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barry dennis
11 Feb 15 21:50
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Chelmsford bookmakers reduced from 16 to 4 through lack of business
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Report paulie wallnuts February 11, 2015 9:53 PM GMT
Not enough drunks there so obviously.....
Report bookie1961 February 11, 2015 9:54 PM GMT
Hope not ..... just booked my tickets for tomorrow night
Report Barton Bank February 11, 2015 11:23 PM GMT
What a state the sport is in.
Report dukeofpuke February 11, 2015 11:43 PM GMT
great chance then to go tote only
Report cosmik debris February 12, 2015 12:09 AM GMT
Apparently a similar story with Towcester dogs. Both in the middle of nowhere with no chance of getting there by car and both offering poor viewing for spectators.
Report cosmik debris February 12, 2015 12:09 AM GMT
"other than by car" I meant
Report roida February 12, 2015 12:47 AM GMT
no such thing now as 'bookmakers'...commission agents
Report rg February 12, 2015 5:21 AM GMT
Went last thursday,had good afternoon. As it is owned by betfred surely they are not too bothered with lack of bookmakers. There are betfred betting outlets everywhere so just bet with them. I had a few bets with the bookies outside but they only gave the same prices as the bookies anyway.
Report Ramruma February 12, 2015 6:26 AM GMT
SP returners won't be using much shoe leather.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD February 12, 2015 6:30 AM GMT
DONT MENTION THE SPShocked
Report flash bookie February 12, 2015 7:31 AM GMT
not quite true; there were only ever 8 books on the list with a reserve list of 8 .this does not add up to 16 books.for a trial period (I believe to be until end of march only}there will be 4 books in attendance on a rota basis with the reserve list not being used for the trial period .I can confirm business has been light however it is certainly no worse than anywhere else midweek for the time of yr.also the attendances have been pretty good 1500/2000 most meetings thus far.the majority of the public it is true have been keeping inside the grandstand and not venturing outside to bet with the books.mind you can hardly blame them this past 3/4 wks  its been that f****** cold a polar bear was seen in the carpark last wk !!
Report dambuster February 12, 2015 7:46 AM GMT
That wasn't a polar bear, that was Stephen Little in his coat.!
Report barry dennis February 12, 2015 7:48 AM GMT
Flash depends how you interpret situation, last week they could call on 16 bookmakers this week decide they only want 4,  not sure about poor this time of year, Kempton/Lingfield turnover Ok
Report dambuster February 12, 2015 7:49 AM GMT
You need well known bookies to liven the place up, and lay a bet, they help Bring in the customers, Barry  dennis, Starsports, and Gary Wiltshire, people love the banter as well....but then again, Baldie the welcher isn't a bookmaker
Report flash bookie February 12, 2015 8:08 AM GMT
barry; how many books attending midwk lingfield/Kempton was told 2 in tatts midwk lingfield Kempton none .and poss 4/5 on the rails.generaly speaking thebooks I talk to say business is pretty dire everywhere at the mo and not great on sats either anyway I think its fair to say everywhere improves I believe from the craven meeting onwards
Report GAZO February 12, 2015 8:10 AM GMT
get corals on course,haven't they recently claimed they will take bigger betsLaugh,they will liven the ring up
Report Breedingmad February 12, 2015 8:11 AM GMT
AW racing in the UK was not created by public demand but by some
other forces.
Report barry dennis February 12, 2015 8:21 AM GMT
Flash, if the 4 are lads,w hill betfred plus 1 is that healthy for SP
Report flash bookie February 12, 2015 8:33 AM GMT
rota does not allow there to be more than "2 highstreet firms" in attendance at any meeting for the trial period . anyway as I see it it is still very much a learning curve for the management and all concerned and though it may be quietish for the foreseeable and maybe for the first 12/18 mnths I believe longterm it will be a success.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD February 12, 2015 5:49 PM GMT
Good luck flash at least you will lay to your opinion and that is like a breath of fresh air.
Report factmachine February 12, 2015 7:12 PM GMT
MAYBEE JUST LIKE PLUMPTON THE BOOKMAKERS AND THE BETTING RING MANAGER AT CHELMSFORD HAVE (AND IM NOT MAKING THIS UP)"IN AN EFFORT TO IMPROVE THE EXPERIENCE OF THE BETTING RING FOR BOTH BOOKMAKERS AND CUSTOMERS,THE NUMBER OF BOOKMAKERS THAT OPERATE IN THE TATTS RING HAVE BEEN REDUCED" YOU REALLY COULDNT MAKE IT UPLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh LADS,HILLS,BETFRED,IF THEY WERE HORSES THEY WOULDNT BE ALLOWED TO RUN UNDER THE NON TRIERS RULE!
Report bookie1961 February 12, 2015 10:35 PM GMT
Just got home from my chelmsford experience and there was only 4 bookmakers in attendance and id say 400 paying punters
The most surprising thing was the bookmakers all 4 of them were moved inside which seemed quite strange as to me it detracted from the outside atmosphere ..... Seemed very light buisness being done and a previous post was right betfred shops everywhere ...... will i go again .. yes but think if they decreased the admission price more locals would attend more often .... also not the tracks fault the lack of runners is a concern
Report GLASGOWCALLING February 12, 2015 10:40 PM GMT
indoor bookmakers..ffs,   what are going to do when it gets cold...HappyHappy
Report GLASGOWCALLING February 12, 2015 10:41 PM GMT
* they
Report mmmalushka February 13, 2015 8:58 AM GMT
Official attendance figures from  Sunday 1st Feb
chelmsford  2442 and 8 Bookies
Musselburgh 2653 and 28 Bookies.
Looks to me as though there is a severe shortage of choice for the Chelmsford punters!
Report Breedingmad February 13, 2015 9:02 AM GMT
e SEXLaugh
Report mmmalushka February 13, 2015 9:02 AM GMT
And while I'm here does anyone know if they offer  fast picture thieving facilities?
Report Breedingmad February 13, 2015 9:09 AM GMT
nICK MY PICS FEEL FREEExcited
Report ghostlygunner February 13, 2015 10:06 AM GMT
was there last night , had to chuckle at the indoor bookies , never seen anything like it Excited 

i think this place is a potential goldmine but they are making mistakes

no way of getting there unless you drive  , you can't even reach it by public transport  , they need to put on shuttles from braintree and/or chelmsford stations , even a cab from chelmsford station would be at least £15 , meaning £32 before you start and thats just from chelmsford

also £17 on the gate and £22 for the other sunday is too high for what is average racing with a less than average view  , i get the feeling they think the product they are offering is better than it is , heard comments about premier track in country by end of year , this is cloud cuckoo land . for example the choice of food last night was a hot dog  (£5 with no onions option Cry ) or pay £41 plus for the restaurant . it will do well in summer I'm sure, there are a lot of punters in essex but they need to be realistic here and get the place full first which may need a loss leading strategy first to get the name and reputation up and running ,rather than being greedy from the outset (in my humble opinion)
Report Breedingmad February 13, 2015 10:09 AM GMT
I went to Perth a few years back and they know how to do it get rid of the class divide
on courses put simplyExcited
Report nobbybarnesranoverthewrongtrip February 13, 2015 10:30 AM GMT
28 books or 8 books, they all go the same price anyway!
Report bookie1961 February 13, 2015 11:21 AM GMT
ghostlygunner ...... totally agree with your thoughts ... the food options for "joe public" is nothing short of scandalous and the travel links are impossible unless you drive .... what i find hard to digest is that the amount of staff /security was unbelievable loads of them ... maybe reduce them and let the paying customer have a bit more value for money ..... i have emailed the course with my complaints ... i await a reply
Report Normanston Rangers February 13, 2015 11:21 AM GMT
Come on Chelmsford the worst track in the country for providing food. Unless you sit down for a meal one tiny food outlet selling a hot dog and pork. Nothing else. Need to provide more food outlets for the average punter. Chelmsford just visit other tracks and see what is on offer.
Report ghostlygunner February 13, 2015 11:58 AM GMT
bookie 1961  ... i actually went for a position over there as I'm local,which i didn't get ( due to having no experience working at a racecourse which is fair enough, though I've been following racing for 35 years and have been to nearly 40 tracks as a punter)  , probably as i suggested some of the ideas above Grin which didn't tie in with their instant profit ideal.
i was almost certain it would be a big success but I'm a bit less convinced after a few visits, there is potential for a 1.01 to get beat here if they take their eye off the ball Plain
Report bookie1961 February 13, 2015 12:06 PM GMT
agree ... seems to favour horses from the front ... im going again next week see if my opinion changes
Report liberator of the oppressed February 13, 2015 12:15 PM GMT
Racing is dross and looks on a par with Southwell but better than Kempton (cannot imagine why anybody would bet there). All mickey mouse - esque. Surface looks like Somme on a better day. Come racing.
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