with my Jezki to be placed in the 3 at 1.94 rather than Faugheen to win at 2.2

Faugheen may very well win, I simply cannot envisage a scenario where Jezki is not in the first 3.

Good luck all, let's just hope they all come back safe and with a clean trip for no excuses.
Report timmy1 March 9, 2015 8:50 AM GMT
Believe the ground will decide:
The New One - seems to go on ground but makes too many mistakes.
Hurricane Fly - sadly ground gone against him.
Faugheen - won on good at Cheltenham last year but mainly likes soft.
Jetzki - loves this ground.
On the above and value bet it has to be Jetzki.
Report EVILROYSLADE March 9, 2015 8:52 AM GMT
Win on the bridle. A monster.
Report drlovepants March 9, 2015 9:16 AM GMT
Sorry Royston buts its The New One for me, the sight of him murdering the hill last year is still fresh in the memory, and I dont think he has regressed since then.
The only horse that I believe MIGHT finish in front of him is the jolly, but he will have to be every bit as good as they say he is, and at 5/4 I wouldnt be lumping on.
Opinions eh? Grin
Report Angel Gabrial March 9, 2015 9:18 AM GMT
Faugheen - won on good at Cheltenham last year but mainly likes soft.

Are you talking about the right horse here???? look at his runs.

2 x good
2 x good/yielding
2 x yielding
1 x good/soft
1 x soft
1 x heavy
Report Angel Gabrial March 9, 2015 9:19 AM GMT
for Timmy^^^
Report saltmountain March 9, 2015 10:57 AM GMT
I'm a believer
make a stand all over again, wont see another horse
Report deadbrain59 March 9, 2015 12:49 PM GMT
hurricane unplaced only once,ew big price?Mischief
Report Angel Gabrial March 9, 2015 1:10 PM GMT
Saltmountain

Make A Stand was probably the most fluent hurdler you will ever see but he won in a very weak CH era, this is a stronger era and Faugheen must be a stone above Make A Stand but i see the similarity in stretching the field from out in front.
Report Try My Best March 10, 2015 3:29 PM GMT
great performance Faugheen.
Report themightymac March 10, 2015 3:31 PM GMT
Matt called it Laugh
Report TheCollector March 10, 2015 3:31 PM GMT
Chapman laughin his arse off now
Report MJK March 10, 2015 3:35 PM GMT
I backed Faugheen at 11/2, 5/1, and 9/2. Doesn't mean I'm s genius or should take any credit for it winning. Chapman will though.
Report Try My Best March 10, 2015 3:39 PM GMT
Jesus christ. Just be happy that you have backed the winner at big prices. He said it would win and it has. A lot on here crabbing times and making case for Jezki and the others. If it had lost you would have been all over him like a rash
Report geoff m March 10, 2015 3:40 PM GMT
Was totally justifiedLaugh
Report ETID March 10, 2015 3:41 PM GMT
So what, the tango faced **** napped up an odds on shot and managed to disrespect all the other horses in doing so, as well as humiliating himself by kissing ruby 's shoes.
Report Try My Best March 10, 2015 3:44 PM GMT
He was right, end of
Report cufcno1 March 11, 2015 6:32 AM GMT
So has faugheen beat anything now,or has it still "beat nowt",this horse can be as good as istabraq,at least Chapman does stick his neck out,I know he is a bit of a prat but half of it is taking the Piss,yeeeaaaha
Report Angel Gabrial March 11, 2015 8:23 AM GMT
ETID is a very bitter man
Report drlovepants March 11, 2015 9:25 AM GMT
Agreed, some people on here truly incapable of not being negative.
Report cufcno1 March 15, 2015 9:34 PM GMT
I want to know where all the dickheads are that said faugheen wouldn't win and it had beat nowt,where they gone ?
Report cufcno1 March 15, 2015 9:34 PM GMT
I want to know where all the dickheads are that said faugheen wouldn't win and it had beat nowt,where they gone ?
Report rewired March 16, 2015 1:12 AM GMT
faugheen for me on day too short-some stats were against it
so at the price even though i did fancy it there  was no play for me
well done anyone on a price.....
but take faugheen out some of the others were so poor in my opinion
the new one not to even place was certainly a shock to me,but  being so prominent early in race dont think helped
just maybe the new one is just not that good......
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